Connected Navigation and SiriusXM force removal

[hotrodmex]

and some say it’s a chip that will be provided later though a simple chip will not likely restore the Screen appearances.

The notice sent out by Ford specifically said this could not be retrofitted. I don't know where some people come up with this stuff.

PRODUCT OFFERING CHANGES
2022MY F-150 Connected Navigation and SiriusXM with 360L, Connected Built-In Navigation

ACTION REQUESTED

• Dealers should communicate with retail and fleet customers regarding Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L changes required to their orders. Following this communication, dealers should add Option Code 50X (Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal) where applicable on unscheduled retail and fleet orders by May 26th, 2022. Orders that are not updated by May 26th, 2022 regardless of status (scheduled or unscheduled) will be amended by Ford on May 27th, 2022. Dealers will be able to start making the required amendments on Tuesday May 24th.
• Most stock orders of 100A-501A trims with Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to include Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal (50X) on May 23rd, 2022.
• Dealers should communicate with retail and fleet customers regarding Connected Built-In Navigation changes required to their orders. Following this communication, dealers should remove Option Code(s) 50N, 43B, and/or 43C (Connected Built-In Navigation, Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, and/or Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0) from F-150 retail & fleet unscheduled 100A-501A orders (excluding Gov’t) by May 26th, 2022. Orders that are not updated by May 26th, 2022, regardless of status (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to remove these options on May 27th, 2022. Dealers will be able to start making the required amendments on Tuesday May 24th.
• Most stock orders of 100A-501A trims with optional Connected Built-In Navigation, Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, and/or Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0 (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to remove these options on May 23rd, 2022.
• Customers taking delivery of 22MY F-150 vehicles including Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal must sign the attached Acknowledgement Form to acknowledge their understanding that the vehicle is not equipped with the feature(s) identified and they will not be charged for the feature(s). A copy of the signed Acknowledgment Form must be included in the deal jacket.
• Customers taking delivery of 22MY F-150 vehicles that have been amended to remove the optional Connected Built-In Navigation must sign the attached Acknowledgement Form to acknowledge their understanding that the vehicle is not equipped with the feature(s) identified and they will not be charged for the feature(s). A copy of the signed Acknowledgment Form must be included in the deal jacket.
• Due to the number of potentially impacted features on a particular vehicle, the Acknowledgement Form has been updated to include a check box for each feature that could be impacted. Dealers must check the appropriate box(es) on the Acknowledgement Form prior to asking for the customer’s signature. Failure to check the proper boxes could result in an erroneous assumption by the customer that none of the customer’s features are impacted.

SUMMARY
The automotive industry continues to be confronted by supply chain shortages of a wide variety of components used to manufacture Ford vehicles. As a way for customers to get their F-150 trucks sooner, Ford has implemented the following product offering change process.

Connected Navigation and SiriusXM with 360L are no longer available on 100A-501A where optional or included. Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal is now required where applicable on these trims and will include a credit on the window sticker. Connected Built-In Navigation is no longer available where optional on 100A-501A trims.

Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal (50X)

• Connected Navigation and SiriusXM with 360L are no longer available on 100A-501A where optional or included. Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal is now required where applicable on these trims and will include a credit in the amount of $200 on the window sticker for “CNCTD NAV/SIRIUSXM REMOVAL.”
• Dealers should communicate with retail and fleet customers regarding changes required to their orders. Following this communication, dealers should add Option Code 50X (Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal) where applicable on unscheduled retail and fleet orders by May 26th, 2022. Orders that are not updated by May 26th, 2022 regardless of status (scheduled or unscheduled) will be amended by Ford on May 27th, 2022. Dealers will be able to start making the required amendments on Tuesday May 24th.
• Most stock orders of 100A-501A trims with Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to include Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal (50X) on May 23rd, 2022.

Connected Built-In Navigation

• The Connected Built-In Navigation feature is no longer available to order where optional on 100A-501A (Optional through the following packages: Connected Built-In Navigation (50N), Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0 (43B), Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0 (43C)). Unscheduled vehicle orders with the Connected Built-In Navigation will not be selected for scheduling and new orders with these options are no longer available to be placed.
• Dealers should communicate with retail and fleet customers regarding changes required to their orders. Following this communication, dealers should remove Option Code(s) 50N, 43B, and/or 43C (Connected Built-In Navigation, Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, and/or Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0) from F-150 retail & fleet unscheduled 100A-501A orders (excluding Gov’t) by May 26th, 2022. Orders that are not updated by May 26th, 2022, regardless of status (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to remove these options on May 27th, 2022. Dealers will be able to start making the required amendments on Tuesday May 24th.
• Most stock orders of 100A-501A trims with optional Connected Built-In Navigation, Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, and/or Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0 (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to remove these options on May 23rd, 2022.

FAQS
Can I upgrade my Navigation system or SiriusXM later?

• Units built without Connected Navigation, Connected Built-In Navigation, or SiriusXM cannot be upgraded later.

Do third-party navigation applications still work via Apple CarPlay and AndroidAuto?

• Yes, third-party navigation apps will still work via Apple CarPlay and AndroidAuto.

CUSTOMER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FORM
Customers taking delivery of 22MY F-150 vehicles including Connected Navigation and SiriusXM® with 360L Removal must sign the attached Acknowledgement Form to acknowledge their understanding that the vehicle is not equipped with the feature(s) identified and they will not be charged for the feature(s). A copy of the signed Acknowledgment Form must be included in the deal jacket.

Customers taking delivery of 22MY F-150 vehicles that have been amended to remove the optional Connected Built-In Navigation must sign the attached Acknowledgement Form to acknowledge their understanding that the vehicle is not equipped with the feature(s) identified and they will not be charged for the feature(s). A copy of the signed Acknowledgment Form must be included in the deal jacket.

Due to the number of potentially impacted features on a particular vehicle, the Acknowledgement Form has been updated to include a check box for each feature that could be impacted. Dealers must check the appropriate box(es) on the Acknowledgement Form prior to asking for the customer’s signature. Failure to check the proper boxes could result in an erroneous assumption by the customer that none of the customer’s features are impacted.

P.S.: They are finally fielding the real question there with the FAQ.

Based on the discussion here I can see why: it sounds like it's several modules and parts that would involve taking apart the trim from the dash to the upper cab corner.

I'll spit the hot take and ask "Why?"

Do people with less than Assist 2.0 with realize they'd have to pay for the Nav service after 90 days to get guidance to a destination? Do people with Assist 2.0 realize they'd have to pay to keep the map from going obsolete, or to get routes that take into account traffic, after 3 years?

You can download a ton of offline map data with very little storage to your phone nav of choice and be set.

This whole thread is actually making me realize I might have just wanted the $200. Could have put that towards a MagicBox or something like it and it would just act like a built in computer.

XM, well yeah, If you really want XM I guess there's no other way to integrate, as I hear the app isn't the best.

Also when you use CarPlay or android auto it stops using the phones gps and changes to the trucks signal

Oh, that's cool! I would have hoped, but you never know. Glad to have the verification.

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[Snakebitten]

For example, here is the ProPower Onboard feature differences

 

[ARegularJoe]

The notice sent out by Ford specifically said this could not be retrofitted. I don't know where some people come up with this stuff.



Based on the discussion here I can see why: it sounds like it's several modules and parts that would involve taking apart the trim from the dash to the upper cab corner.

I'll spit the hot take and ask "Why?"

Do people with less than Assist 2.0 with realize they'd have to pay for the Nav service after 90 days to get guidance to a destination? Do people with Assist 2.0 realize they'd have to pay to keep the map from going obsolete, or to get routes that take into account traffic, after 3 years?

You can download a ton of offline map data with very little storage to your phone nav of choice and be set.

This whole thread is actually making me realize I might have just wanted the $200. Could have put that towards a MagicBox or something like it and it would just act like a built in computer.

XM, well yeah, If you really want XM I guess there's no other way to integrate, as I hear the app isn't the best.



Oh, that's cool! I would have hoped, but you never know. Glad to have the verification.

If feel as though this is Ford’s way of saying we won’t restore the functionality. All of these are computers which know two states, yes and no. It’s just a matter of figuring out where the proper yesses and no’s go…. Barring any missing components that is.

 

[hotrodmex]

Barring any missing components that is.

I believe we can assume the missing hardware, given it coincides with the removal of Assist, which is not just a service.

Also, this was in response to you mentioning the "some" that think it will be provided later [by Ford], not if it was possible at all.

 

[ARegularJoe]

I believe we can assume the missing hardware, given it coincides with the removal of Assist, which is not just a service.

Also, this was in response to you mentioning the "some" that think it will be provided later [by Ford], not if it was possible at all.

I didn't loose any 'assist' features that I am aware of.

 

[hotrodmex]

I didn't loose any 'assist' features that I am aware of.

Not surprising. There are people who were explicitly inside the cutoff conditions but got no cuts of XM, Nav, or Assist. The notice from Ford I quoted says:

Dealers should communicate with retail and fleet customers regarding Connected Built-In Navigation changes required to their orders. Following this communication, dealers should remove Option Code(s) 50N, 43B, and/or 43C (Connected Built-In Navigation, Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, and/or Ford Co-Pilot360 Active 2.0) from F-150 retail & fleet unscheduled 100A-501A orders (excluding Gov’t) by May 26th, 2022. Orders that are not updated by May 26th, 2022, regardless of status (scheduled and unscheduled) will be amended by Ford to remove these options on May 27th, 2022.

They probably ran to zero on the parts they had, and whoever got lucky, got lucky.

 

[Vin]

Not surprising. There are people who were explicitly inside the cutoff conditions but got no cuts of XM, Nav, or Assist. The notice from Ford I quoted says:

They probably ran to zero on the parts they had, and whoever got lucky, got lucky.

I think so. I had a 101a that was unscheduled until late June and my truck showed up with Nav and XM. Despite my Window Sticker showing "AM/FM Radio". I feel very lucky.

 

[BMac506]

So I picked up my Lariat 500A with Sirius and Nav forced removal last week. Is there any easy way to see what I’m actually missing based on my as built information or modules? What I’m most worried about is having some kind of Frankenstein chip configuration that only mine and a few other weeks builds have that might cause problems later with OTA updates. If I’m just missing an antenna then it’s less concerning. I’m more worried that i may have update issues with a non standard chipset truck.

 

[Derektruck]

I didn't plan on using those, but $200 seems like a slap in the face. When I get rid of my truck down the road, those are two huge features that will drive down the resale value, especially to customers that use those.

Hey guys, does mean that you wont have the map function at sll? Like u cant view a freaking map on your screen? Or just the navigation function? Like u cant put in a destination and nav to it.. as long as i have a map im ok with this delete.. but if the map is gone.. im out and will be cancelling my order..

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

You loose the map in its entirety. You do retain CarPlay and Android auto. The only difference is the APIM has no maps installed.

We have been adding nav back for people BUT!!, you will not regain the connected Nav package that gives you traffic and weather. There is not anything I have found that allows that to function.

I believe the trucks with the Sync 4a (12" Screen) will still have GPS antenna where the 8" does not.

 

[dolsen]

You loose the map in its entirety. You do retain CarPlay and Android auto. The only difference is the APIM has no maps installed.

We have been adding nav back for people BUT!!, you will not regain the connected Nav package that gives you traffic and weather. There is not anything I have found that allows that to function.

I believe the trucks with the Sync 4a (12" Screen) will still have GPS antenna where the 8" does not.

Do you have a thread on how this is done? Adding Nav back in?

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Do you have a thread on how this is done? Adding Nav back in?

NO You have to replace the APIM but there is more to it than that. I cant post anything as our company offers this as a product and we include the programming with the purchase of the nav upgrade. We also can add SAT radio.

 

[dolsen]

NO You have to replace the APIM but there is more to it than that. I cant post anything as our company offers this as a product and we include the programming with the purchase of the nav upgrade. We also can add SAT radio.

Ah, fair enough, I didn't put two and two together. I know which company you work for now, I just didn't realize it when I asked the question

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Ah, fair enough, I didn't put two and two together. I know which company you work for now, I just didn't realize it when I asked the question

Yeah. I am the Ford department manager. It allows me to spend my days figuring this out and that alows me to come here and help. I rarely even mention my company unless it comes up I am not here as a sales person. I have to be transparent though and there are some limits to what I can share due to us being a business and all. I would put myself out of work.

 

[Derektruck]

Yeah. I am the Ford department manager. It allows me to spend my days figuring this out and that alows me to come here and help. I rarely even mention my company unless it comes up I am not here as a sales person. I have to be transparent though and there are some limits to what I can share due to us being a business and all. I would put myself out of work.

My truck is on the lot.. the salesman just told me that it does have the nav.. (but the sticker shows the conctd Nav/siriusxm delete) he said thats just the traffic and wx that u lose, but u still have the nav map

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