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Part of the risk to the rest of us is that some people fleeing such hellholes continue to vote in ways that helped create the nightmare they're fleeing, thus endangering the quality of life in sane areas.
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California and New York have been slowly shifting to business savvy side the last 3 election cycles. New York will likely become a swing state in the coming decade,New Jersey is all really there. Cali likely won’t ever be a swing state though, they will be stuck in the same old same old.
 

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At this point they should split from the US
The solution is simple, functionally dissolve their state govt and bar anyone currently in any management position, elected or otherwise. Use a novel interpretation of federal law and the constitution to bankrupt/incarcerate/etc... The whole good for the goose being good for the gander thing.

CARB alone could be eliminated with a handful of different means especially with how the commerce clause is used.
 

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Part of the risk to the rest of us is that some people fleeing such hellholes continue to vote in ways that helped create the nightmare they're fleeing, thus endangering the quality of life in sane areas.
and that’s one reason why I live where I live. I highly doubt anybody leaving California will come to where I’m at….. and that’s a plus for me
 

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Austin was always the West Coast soul of Texas. Now it has successfully become defacto California in the heart of the state.

I'm sure there are plenty of similar examples in some other states?

I'm so old that I just roll with the punches now. Or put another way, life is literally too short to let the funny/strange/weird steal my joy today. ?
 

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Part of the risk to the rest of us is that some people fleeing such hellholes continue to vote in ways that helped create the nightmare they're fleeing, thus endangering the quality of life in sane areas.
Yes, Colorado is a vivid demonstration of that process. I was living there in 1990's when a mass migration from California
The solution is simple, functionally dissolve their state govt and bar anyone currently in any management position, elected or otherwise. Use a novel interpretation of federal law and the constitution to bankrupt/incarcerate/etc... The whole good for the goose being good for the gander thing.

CARB alone could be eliminated with a handful of different means especially with how the commerce clause is used.
There is considerable support in California to break it up into 3 to 6 new states. This is the simplest thing to do and there is historical precedence. I would move to the new state of Jefferson.

As for CARB, it was created by an exemption in the Clean Air Act legislation. That exemption could be removed by Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
 

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Part of the risk to the rest of us is that some people fleeing such hellholes continue to vote in ways that helped create the nightmare they're fleeing, thus endangering the quality of life in sane areas.
Agreed. We see the encroachment of this in Idaho. California conservatives are still pretty liberal and expect lots of govt entitlements that don’t need to exist.

California would be amazing if it weren’t for Californians.
 

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Living in Las Vegas and we are already seeing the effects. ?
Las Vegas is the only blue part of the state as people from that hell hole are moving here by the thousands!
The cost of living has risen dramatically in the last few years. Most of us can’t even afford a new house because of the influx.
A $500K home now runs $911K base price (no options).
The worst part is that, they say, they’re running from the failed policies BUT, they vote the same crap in here!!!
They are the exact definition of insanity! “Do the same thing over and over but expecting a different result”.
 

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Living in Las Vegas and we are already seeing the effects. ?
Las Vegas is the only blue part of the state as people from that hell hole are moving here by the thousands!
The cost of living has risen dramatically in the last few years. Most of us can’t even afford a new house because of the influx.
A $500K home now runs $911K base price (no options).
The worst part is that, they say, they’re running from the failed policies BUT, they vote the same crap in here!!!
They are the exact definition of insanity! “Do the same thing over and over but expecting a different result”.
They're not real bright.

I know. I work for the state of Illinois.
 

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It gets worse, in an effort to curb tourism, and open up state parks
They are also banning those sized vehicles from entering the state..
And semi trucks will have to switch to ev only once they cross into ca
Just watch
 

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Living in Las Vegas and we are already seeing the effects. ?
Las Vegas is the only blue part of the state as people from that hell hole are moving here by the thousands!
The cost of living has risen dramatically in the last few years. Most of us can’t even afford a new house because of the influx.
A $500K home now runs $911K base price (no options).
The worst part is that, they say, they’re running from the failed policies BUT, they vote the same crap in here!!!
They are the exact definition of insanity! “Do the same thing over and over but expecting a different result”.
Reno isn’t far off.
 

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Austin was always the West Coast soul of Texas. Now it has successfully become defacto California in the heart of the state.
Not so sure I'd call what my hometown has now become "successful". In spite of the too-affected 'keep Austin weird' hype, it sure isn't the town I knew.

T'was a great place to be a kid from 1952, and I greatly enjoyed being a part of the liberal 'Austin hippy' scene even into the late 1970's in spite of the growth that occurred to that point.

MoPac was built while I was away in the Army, 1972-1974, returning was when I realized Thomas Wolfe was right ... 'you can't go home again'.

I moved 35 miles east to rural acreage in Bastrop County in 1983 (maybe not far enough it now seems, but I'm dug-in), since my Mom died last year Austin is a rarely visited foreign country to me.

life is literally too short to let the funny/strange/weird [/just f-ing nuts] steal my joy today. ?
(y) :)
 

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Might happen after the recent red wave.
Except we aren’t giving up the ports. Notice there’s no naval national guard. They can continue to drive up costs unfortunately.
 

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Not so sure I'd call what my hometown has now become "successful". In spite of the too-affected 'keep Austin weird' hype, it sure isn't the town I knew.

T'was a great place to be a kid from 1952, and I greatly enjoyed being a part of the liberal 'Austin hippy' scene even into the late 1970's in spite of the growth that occurred to that point.

MoPac was built while I was away in the Army, 1972-1974, returning was when I realized Thomas Wolfe was right ... 'you can't go home again'.

I moved 35 miles east to rural acreage in Bastrop County in 1983 (maybe not far enough it now seems, but I'm dug-in), since my Mom died last year Austin is a rarely visited foreign country to me.


(y) :)
My daughter and her husband live near Bastrop in Del Valle. They miss the Austin they knew just ten years ago.
 

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T'was a great place to be a kid from 1952, and I greatly enjoyed being a part of the liberal 'Austin hippy' scene even into the late 1970's in spite of the growth that occurred to that point.




(y) :)
1970's Austin liberal is a whole different animal than today's Austin/California liberal., ?

I wish being a classic (70's) hippie was Austin's biggest cultural challenge currently. ?

My childhood and youth included lots of Canyon lake weekends. Fond memories indeed.
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