ECU module programming guide using FDRS

[Ajzride]

Update - The bypassing of the Ford.com login screen was because I had another window open with the Error screen from a previous login attempt. After closing all Error screens, I am back to being directed to the Ford.com login screen, but login attempts continue to result in the "Page not found" error screen.

Also just deleted browsing history, cookies, cache, etc from all internet browsers. Same result.

HELP! ?

Sometimes all you can do it wait for Ford to get their junk togther.

I've been using FDRS for almost 4 years now, I use similar software all the time at work. There are days it just wont log in for me. I wait 2-3 hours and it magically starts working.

I think a lot of the "solutions" posted on THMB (including some of mine) are really just pure conicidence that was the last thing someone did before Ford got their issues resolved. And even if other people can log in.. sometimes I cant. I think there is some kind of user/license/machien authorization sychronization that get messed up.

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[bassaway]

Sometimes all you can do it wait for Ford to get their junk togther.

I've been using FDRS for almost 4 years now, I use similar software all the time at work. There are days it just wont log in for me. I wait 2-3 hours and it magically starts working.

I think a lot of the "solutions" posted on THMB (including some of mine) are really just pure conicidence that was the last thing someone did before Ford got their issues resolved. And even if other people can log in.. sometimes I cant. I think there is some kind of user/license/machien authorization sychronization that get messed up.

Thanks for the reply! I think it is the Ford MFA (multi-factor authorization) which is messing me up...maybe.

Some suggested creating a new account on motorcraftservice which I did after trying EVERYTHING else and was able to successfully log into FDRS without issue. ?‍

 

[GDN]

Hey All - Unfortunately, I am experiencing the same issues User Lead Foot recently experienced with logging into FDRS. I have successfully logged into Ford.com and motorcraftservice.com using the same credentials, waited overnight after getting the error last night, and tried again this AM with the same result. Running with FDRS 44.4.7 logging in as "Independent Operator/Non-Dealer".

My first login attempt this AM brought me to the Ford.com login screen where I entered by correct credentials and moments later received the following error: "Error: Page not found. The requested URL was not found on this server."

Now when I hit "log in" on FDRS, I am immediately taken to the "Page not found" error screen and completely bypasses the Ford.com login screen.

2-day license is valid. All FDRS network diagnostics passes. Reinstalled FDRS. I even ran a Windows 11 update which was due. At a loss here folks! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Just a week back I had the similar problem. Support had me reinstall FDRS on top of the old one. Did not uninstall first. Then immediately reboot. Once the PC is up, then log in and make sure you don't use a cached credential. Worked perfect after that.

 

[volvofan94]

Quick question; I have all the supplies needed to do my first update session today, but found the battery voltage was fluctuating between 12.1 and 12.2v. I was using FORScan and the Mongoose Plus cable to check the voltage at the OBDII port before buying a FDRS license. I verified the fully charged voltage with a multimeter too and my battery charger. The battery charger was connected at the time the voltage readings were taken. Last night I fully charged the battery. It's a Motorcraft H8 battery, btw.

I didn't proceed with purchasing a license because of the lower than recommended battery voltage level. My question is, is the 12.5v reading taken when you have the battery charger connected to the truck and it's in "power supply mode?" Or do you confirm battery voltage before connecting the charger?

My battery charger doesn't have the power supply mode (it has maintain/charge and boost modes); I think I may be buying the charger mentioned in the first post.


Thanks!

 

[Ajzride]

Quick question; I have all the supplies needed to do my first update session today, but found the battery voltage was fluctuating between 12.1 and 12.2v. I was using FORScan and the Mongoose Plus cable to check the voltage at the OBDII port before buying a FDRS license. I verified the fully charged voltage with a multimeter too and my battery charger. The battery charger was connected at the time the voltage readings were taken. Last night I fully charged the battery. It's a Motorcraft H8 battery, btw.

I didn't proceed with purchasing a license because of the lower than recommended battery voltage level. My question is, is the 12.5v reading taken when you have the battery charger connected to the truck and it's in "power supply mode?" Or do you confirm battery voltage before connecting the charger?

My battery charger doesn't have the power supply mode (it has maintain/charge and boost modes); I think I may be buying the charger mentioned in the first post.


Thanks!

You would be okay to do any udpate except a PSCM, IPMA, or IPC. For those three you would need the charger with supply mode.

 

[digitaltrucker]

I have a battery question that goes to this post. It is well noted that your battery must be a certain voltage in order for OTA updates to complete. I understand that online AGM battery charts will tell us the status of our battery. For instance, my Motorcraft H6 has a 12.2 volt charge and according to charts, this indicates that my battery has about a 60% capacity charge.

Our BMS system on these trucks only charge to 80% of the battery's capabilities, right?

Having said that, it really does me no good to charge this battery to a higher voltage because the BMS will not maintain the higher manual charge, right? Therefore it will never do OTA updates because of the current low battery capacity.

Educate me here please.

 

[rugedraw]

I have a battery question that goes to this post. It is well noted that your battery must be a certain voltage in order for OTA updates to complete. I understand that online AGM battery charts will tell us the status of our battery. For instance, my Motorcraft H6 has a 12.2 volt charge and according to charts, this indicates that my battery has about a 60% capacity charge.

Our BMS system on these trucks only charge to 80% of the battery's capabilities, right?

Having said that, it really does me no good to charge this battery to a higher voltage because the BMS will not maintain the higher manual charge, right? Therefore it will never do OTA updates because of the current low battery capacity.

Educate me here please.

The OTA looks for state of charge, capacity and voltage. The criteria for all three must be met before the OTA will attempt to install.

 

[Snakebitten]

Our BMS system on these trucks only charge to 80% of the battery's capabilities, right?

Not exactly.

It's true that the factory battery charging strategy can become anemic, so to speak, once the proprietary algorithm considers the SOC to be 80% or above. But there are lots of things that the vehicle owner can do to "enhance" the SOC higher.

Ford has improved the battery charging strategy over the past few years, so it's important to have a more recent version of the BMS software. At least up to the last year or so?

Also, with Forscan it is argued that you can increase the target SOC to a higher value than the original Asbuilt values are set at.

One of the easiest and effortless methods to override the BMS charging voltage is to set the HVAC fan speed to 5 or higher. (I use this technique to "top off" my LFP Auxiliary battery on occasion. Works marvelously)

And if you have a Powerboost with an auxiliary battery and you aren't afraid to take matters into your own hands, swap the little auxiliary AGM for a cheap Chinese LFP and be done with the concern of a low SOC 12V buss.

 

[TJSparky]

Looks like a new BCM and TRM just dropped.

I had the BCM applied that originally required a username and password from the dealer. It appears to be another one requiring a username and password.

 

[farmtruckman]

Looks like a new BCM and TRM just dropped.

I had the BCM applied that originally required a username and password from the dealer. It appears to be another one requiring a username and password.

My 2021 truck also got the BCM and TRM update.

 

[rugedraw]

Looks like a new BCM and TRM just dropped.

I had the BCM applied that originally required a username and password from the dealer. It appears to be another one requiring a username and password.

Yup. No soup for me.

 

[jfalat]

Will the ford VCM 3 load info faster then the mongoose interface.. I had a impa update on one of our 22 shop trucks and it came up in the notes to use this for faster performance. On a side note I was about 2 hours into this update and my laptop shut off. This really messed up the truck. All check engine lights on. Going to have to try this update tomorrow…what a pain.

 

[rugedraw]

Will the ford VCI 3 load info faster then the mongoose interface.. I had a impa update on one of our 22 shop trucks and it came up in the notes to use this for faster performance. On a side note I was about 2 hours into this update and my laptop shut off. This really messed up the truck. All check engine lights on. Going to have to try this update tomorrow…what a pain.

Yes, the VCM3 is faster than a Mongoose.

You will need to run a PMI of the IPMA. When FDRS asks you if it is the original module, select no. That will recover the IPMA and update it at the same time.

 

[jfalat]

Yes, the VCM3 is faster than a Mongoose.

You will need to run a PMI of the IPMA. When FDRS asks you if it is the original module, select no. That will recover the IPMA and update it at the same time.

Thanks rugedraw…really appreciate the help..looks like it’s time for the shop to purchase a new VCM3.

 

[svtzx2]

VCM 3 will do an IPMA in 45min to an hour. Might be quicker doing a PMI.

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