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Not surprising!! It's a new engine

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[themcmercslr]

Not surprising!! It's a new engine

Been in the wagoneer for 2 years now I think? Gen 1 3.5 EcoBoost earned its reputation but its major issues didn't crop up until you put what is 3 years of driving for most of us (chain stretch, snapped manifold studs, phasers). At least it worked until you renewed the registration for the first time

The Toyota TTV6 was a few years old before it was adapted to the trucks, too, and look how its doing...

 

[HammaMan]

Careful @HammaMan , you may scare all of us into mounting squirt guns to mist our radiators, re-routing our cats, or just plain putting fans to the trans somewhere underneath. I cannot think of any other ways to cool the 10r80 on a PB. Maybe I'll ask ShatGPT, Geminode, or Co-Plot next.

If I had an issue w/ trans heat I'd already have a solution. Rad misting really is as simple as it gets, it's just not the most elegant solution / hands free and it'd need to be winterized even if it's a simple task. The benefit of that is 2 fold as it gives the AC loop much higher efficiency in cooling the battery as well. Not only are RV owners accounting of efficacy promising, but the math checks out.

Larger rad is another solution by just having more cooling capacity. Not fond of the valve size that allows water back to the trans's plate heat exchanger as water pump speed becomes another factor in total flow, which also becomes a factor in cooling capacity and the water/heat plate interaction efficiency. A raptoresque trans oil to air cooler kit from ford performance would be a great parts kit as it should be a $599 price point or so as well as removing the trans heat from the engine's water loop. Temp controlled aux water pump may be worth a little bit.

Been in the wagoneer for 2 years now I think? Gen 1 3.5 EcoBoost earned its reputation but its major issues didn't crop up until you put what is 3 years of driving for most of us (chain stretch, snapped manifold studs, phasers). At least it worked until you renewed the registration for the first time

The Toyota TTV6 was a few years old before it was adapted to the trucks, too, and look how its doing...

Yeah, but the sampling size is still very small. Always wise to keep things into perspective. Glock was a bit of a 4 letter word in guns when reloaders were reporting blowing them up became on the internet. What people failed to factor in was that a whole lot more people owned them and there was nothing special about them in that regard. Sampling size matters. There's over 5mil 3.5 ecoboosts in circulation, I believe it's north of 7 million so far. W/ the motor being in limited trims of the wagoneer, and their sales being quite small as well as the motor being detuned, there's maybe 40k of them on the market including new rams?

For a fair comparison, today at least, for every 1,000 complaints on the 3.5L, anything over 5.7 complaints on the hurricane motor is in excess. Ford has already sold more 3rd gen 3.5 EB motors in the last ~3 years than stellantis will sell of the hurricanes in the next 10 (in addition to the last 2 years of sales).

 

[fmdog44]

Cmon Ram. We need them to put pressure on Ford.

Want more pressure on Ford see the 2025 El Camino.

 

[Cooter]

This looks like FUN!!

 

[Samson16]

Want more pressure on Ford see the 2025 El Camino.

It doesn’t look like a car chassis. Not an El Camino

 

[HammaMan]

This looks like FUN!!

No way they put that tiny door into a production model. What's it got, maybe 12" of usable area back there?

 

[wessermgm]

No way they put that tiny door into a production model. What's it got, maybe 12" of usable area back there?

Enough to list as a 4 seater for insurance purposes.

 

[fmdog44]

It doesn’t look like a car chassis. Not an El Camino

It come with two doors or four. Why four is beyond me, maybe for groceries or something similar. I'm keeping my F150 XL til death us do part but I want this Camino and I am going to have it..

 

[Samson16]

Yes it is an El Camino that's why Chevrolet calls it an El Camino

El Avalancho

 

[fmdog44]

Enough to list as a 4 seater for insurance purposes.

good point.

 

[Samson16]

Mira

 

[Samson16]

@fmdog44 I was just having a bit of fun. One rumor is it that it will be based on a Traverse chassis with a V8 and AWD. I hope they do it justice.

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