PowerBoost MPG - WTH??

[RSKTakR]

Bought my 23 PB a couple weeks ago, so far it has like 1009 miles on it running only 87oct and it's just a XLT with no tow mirrors. 100% bone stock right now other than the small harness to get rid of the fake engine noise and back up alarm. I keep my gauge cluster on the EV Coach so I can see how often it is in electric mode and I can try to control it better. The truck has been maintaining 23.2-23.4 mpg's. I drive on the hwy some but mostly back roads where I can stay under 50mph and actually stay in electric mode for as long as possible. I let this truck warm up for 10-15min in hybrid/ICE mode before I start driving and I stay out of boost as well. Getting into boost and driving with a heavy foot doubles your fuel pressure and kills your mpg's. There aren't many times that I can drive up a hill and remain in electric mode for that entire incline... sometimes I can keep it in electric mode until just before the peak, then it switches to hybrid, but then I hit the brake and try to switch it back to electric. I drove around in Eco mode for the first week of ownership and didn't think it made much difference. After reading on this website that it didn't, I have just left the truck in normal mode all the time. I also have a 2019 Ecoboost FX4 supercrew that is levelled with 34's that's been at 15.1mpgs for a couple years and I don't baby that truck at all. I can say that driving around in this PB definitely makes me feel like a pawpaw the way that I drive it to get good mpg's. I don't need to go fast with this truck since I have a 1k whp Mustang GT and I don't drive the truck daily since drive an old civic for a DD. Really trying to NOT level this truck and put slightly heavier tires/wheels on since I have my 2019 FX4 still... but MAN do I feel like a pawpaw lol.

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[dafish]

So some learnings that explain many of the first few pages of comments:

1. This thing does very very poorly in cold, heck even cool, weather.
   1. No, I'm not talking about the mild loss attributed to winter fuel.
   2. I don't know if the lubricant's (eg: wheel) are that affected by cold, but...
   3. I'm certain, certain, the battery has MUCH more range when it's over 60f out.
   4. I'm also certain the truck can be on battery much more easily when it's warm.
2. Anybody that has owned an Ecoboost and I've a few now, knows these things get lousy MPG when on boost. My PB is worse than the '18 EB I owned. Same trucks otherwise (down to the color choices). I suppose it's the greater weight, although to be fair I had a hard tonnea cover on the '18 and haven't added one to the '22 yet.
   1. Headwind kills MPG on these things, and hills hurt the PB more than the EB.
3. I feel like the shift strategy on these suck. I can get much better MPG, particularly when towing, if I'm actively managing boost by managing its gear choices. This was true of the '18 too, but it feels worse on the '22.
   1. I wonder if they've altered the emissions tuning and f'd things up.
4. I so see the '22 KR doesn't have disengaging front hubs anymore. The '18 did (IWE's) and there went at least 1 MPG. Thanks a lot Ford!
5. Just like any vehicle with lousy aero dynamics, drafting semi's help quite a bit.

Bottom line: You guys in warmer climbs are getting better results than we 4 season guys for good reason. Same for guys w/PB's that still have IWE's, etc!

 

[sh0rtyii]

I am looking to install a TOD in my XLT. It is a late 2021 and does have IWE at the wheels. What TCCM and Mode Switch are needed for the mod. I have located a ML34-14B596-BG that I beleive should work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[dochawk]

I am looking to install a TOD in my XLT.

TOD?

 

[FaaWrenchBndr]

Picked up my new-to-me '22PB KR in Cleveland yesterday. I'd rented a V-8 4x4 crew cab Ram 1500 from Budget as a one-way rental to get there. For a rental truck I ended up being really impressed. Part of that was the 20MPG average at 77-78mph for the <500 mile trip.

The PowerBoost? 16.7 mpg. Our almost identically built '18 Ecoboost can pretty reliably deliver 18mpg at those speeds. And I mean all but identical. Same bed, both max tow, both 3.5 turbo SCREW's, even same tow mirrors. Heck, same power folding side-boards. Of course the '18 will be 500lbs or so lighter. I suppose I expected too much, but I had hoped powerboost would have added 1-2 MPG on the highway. Fuelly sort of supported that hope, so did reading around the web. Yet the only way this was gonna get 20MPG was off a cliff.

Yes, in 2 wheel high, yes in eco mode. I'd blame the cold weather, or winter fuel, but the Ram 1500 just delivered 20mpg over the same trip. I wasn't towing, and I didn't see it running on boost. Wind not significant, and it did as poorly headed south as it did headed west. No error codes, 41psi in the tires, 27k miles on the truck, so it's broken in. Hybrid mode as least superficially works, for I can drive gently around a parking lot for a couple hundred feet, and watching power delivery mode today I see it occasionally hitting "hybrid mode".

Doing worse than the '18 is a bit of a surprise, doing worse AND having hybrid support to keep it off the turbo on hills and etc was REALLY a surprise. Sure slowing down helps, but the point is the PB just crapped the bed relative to it's peers.

Thoughts? Phone number to a suicide prevention hotline?

Thanks in advance,
-d

what gears did your 2018 have in it, I would guess they weren’t 3.73

 

[sh0rtyii]

TOD?

TOD (torque on demand) transfer case as opposed to the ESOF (elect shift on the fly) now installed. Sorry, I didn’t mean to hijack the thread.

 

[bdginmo]

I feel like the 4A transfer case should at least be an option on the XLTs.

 

[Nassau]

My early experience with my new 2024 Lariat PB. It’s running Michelin winter tires in stock overall size on 18s.

We drove down to Florida from Toronto at then end of the cold snap. For 1,450 miles my average speed was 64mph. Highway blue cruise was generally set at 80mph on the 70 highways. (I got a ticket in Georgia at 86 running with traffic. I swear he picked out my Ontario plates knowing I’d just pay the tax man).

Anyway, 18.9 mpg for the trip running 87 octane fuel. Down here in Cape Coral it’s averaging 24.8 mpg in mixed speeds. The Cape has a lot of 45mph arterial roads so the PB is in its element here.

 

[Samson16]

Picked up my new-to-me '22PB KR in Cleveland yesterday. I'd rented a V-8 4x4 crew cab Ram 1500 from Budget as a one-way rental to get there. For a rental truck I ended up being really impressed. Part of that was the 20MPG average at 77-78mph for the <500 mile trip.

The PowerBoost? 16.7 mpg. Our almost identically built '18 Ecoboost can pretty reliably deliver 18mpg at those speeds. And I mean all but identical. Same bed, both max tow, both 3.5 turbo SCREW's, even same tow mirrors. Heck, same power folding side-boards. Of course the '18 will be 500lbs or so lighter. I suppose I expected too much, but I had hoped powerboost would have added 1-2 MPG on the highway. Fuelly sort of supported that hope, so did reading around the web. Yet the only way this was gonna get 20MPG was off a cliff.

Yes, in 2 wheel high, yes in eco mode. I'd blame the cold weather, or winter fuel, but the Ram 1500 just delivered 20mpg over the same trip. I wasn't towing, and I didn't see it running on boost. Wind not significant, and it did as poorly headed south as it did headed west. No error codes, 41psi in the tires, 27k miles on the truck, so it's broken in. Hybrid mode as least superficially works, for I can drive gently around a parking lot for a couple hundred feet, and watching power delivery mode today I see it occasionally hitting "hybrid mode".

Doing worse than the '18 is a bit of a surprise, doing worse AND having hybrid support to keep it off the turbo on hills and etc was REALLY a surprise. Sure slowing down helps, but the point is the PB just crapped the bed relative to it's peers.

Thoughts? Phone number to a suicide prevention hotline?

Thanks in advance,
-d

Take it back or sell it quickly please!

Or…let’s check Fuelly and compare real world shall we?

The crappy Powerboost average mpg vs the vaunted Ram 1500 Crew Cab V8. I didn’t even bother with 4x4.

 

[HammaMan]

(I got a ticket in Georgia at 86 running with traffic. I swear he picked out my Ontario plates knowing I’d just pay the tax man)

There's a couple parasite counties whose existence is based solely on their ability to leech of the traffic heading down to FL. They're fleas after warm bodies. Monroe county / Forsyth, ga -- I'm pretty sure added a left lane to the interstate just to entice speeding, and they sit at the bottom of a dip you can't see them until they see you. I've never come through there and not seen their pirates looting folks. They tried to loot me once in college. They got zero out of me as I came through there regularly and knew the ladies at my little town's court house ("community service")

Who adds a left lane to the interstate that has no function? No HOV/ specialty lane, this is a little town

 

[Nassau]

Yup. Monroe County. I was going to show him my dash cam that would show all the traffic ahead of me going the same speed, but with his attitude, he wouldn’t budge anyway. I swear he picked the out of state plates in picking me to pull over. I’ll know next time I drive thru that area.

 

[UGADawg96]

There's a couple parasite counties whose existence is based solely on their ability to leech of the traffic heading down to FL. They're fleas after warm bodies. Monroe county / Forsyth, ga -- I'm pretty sure added a left lane to the interstate just to entice speeding, and they sit at the bottom of a dip you can't see them until they see you. I've never come through there and not seen their pirates looting folks. They tried to loot me once in college. They got zero out of me as I came through there regularly and knew the ladies at my little town's court house ("community service")

Who adds a left lane to the interstate that has no function? No HOV/ specialty lane, this is a little town

We camp a couple times a year at Indian Springs SP as a stop point on the way to Hard Labor Creek SP when going up to Athens for games. While we normally stop at Yahola Creek Restaurant and Blind Pig BBQ near Indian Spring SP since they are incredible, last fall we made the drive over to Her Majesty's Kitchen restaurant in Forsyth and it was amazing.

 

[FaaWrenchBndr]

Picked up my new-to-me '22PB KR in Cleveland yesterday. I'd rented a V-8 4x4 crew cab Ram 1500 from Budget as a one-way rental to get there. For a rental truck I ended up being really impressed. Part of that was the 20MPG average at 77-78mph for the <500 mile trip.

The PowerBoost? 16.7 mpg. Our almost identically built '18 Ecoboost can pretty reliably deliver 18mpg at those speeds. And I mean all but identical. Same bed, both max tow, both 3.5 turbo SCREW's, even same tow mirrors. Heck, same power folding side-boards. Of course the '18 will be 500lbs or so lighter. I suppose I expected too much, but I had hoped powerboost would have added 1-2 MPG on the highway. Fuelly sort of supported that hope, so did reading around the web. Yet the only way this was gonna get 20MPG was off a cliff.

Yes, in 2 wheel high, yes in eco mode. I'd blame the cold weather, or winter fuel, but the Ram 1500 just delivered 20mpg over the same trip. I wasn't towing, and I didn't see it running on boost. Wind not significant, and it did as poorly headed south as it did headed west. No error codes, 41psi in the tires, 27k miles on the truck, so it's broken in. Hybrid mode as least superficially works, for I can drive gently around a parking lot for a couple hundred feet, and watching power delivery mode today I see it occasionally hitting "hybrid mode".

Doing worse than the '18 is a bit of a surprise, doing worse AND having hybrid support to keep it off the turbo on hills and etc was REALLY a surprise. Sure slowing down helps, but the point is the PB just crapped the bed relative to it's peers.

Thoughts? Phone number to a suicide prevention hotline?

Thanks in advance,
-d

You didn’t do much research

 

[HammaMan]

Yup. Monroe County. I was going to show him my dash cam that would show all the traffic ahead of me going the same speed, but with his attitude, he wouldn’t budge anyway. I swear he picked the out of state plates in picking me to pull over. I’ll know next time I drive thru that area.

Damn, what are the odds of that -- Ya didn't even mention which route you came through
I showed up for my "court date" and it was in the judge's office with her, a deputy, and the recorder. I got the feeling that they had a racket going and nobody is actually supposed to show up. As if they've got special dates they handle the "totally not road piracy racket" where people from out of town don't show up.

They got 0$ out of me. Instead I helped out my local clerk of the court doing simple computer tasks I'm pretty sure was illegal for me to do, on a system I wasn't authorized to use. I had a stack of documents and tickets from the court and I was tasked with entering the dispositions of all of their court cases into the GCIC and putting her initials on it, as instructed. I finished quite quickly, got all of my "community service" time signed off for and got to lookup random people I knew in the state database. Yes, the SOL has long expired. Also, because I hit it off with the clerk in town, she changed 3 different tickets into "warnings" over the next year. Ah the good old days when the physical copy of the ticket was handed into the court for the next steps of it

 

[Kodiak]

They got 0$ out of me. Instead I helped out my local clerk of the court doing simple computer tasks I'm pretty sure was illegal for me to do, on a system I wasn't authorized to use.

HA! Thats nothing. If you were some unauthorized person unlawfully rummaging and download a butt ton of peoples personal information that you should not have access to, you would be working for President Musk, and have cover.

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