ECU module programming guide using FDRS

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Yeah I'll get on it now. That comment was more tongue in cheek on my part. Thanks for spotting that sir! Updates are perpetual!

i KNOW.

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[Shoebox72069]

Man my previous question got completely steam rolled... any opinions or meaningful differences between the VCX and the Mongoose?

There is quite a bit more risk with the VCX around the CCM module and any module chained with it. I was able to update most modules with my Nano with no issues.

Bought a mongoose and never had any issues after.

Would recommend a mongoose to play it safe and I'm sure others here would agree.

 

[dolsen]

There is quite a bit more risk with the VCX around the CCM module and any module chained with it. I was able to update most modules with my Nano with no issues.

Bought a mongoose and never had any issues after.

Would recommend a mongoose to play it safe and I'm sure others here would agree.

That was kinda my line of thinking, but without having it explicitly stated, I was still torn on which to buy. With this kind of clear cut statement, I'll just pony up the extra money

 

[rugedraw]

Man my previous question got completely steam rolled... any opinions or meaningful differences between the VCX and the Mongoose?

I would refer to the first post of this thread for your answer. The VCX is harder to use due to not being able to perform network scans without corrupting data. It also says you can't update the CCM without possibly bricking the module, and then you need a Mongoose to recover it. Refer to appendix 5 for details on that. When I read that, I opted for the Mongoose from the get-go.

 

[dolsen]

I would refer to the first post of this thread for your answer. The VCX is harder to use due to not being able to perform network scans without corrupting data. It also says you can't update the CCM without possibly bricking the module, and then you need a Mongoose to recover it. Refer to appendix 5 for details on that. When I read that, I opted for the Mongoose from the get-go.

I guess I misread that bold portion, I was under the impression it was more difficult but not necessarily impossible. Thanks for the input fellas

 

[JEB]

That was kinda my line of thinking, but without having it explicitly stated, I was still torn on which to buy. With this kind of clear cut statement, I'll just pony up the extra money

That’s a good idea. The chaining of updates really makes selective programming to avoid the modules the Nano can’t handle an impractical and unsound strategy. See the discussion around Posts 2524 and 3296. You are far better off ponying up for the Mongoose. One unexpected module the Nano can’t handle chained to another you wanted to update and you’ll be buying a Mongoose anyway.

 

[BHunted1]

Incidentally, if you have Siri, Alexa, Sync4 Nav and your significant other, in the truck at the same time. You’re in deep doo doo. Bad enough I yell at Sync when nagging me when I have to turn, but having 2 other robots and a back seat driver for a wife, you will need to start drinking! ??? ?

 

[Snakebitten]

I guess I misread that bold portion, I was under the impression it was more difficult but not necessarily impossible. Thanks for the input fellas

At the risk of too much optimism, I predict used Mongoose adapters to be available on Ebay soon.

 

[dolsen]

At the risk of too much optimism, I predict used Mongoose adapters to be available on Ebay soon.

I keep checking but haven't found one yet... Wanna sell yours?

 

[JScaro]

At the risk of too much optimism, I predict used Mongoose adapters to be available on Ebay soon.

I rather keep it, use it for ForScan and still have the capability of FDRS. Dealers aren't gonna do an update just because but I sure as heck will.

 

[JScaro]

I keep checking but haven't found one yet... Wanna sell yours?

If your in here reading this thread, bite the bullet. It's a tool for you tool box.

 

[rugedraw]

I keep checking but haven't found one yet... Wanna sell yours?

I started this last week, and no one has responded. You are welcome to be the first:

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/community-mongoose-thread.13145/

 

[GDN]

There are modules in these trucks that can't be updated without FDRS and a cable is my understanding - something like the Wireless charging pad. I know that thing is basically useless anyway, but word is that that module was updated for the MachE and maybe the Lightning. Maybe for ICE too some day. I believe the name is WCAM.

 

[Snakebitten]

Uhoh.
Unintended consequences for my remark regarding Mongoose availability....

Of course this thread is full of fellas that you couldn't pry their mongoose from their dead hands.

But there ARE some who reached deep for the acquisition ONLY because they wanted a feature set bad enough. Bluecruise for example. A huge example I might add.

If Ford really does figure out how to get OTA to reliably keep those folks uptodate with the feature oriented updates, they might want to recoup some of the investment in a tool they are unlikely to need?

And although it is true that there are modules that are unlikely to ever be updated OTA? I can't tell you how many folk's VINs I have looked up and provided a list of updates to and they were unmoved by a PCM update. Lol

I want the PCM update enough to buy the Mongoose.

 

[JEB]

There are modules in these trucks that can't be updated without FDRS and a cable is my understanding - something like the Wireless charging pad. I know that thing is basically useless anyway, but word is that that module was updated for the MachE and maybe the Lightning. Maybe for ICE too some day. I believe the name is WCAM.

List is quite a bit longer than that. Last I looked, the following modules in addition to the WACM can’t be updated OTA, so you’ll need FDRS:

ACCM
BECM
DCDC
GSM
OCSM
PACM
RGTM
TCCM

This list is not exhaustive. These are for the non-BC enabled Powerboost Lariat 502a. The list will be somewhat different for non-Powerboosts and different trims/options.

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