Are you trading your 21-23 for. 24+?

[HammaMan]

I really like the new Hybrid Ram thing, but realistically going and spending an extra $40K on a new truck to save some gas, will never make economic sense. Also, I genuinely miss driving smaller more nimble cars (I need a truck for my lifestyle and work). So my long term plan now is just to drive the F150 till about 150K miles and then add a sporty EV to drive the days that I don't need a truck.

Yeah, the REV's use-case/niche on a price/performance ratio starts to skew when you factor in a comparable ICE/FHEV truck and an EV errand runner as a duo. 2 vehicles cuts both ways, you have a spare, but you also have to keep some level of insurance on it which does add up. A sporty CUV EV can still hold 5 people or even a good store run while being a more compact package / traffic friendly. The ICE truck will still be the same price as the REV while doing long-legged truck things. There's about 10 people I know of with a similar Truck / EV combo. I've got 25 months of ownership and less than 7k miles on the PB thanks to the EV beater whose fuel costs has a negligible difference on the electric bill.

When the EV transition goes mainstream and gasoline begins to fall into a waste-pricing model, things will get interesting. Ships and aviation need their fuels and there's always going to be a healthy amount of gasoline as a byproduct. We already flare enough natural gas within the ConUS to meet almost half of california's electrical needs because it costs more to move it than it's worth. I have questions regarding the feasibility of building a thermal plant and a set of lines to connect it to the grid in some capacity since it's being burned anyway. The EV transition will shift burden from the pump to the grid so all avenues should be explored. $10k (and cheaper) EVs are on the horizon with new battery costs dropping down to $40/kWh thanks to sodium, which also drastically reduces the 'really cold' temp hits.

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[Calson]

Very tempted to trade my 2022 F-150 XLT for a Ram 1500. I have had my truck out of service more than half the time since I bought it in April of 2022.

It reminds me why many years ago I switched to Toyota trucks where with the four 4WD trucks I owned and drove more than 150k miles with each and only had to do scheduled servicing and never had a breakdown or part failure or recall issue.

 

[Matisse70]

What kind of issues? My 21 Limited has issues, leaking sunroof that seems to never stop leaking to boot....

The leak my be due to clogged drain holes. Locate them in the front corners of the open sun roof. You will need at least a 14 Guage wire to clear the drain holes

 

[HDT05]

My 2021 V8 Lariat 501A was a lease and it expired recently after I'd put approx 52k miles on it over the 3 years of pretty well trouble free motoring. If I'd financed in the first place I would have kept it, however after doing all the numbers it was a no brainer to buy another one....

I'm probably the target market for the current Lariat... (older and wider?) I only wanted a V8, FX4, Lariat and it comes standard exactly how I wanted it other than adding a moonroof (same as last time) and now as I went to 502A I get HUD (which I love and had many years ago in other vehicles), and a couple of other minor extras which actually mean a lot to me... eg the extended running board means I don't have to step up onto the wheel to reach into the front part of the bed and as a builder my tools can often fill up the entire bed.....

So, even though I upgraded from a 2021 to a 2024 Lariat, added a couple of new options with the 501A to 502A, thanks to the guys at Granger I have paid exactly $820 more for my 2024 than I did for my 2021 back 3 years ago.......... and I'm very happy with my new truck.

Each person's situation is different so as I said in another thread, for me it was no problems...

Now if I wanted a V8 Platinum then that's a problem.....

 

[Paul Neubauer]

I have honestly had such a bad experience with my truck and the Ford brand overall that I will probably never buy a Ford product again. My truck has been in the dealership service yard for well over 150 days now and nobody knows how to fix it and Ford won't buy it back.

 

[wessermgm]

I have a 2022 Platinum. It's been good, but it is loaded with deletes. I guess I am still a little stung that I paid a lot of money for a Plat and didn't really get a Plat. I checked with Granger for a 24 KR and it is about $6k less (with a PCO) than I paid a dealer for my current truck. It presumably will have all of the missing items (save for the Park Assist, which Ford has apparently just scrapped completely) and the Moonroof, which I wanted but couldn't find when I bought my 2022.

Doesn't really matter, because I have been waiting since 10/13/23 and still haven't been scheduled yet. Ford doesn't want to sell me another truck.

 

[Grafx36510]

While the new tremor grill and bumper have grown on me, losing the dynamic bending headlights, the signature drl and the increased cost plus interest tells me I have a great deal on my 2022. Yes, the HUD is nice but my MSRP was 71,840 and is not over 78,000 for a downgrade in headlights and a cheaper look. So, 2024 is a no for me.

 

[stlgrym3]

no way in hell i trade in my fully paid for 23 PB Lariat, although i do envy the fact the 24's have 365 camera standard across the lineup. trading in vehicle in general for the latest and greatest within 5 years or less is just dumb, but that's my humble opinion.

 

[Shane150]

Very tempted to trade my 2022 F-150 XLT for a Ram 1500. I have had my truck out of service more than half the time since I bought it in April of 2022.

It reminds me why many years ago I switched to Toyota trucks where with the four 4WD trucks I owned and drove more than 150k miles with each and only had to do scheduled servicing and never had a breakdown or part failure or recall issue.

Toyota is probably the most reliable brand but boy that Tundra is just butt ugly! Come to think of it, most Toyota cars are ugly! Maybe it's a thing at Toyota.

 

[National Superbike]

I have honestly had such a bad experience with my truck and the Ford brand overall that I will probably never buy a Ford product again. My truck has been in the dealership service yard for well over 150 days now and nobody knows how to fix it and Ford won't buy it back.

Do you not have a lemon law in your state? In GA, 30 days out of service qualifies it for the lemon law.

 

[Samson16]

I guess I dont get it. The V-8 is not offered in the Platnium any longer. No premium packages offer the V-8.

I do not get that one bit. Ford seems to understand the rightful place the V8 has in our hearts through its dedication and improvement with the Mustang GT platform. Relegating the 5.0 to an entry/mid level option in the F-150 makes no sense. If I’m dropping $80k on a truck, the entire engine portfolio should be mine to choose from.

 

[Paul Neubauer]

Do you not have a lemon law in your state? In GA, 30 days out of service qualifies it for the lemon law.

It has been submitted to Ford twice and they said they are not required to buy it back under Texas law both times.

 

[Calson]

Lemon laws vary by state. In California if the manufacturer issues a recall then the customer has to wait for how many months it takes for the part to be available. I waited for 8 years for the Takata airbag actuators to get replaced and finally sold the truck "as is"

I waited for more than a year to get the replacement wiper motor and an attorney told me that if a recall had been issued all I could do was wait or dump the truck.

 

[franksfords]

nope. just bought my 23 a month ago. looked at them probably 9 months ago but backed out. decided to go ahead with the 23. looked at 24's but don't care for new front end. I did like the larger screen but that wasn't enough for me plus there's the price increase. feel I got a good deal on what I bought. retirement in about 2 years so wanted to have something paid off. still have my 2004 F150 for two years then it's getting passed to my grandson. I have an 18 Explorer also.

 

[jhelrey]

I paid $49K for my 2021 used with 50K miles on it almost a year ago. Private party. I have an extended warranty until 2029 or 130K and currently sitting at 61K miles. Miles would have been much higher had we received snow. The cabin trips will start to add up the miles.

However I do the math, it doesn't compute for me to get into a 2024.

I love the fact I have zero missing options, no truck payments, got $10K for my 2011 with 200K miles on it, etc. I really can't complain where I'm at, not to mention, blessed and fortunate.

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