Interesting Developments on "Repurchased" F-150

[Vin]

Nice truck... i think your going to find the 5.3L engine a bit of dog, it is the worst engine in the GMC lineup. the baby duramax is my fav of GMC, and if i was not paying the gas bill the 6.2L

My old 2003 GMC 6.0L with a 4 speed Auto was a gas guzzling dog but BY FAR the most reliable powertrain that I ever owned. Old japanese-made Toyotas included.

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[2mileshigh]

I apologize if some of you think I am gloating here. It was a very vagarious system of steps I went through in dealing with the problems of my 2022 Lariat Powerboost. Even after that ordeal I was ready to buy another one until I was told it would cost me another $8,000 plus the "Repurchase" cash. Rather than pay the $8,000, I cancelled the Ford and went to GMC where I ordered a Sierra SLT for the "Repurchase" cash. At the moment, I do not have any truck. I thought there would be members of the Forum that would appreciate the details of my journey and some of the considerations. I have nothing to celebrate here or gloat about. I had to buy a 2006 VW Beetle just to get around while this truck business is still sorting out.

I wouldn't give it a second thought. You'll never reason with the unreasonable. Many members here are capable of independent and critical thinking, and do appreciate you sharing your experience.

I had a 2015 GMC Sierra Denali with the 5.3. The 5.3 was a great blend of power and economy for a truck. It averaged over 18 MPG, and cruised effortlessly between my homes at 6000 and 10,000 feet in altitude, with plenty of power to spare. It's been my only GM truck to date. I had literally no problems in the year I owned it.

 

[Snakebitten]

Again, I think it's a bit disingenuous to state that he was just sharing his experience with his Ford truck, which he was, but then added

For a bit of time I felt some regret about leaving the Powerboost but that passed when I noticed that the Ford F-150 Powerboost was rated by CR to be the Least Reliable Vehicle sold in the United States in 2022

You gotta be naive to think on a F150 forum that wouldn't draw some of the responses it has.

 

[Pedaldude]

One of the hilarious things about just about every magazine/media outlets lists is the 10 worst are also the 10 best in many cases, since it’s not like there’s much of a choice. The only difference will be what configuration.

And that’s how you lose a customer. It’s like Ford thinks there’s no competition out there

Thanks to Toyota’s shortsightedness with their own hybrid half ton truck; Ford really is the only choice if you want an integrated 7.2KW generator.

Toyota has also been having issues with turbos but it seems like the dealerships have been doing a good job of remedying it.

...in fact the creation of the thread itself...

Just to be clear, I'm not offended...

I am offended. From the thread title; I expected some Dateline style investigation into OP’s actual truck and something interesting

...I have nothing to celebrate here or gloat about. I had to buy a 2006 VW Beetle just to get around while this truck business is still sorting out.

Ouch! This potential situation is why I kept my ‘01 Navigator. Even though I have the V8, it’s the first year of cylinder deactivation. Infant mortality is even more likely on something as complex as the Powerboost. I still have the old SUV because if anything happens to or with the truck; the current waiting times are the equivalent of getting a fridge or Trabant in cold war East Germany.

 

[Snakebitten]

Ouch! This potential situation is why I kept my ‘01 Navigator. Even though I have the V8, it’s the first year of cylinder deactivation. Infant mortality is even more likely on something as complex as the Powerboost. I still have the old SUV because if anything happens to or with the truck; the current waiting times are the equivalent of getting a fridge or Trabant in cold war East Germany.

I've stated on several threads the good fortune that I've had with 2 personal Powerboost, and I company truck Powerboost. The fact that one person has 3 examples that have had ZERO issues, is statistically relevant, but doesn't mean the Powerboost assembly line hasn't delivered some trucks with issues. They obviously have.

But like you, just in case I have poor luck with some component in the future (of course it can happen), I kept my 2012 F150 Normally Aspirated truck, a 2016 Miata, and a 2005 Porsche. Only the Powerboost wasn't a $teal to acquire. But I'm fortunate not to have to worry about any one vehicle letting me down and left stranded.

Everyone should have a beater to fall back on. No brand new vehicle is immune to potential manufacturer shortcomings.

 

[My 2ND Ford]

Again, I think it's a bit disingenuous to state that he was just sharing his experience with his Ford truck, which he was, but then added

For a bit of time I felt some regret about leaving the Powerboost but that passed when I noticed that the Ford F-150 Powerboost was rated by CR to be the Least Reliable Vehicle sold in the United States in 2022

You gotta be naive to think on a F150 forum that wouldn't draw some of the responses it has.

A good friend of mine with a Yamaha FJR motorcycle belonged to a forum very similar to this one. Fridays were dog pile central. If you asked a question, any question, you could expect to be roasted. Even if thunder chief had simply stated that Ford had bought his truck back and that he was not getting another, he still would have been interrogated as to why. I take what CR recommends with a large grain of salt. I believe his big complaint was that Ford wanted an additional $8000 over and above his buy back price.

 

[Snakebitten]

I believe his big complaint was that Ford wanted an additional $8000 over and above his buy back price.

That IS the worst aspect of his scenario, in my opinion.

I assume the buy-back/reorder-replacement option would have looked VERY different without the current long wait for build AND the painful inflation between the 2 year model trucks. Not to mention the potential constraints on some features.

A perfect storm for a lousy scenario. I'm not heartless. He definitely has my empathy.

 

[MoSlick]

I apologize if some of you think I am gloating here. It was a very vagarious system of steps I went through in dealing with the problems of my 2022 Lariat Powerboost. Even after that ordeal I was ready to buy another one until I was told it would cost me another $8,000 plus the "Repurchase" cash. Rather than pay the $8,000, I cancelled the Ford and went to GMC where I ordered a Sierra SLT for the "Repurchase" cash. At the moment, I do not have any truck. I thought there would be members of the Forum that would appreciate the details of my journey and some of the considerations. I have nothing to celebrate here or gloat about. I had to buy a 2006 VW Beetle just to get around while this truck business is still sorting out.

I am not sure what you mean by repurchase. Why didn’t you do the Ford buy back. I did the Ford buyback and my dealer ordered me an identical Ford truck with a few added features and we swapped keys at the end of the deal when it came in. I did not pay one single penny. Ford bent over backwards to make me happy. They also offered me a very fair price if I wanted to take the cash. You must not have had a very good dealer working for you. My second truck is amazing.

 

[Thunderchief]

I am not sure what you mean by repurchase. Why didn’t you do the Ford buy back. I did the Ford buyback and my dealer ordered me an identical Ford truck with a few added features and we swapped keys at the end of the deal when it came in. I did not pay one single penny. Ford bent over backwards to make me happy. They also offered me a very fair price if I wanted to take the cash. You must not have had a very good dealer working for you. My second truck is amazing.

I called it "Buy Back" but Ford called it "Repurchase" so I figured out there was a proper name here and it was "Repurchase". I received an amount equal to what I paid for the truck. I wanted another 2022 but they were no longer available and I had to order a 2023. The 2023 cost $8,000 more than the 2022. I don't know how my dealer could have been nicer to me.

 

[mbouck3]

I guess it's consoling to be consoled by consumer reports?
I can't blame anyone for drawing their line on buying from a brand that you had a negative experience with. But Consumer Reports wouldn't make the insult feel any better.

By the way, a 2023 GM truck cost more than a 2022 GM truck.
Inflation isn't a Ford exclusive.
A 2023 truck by any manufacturer is going to be less truck for the money than your 2022 Powerboost was.

seems to be a lot of PB bashing on this forum. I just returned from towing a 8,000 lb 5th wheel 600 miles to my brothers at pine island Fl. Saw 12 mpg at 65 and under. It exceeded my expectations. Maybe because of the ice electric debate or maybe because forums attract people with issues while the rest of them go on their marry way. I do know for the year proceeding my buy every time I saw a PB I would ask their opinion.I do not remember anyone complaining, just praise and a smile

 

[mbouck3]

Nope. Impossible. Ford has intentionally and systematically victimized everyone.

They missed me. They even included xm and nav which I did not order does not show on window sticker and my trim should have been deleted anyway, those dirty bastards

 

[Vin]

They missed me. They even included xm and nav which I did not order does not show on window sticker and my trim should have been deleted anyway, those dirty bastards

Agreed. I recommend that you buy a GMC, but continue to post passive/aggressive comments about your POS Ford here.

 

[dkevox]

seems to be a lot of PB bashing on this forum. I just returned from towing a 8,000 lb 5th wheel 600 miles to my brothers at pine island Fl. Saw 12 mpg at 65 and under. It exceeded my expectations. Maybe because of the ice electric debate or maybe because forums attract people with issues while the rest of them go on their marry way. I do know for the year proceeding my buy every time I saw a PB I would ask their opinion.I do not remember anyone complaining, just praise and a smile

I love car forums, but an important lesson to learn is that the posts on forums are not representative of anything. Most people don't have any issues so don't post much at all, this grossly skews the threads to make problems seem like a bigger deal.

But the hardest lesson to learn is to take all advise from a car forum with a grain of salt. It can be helpful and informative, but the forum can also develop a sort of "collective" mentality where people believe something to be true without any experience with it. Believe it so much they will comment and talk about something like it's gospel. When the reality is that nobody has any experience and it could be horrible advise. I'd always recommend consulting an expert with experience before accepting the general advice found on a forum.

 

[dolsen]

I love car forums, but an important lesson to learn is that the posts on forums are not representative of anything. Most people don't have any issues so don't post much at all, this grossly skews the threads to make problems seem like a bigger deal.

But the hardest lesson to learn is to take all advise from a car forum with a grain of salt. It can be helpful and informative, but the forum can also develop a sort of "collective" mentality where people believe something to be true without any experience with it. Believe it so much they will comment and talk about something like it's gospel. When the reality is that nobody has any experience and it could be horrible advise. I'd always recommend consulting an expert with experience before accepting the general advice found on a forum.

Well said, my guy

 

[Snakebitten]

I love car forums, but an important lesson to learn is that the posts on forums are not representative of anything. Most people don't have any issues so don't post much at all, this grossly skews the threads to make problems seem like a bigger deal.

But the hardest lesson to learn is to take all advise from a car forum with a grain of salt. It can be helpful and informative, but the forum can also develop a sort of "collective" mentality where people believe something to be true without any experience with it. Believe it so much they will comment and talk about something like it's gospel. When the reality is that nobody has any experience and it could be horrible advise. I'd always recommend consulting an expert with experience before accepting the general advice found on a forum.

I agree 99.8%!

Except the "consult an expert before accepting the general advice found on a forum".

I've found over the years it IS on a forum that you are likely to find the experience and expertise that can be very difficult to find elsewhere. Especially in the automotive industry where there's a veil between the customer and the real experts and experience. (try to get past the service writer to the technician(s) that are actual experts, if the dealership is fortunate to have one or two)

But I do understand your point and it's a very good one.

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