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I'd be willing to bet that the majority of lights that have burned are actually set to OEM brightness. Chances are it's more of a crap shoot on how they were assembled and how close the light array bars are mounted to the LEDs. Even at say 25% intensity the LEDs can and will get extremely hot and if the bar array is pressed right up against them, chances are it will burn/melt causing the exact same issue again.
Somewhat interesting, mazda actually has fans cooling their LEDs. These are very sealed up with minimal effort to dissipate heat. Im wondering if a few vent holes would help.
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Somewhat interesting, mazda actually has fans cooling their LEDs. These are very sealed up with minimal effort to dissipate heat. Im wondering if a few vent holes would help.
It's not a matter of it getting too hot within the housing itself, rather the direct bulb to DRL array bar plastic contact. Most headlights have vents on them already and drilling additional vent holes would not really help. Instead it may actually cause more problems than what you're trying to fix. Depending on where the additional holes are placed and not installing some sort of moisture barrier you could end up having an issue with internal fogging in the event of water intrusion from the new vents.
 
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Ford needs to at a minimum do a software recall to lower the brightness and lessen the risk of burning. I would be okay with it being slightly more dim if its never going to fail.
lowering the brightness like @Porpoise Hork said is basically just a band aid. would not be a long term permanent solution.
 

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i'm totally with you on this one man. ram or toyota will be my next half ton pickup truck of choice. i hope to see AT LEAST 200K miles with my f150 but only time will tell ?‍♂
Right, because toyota and ram don't have all of their new models under recall :cwl:
 
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Right, because toyota and ram don't have all of their new models under recall :cwl:
i’ve had both brands before in the past and they’ve never gave me numerous nuisances like my f150 has. i’m not a “loyalist” for any brand. i just want a damn working vehicle especially if i paid $65K for it.
 

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Right, because toyota and ram don't have all of their new models under recall :cwl:

I'd be likely to take my chances with Toyota even though their truck engines are under a recall to replace the entire engine. The reason being, Toyota IMO, has always done the right thing for the customer when it comes to standing by their warranty and also covering many TSB repairs. Two examples I know of are the rusty frame replacement on the Tundra and Tacoma, and also we owned a 2009 Sienna that had a cracked dash pad. The car had 160,000 miles on it and they replaced it free of charge because they had a customer satisfaction bulletin or something like that. We had always held Toyota in high regard, and this dash pad replacement made it even more so. The engine recall doesn't concern me at all. They seem to get to the bottom of problems fairly quickly and when they come out with a fix, it actually fixes the problem.
 

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I'd be likely to take my chances with Toyota even though their truck engines are under a recall to replace the entire engine. The reason being, Toyota IMO, has always done the right thing for the customer when it comes to standing by their warranty and also covering many TSB repairs. Two examples I know of are the rusty frame replacement on the Tundra and Tacoma, and also we owned a 2009 Sienna that had a cracked dash pad. The car had 160,000 miles on it and they replaced it free of charge because they had a customer satisfaction bulletin or something like that. We had always held Toyota in high regard, and this dash pad replacement made it even more so. The engine recall doesn't concern me at all. They seem to get to the bottom of problems fairly quickly and when they come out with a fix, it actually fixes the problem.
True that Toyota does take care of their customers like this. I just can't bring myself to buy a Tundra at this point. At lease not after they beat it within inches of its life with a huge fugly stick.
 

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I'd be likely to take my chances with Toyota even though their truck engines are under a recall to replace the entire engine. The reason being, Toyota IMO, has always done the right thing for the customer when it comes to standing by their warranty and also covering many TSB repairs. Two examples I know of are the rusty frame replacement on the Tundra and Tacoma, and also we owned a 2009 Sienna that had a cracked dash pad. The car had 160,000 miles on it and they replaced it free of charge because they had a customer satisfaction bulletin or something like that. We had always held Toyota in high regard, and this dash pad replacement made it even more so. The engine recall doesn't concern me at all. They seem to get to the bottom of problems fairly quickly and when they come out with a fix, it actually fixes the problem.
I'd be likely to take my chances with Toyota even though their truck engines are under a recall to replace the entire engine. The reason being, Toyota IMO, has always done the right thing for the customer when it comes to standing by their warranty and also covering many TSB repairs. Two examples I know of are the rusty frame replacement on the Tundra and Tacoma, and also we owned a 2009 Sienna that had a cracked dash pad. The car had 160,000 miles on it and they replaced it free of charge because they had a customer satisfaction bulletin or something like that. We had always held Toyota in high regard, and this dash pad replacement made it even more so. The engine recall doesn't concern me at all. They seem to get to the bottom of problems fairly quickly and when they come out with a fix, it actually fixes the problem.
I wouldn't let the Tundra engine problem scare anyone off from getting one if that`s what they want. When I ordered a new f350 superduty in 2000 that I badly needed for my company, guess who delayed delivery for six months because of engine problems? You and a couple other posters have nailed it, ford corporate response and taking care of vehicle owners and their mechanics has moved past atrocious into blatant abandonment. The consistency of their inconsistency in being able to put out trouble free vehicles is unfathomable. It seems every component of these gen14 trucks is having or has had problems. 91 pages of problems on a 3 year old model? This is the sickest vehicle out there. It is perfectly acceptable to fomoco to have the consumer at his cost be the product tester and their guinea pig and then let the owner struggle with trying to get things fixed because fomoco doesn`t give a shet. I didn't even know what an internet forum was until I ordered and bought a 21 and then had to go searching for what the hell happened to ford trucks just to discover gen14 has problems all over the place. I would blame no ford owner for looking or at least checking other brands if their trucks are as poor of quality as mine.
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I'd say that a lot of the issues with the Gen14's are more due to Ford's hiring of a furniture maker Hackett as CEO who cared more about the bottom line and cutting costs to keep share holders happy instead of maintaining quality.

Farley is not much better as evident in how piss poor Ford's treatment to its customers still is 4 years into his reign.
 

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Went to dealer today to see about mine, $3700 was quoted for replacement both headlamp assemblies. My extended warranty does not cover them. ? Main reason purchased it was to cover electrical/electronic failures..disappointing to say the least.
 
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Went to dealer today to see about mine, $3700 was quoted for replacement both headlamp assemblies. My extended warranty does not cover them. ? Main reason purchased it was to cover electrical/electronic failures..disappointing to say the least.
the lighting warranty is an add on believe it or not. some are unaware of it.
best of luck though..
 

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Wonder if they changed the part at all on the newer models? I have an XL and it has the DRL on a 2025.
 

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Went to dealer today to see about mine, $3700 was quoted for replacement both headlamp assemblies. My extended warranty does not cover them. ? Main reason purchased it was to cover electrical/electronic failures..disappointing to say the least.
your salesman let you down there. That should’ve been discussed when you bought the truck and decided about the warranty.
 

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the lighting warranty is an add on believe it or not. some are unaware of it.
best of luck though..
This is true. I’ve purchased several Fords over the last few years and always get an extended warranty. There are several (add on or subtract off) (explained below) options for the extended warranty. These include a few rental car options and the exterior/interior lights options. The options appear to cost about $70 each on the low side and about $120-150 on the high side, depending on where you buy the warranty.

What I’ve seen is that your local dealer will likely have a screen where they have to check DELETE if you want to exclude the option (i.e. they default to selling you everything at the higher price with nothing checkmarked as DELETE). However, if you buy from one of the internet extended warranty mass sellers (Zeigler, Flood, Grainger, etc) they generally default to the options being off and you have to checkmark to ADD them on if you want it (i. e. default to showing you their lowest price).
 

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I know it’s a Ford forum, but the BMW has red led light bars on the back, similar to these DRL. Every single X1 I’ve been behind has the drivers side inner light bar burned out. Clearly a design or supply issue. When my first one failed a few months after warranty, I ordered a new one from Germany and waited a week. Once it came I replaced the whole tail light assembly….because that’s the only fix. The LED module is molded into the plastic. When it failed again this winter I ordered the $80 one from China and waited 4 weeks. My 16 year old was skeptical because what if it didn’t match. Well, it did. And for the price difference I could get 5 from China. Odds are likely the same supplier makes both.
Meanwhile on the Chevy, the same tail light bulb still works after 70 years….

I really hope Ford figures out how to make these products last longer than the warranty. I get they make more on service, but come on already.

I ended up getting the esp with light coverage a few months ago. This forum sure helps point out some of the issues these trucks have.
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