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@SilverPigeon and @fordtruckman2003 - THANK YOU! VERY informative! I'm going to copy your answers and add them to my FDRS prep folder that I've got going. The bad news is that more than likely, I'll have more questions still to come.

I'm going to follow up on some of the answers:



I will fully admit that I'm an ignoramus on this stuff, but even I know that the ignition button is the same as the ignition key. ? What I was trying to get at - and still don't quite understand - is the actual physical movement to achieve the instructions: "turn off the ignition then open the door." I don't understand how that can be done unless you are sitting in the driver's seat throughout that stage of the process. What I mean is, if my truck had a physical key ignition on the steering column, I could reach through the open driver's window and turn off the ignition, then open the door - as instructed. But with a push-button ignition, there is no way I can reach through an open window and reach that button, meaning I have to open the door first to reach the ignition button. So, what has just dawned on me - and I apparently missed this in the answers provided - is that I was coming from the perspective of being outside the truck during this and trying to reach in. It is just now dawning on me that at the particular stage where the ignition switch is off/on and the door is open/closed is a stage where you are already sitting in the driver's seat to interact with FDRS. Correct?



Sync version 23291, revision 1049. I don't know for sure, but I don't think my version is one that is "stuck" because I just got an OTA day before yesterday (although it appeared to be a repeat OTA). I have mentioned in a different thread that I do seem to get updates - but not all of them, based on @rugedraw 's sheet (and maybe I'm not supposed to get ALL of them). I don't really have a complaint regarding the OTA process - the purpose in going through the FDRS exercise is to get the latest IPMA update so that I can make one last desired change in FORScan.
Sorry, to be clear you don't need to stay in seat and you can walk away with fob during updates.

USB updates, and only USB updates, I sit in the driver seat. Those go by quickly and the truck is "on" the whole time.

Other updates the truck is in update mode and everything shuts down so I walk away with my fob and do other things. Several people use remote desktop software to monitor update status to see when it's done. I used chrome for that last time and it was helpful.
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Another thing that often doesn't get mentioned is the USB updates say to start the truck. Not good when your in the basement.
So, you just turn the ignition on, and don't start the engine? And that's okay; that works?

I have seen posted in several places the importance of when the ignition is ON, all other truck electrical loads need to be turned OFF. So, how do you manage to get away with leaving the door open?
 

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Sorry, to be clear you don't need to stay in seat and you can walk away with fob during updates.

USB updates, and only USB updates, I sit in the driver seat. Those go by quickly and the truck is "on" the whole time.

Other updates the truck is in update mode and everything shuts down so I walk away with my fob and do other things. Several people use remote desktop software to monitor update status to see when it's done. I used chrome for that last time and it was helpful.
Aha! I think you may have broken through! NOW I think I'm grasping the different scenarios and how it dictates what you do when and why. Thank you for that explanation! (I think I really needed that... :))
 

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So, you just turn the ignition on, and don't start the engine? And that's okay; that works?

I have seen posted in several places the importance of when the ignition is ON, all other truck electrical loads need to be turned OFF. So, how do you manage to get away with leaving the door open?
You never need to start truck for USB updates. Accessory mode is all that is needed and waiting for the update to show up on screen. This is part of why I sit in truck because it isn't like the laptop updates. Don't know the USB is working until the message shows up on screen.

Given your status with updates I don't think you'll see USB updates except maybe the most recent APIM update that some have installed OTA.

Your IPMA update that you want I'm sure you already know is around 3 hours to complete. Watch football or something in house while it does the job. :)
 

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You never need to start truck for USB updates. Accessory mode is all that is needed and waiting for the update to show up on screen. This is part of why I sit in truck because it isn't like the laptop updates. Don't know the USB is working until the message shows up on screen.

Given your status with updates I don't think you'll see USB updates except maybe the most recent APIM update that some have installed OTA.

Your IPMA update that you want I'm sure you already know is around 3 hours to complete. Watch football or something in house while it does the job. :)
Great information!!!!

Slowly, I'm starting to feel a little more confident about tackling this thing!
 

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You never need to start truck for USB updates. Accessory mode is all that is needed and waiting for the update to show up on screen. This is part of why I sit in truck because it isn't like the laptop updates. Don't know the USB is working until the message shows up on screen.

Given your status with updates I don't think you'll see USB updates except maybe the most recent APIM update that some have installed OTA.

Your IPMA update that you want I'm sure you already know is around 3 hours to complete. Watch football or something in house while it does the job. :)
Several of the updates I had done in the past had a message in FDRS to start the engine and leave it running and then shut it off after the install completed and open the door for a time it specified to complete the process.
 
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You never need to start truck for USB updates. Accessory mode is all that is needed and waiting for the update to show up on screen. This is part of why I sit in truck because it isn't like the laptop updates. Don't know the USB is working until the message shows up on screen.

Given your status with updates I don't think you'll see USB updates except maybe the most recent APIM update that some have installed OTA.

Your IPMA update that you want I'm sure you already know is around 3 hours to complete. Watch football or something in house while it does the job. :)
That's not what the instructions in FDRS state so I follow the directions and start the truck, engine running.
 

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Yes, that is what it says, but it isn't necessary.
Figured that out when I had about 10 USB updates to do over a weekend. When using a power supply the battery won't drain doing the updates.

You can start the truck though if you want.
 

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Yes, that is what it says, but it isn't necessary.
Figured that out when I had about 10 USB updates to do over a weekend. When using a power supply the battery won't drain doing the updates.

You can start the truck though if you want.
Depending on the weather and how hot it is, I run the truck for the a/c or I'll leave it off on the charger. For the sake of someone doing this for the first time, I would just recommend they follow whatever FDRS says.
 

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Hey guys.....trying to help a member on here figure out an issue. To anyone that has a fully updated 21-23 XLT 302a with co-pilot assist 2.0: Can you please message your VIN so I can pull the a/b data from the PSCM and SCCM and see if I see anything that can help this guy out? Thanks.

Edit: Got one.
 
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Hey guys.....trying to help a member on here figure out an issue. To anyone that has a fully updated 21-23 XLT 302a with co-pilot assist 2.0: Can you please message your VIN so I can pull the a/b data from the PSCM and SCCM and see if I see anything that can help this guy out? Thanks.
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co-pilot assist 2.0...if that is without lane centering....then use mine. I only have lane keeping.
 

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co-pilot assist 2.0...if that is without lane centering....then use mine. I only have lane keeping.
Assist 2.0 = self steering. Active 2.0 = blue cruise. Neither = XL style
 

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MPP1234 said:
@rugedraw - interesting thing, started the car yesterday evening and the unreal theme is gone. I double checked APIM changes I made and all are in line with livn's sheet. No new cameras at speed and now unreal theme and climate bar dont show on bottom of screen.

I cleared the PCM DTC and ran the configuration from the TSB and errors are cleared. Thank you!

One new issues has presented, hoping someone might have suggestion. Running boards make loud whinning (running motor) noise for 3-4 seconds after running boards have been deployed. I ran the self test, no issues and didnt make the noise. Seems like module needs to relearn where down is. Thoughts?

My running boards started doing that also after one of the last updates.

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I ran a DSM self test with forscan and my running boards are back to normal. Not sure if it matters but doors were closed and running boards retracted.

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