ECU module programming guide using FDRS

[Big Dog Daddy]

Job2 2022 here

First time to plug it into FDRS since there wasn't any updates available but the TRM brake controller (TSB) that has been sitting there since the truck was on the choochoo train from the factory.

But then today a GWM popped up! (and an ABS)
I'm not waiting on THAT!

I think I read that it's described as "little", but in my mind no GWM is insignificant. There's something Ford is trying to accomplish when they mess with that module. Also, it's >150megs. Have you seen 150megs of code scrolled on a screen?

I do have one question that I haven't seen asked here yet. A couple of days ago quite a few folks mentioned that when they went to enter their truck for the first time Wednesday, their truck engaged the electric emergency brake. We all heard it because it engaged before you could sit down and close the door.

No way is that a coincidence. Too unique and too many trucks on the same morning.

So..... Is it reasonable to believe that the trucks involved ALL were communicated with by the mothership and the evidence of whatever was attempted or achieved was the instant the truck powered up the emergency brake engagement command was initiated?

Another way to ask the same question is wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that Ford can intentionally or unintentionally communicate with a truck and carry out some sequence of instructions and it NOT be an OTA update? But rather some test they are running using the OTA infrastructure?

This stuff is fascinating.

You now have me wondering as to why my parking brake engaged in the driveway the other night. That was the night I received the second ota update. It also installed at 5:30 pm EST.

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[JIMFOUNTAIN]

This stuff is fascinating.

More like frightening. How comfortable are you that Ford won't mess with something? Or how possible is it that someone hacks Ford and gains access to take control. Brake. Accelerate. What ever....

So how this plays out really ugly... Cruising along... Phone rings... Call is from Unknown. "Hello." Doors unlock then lock. Windows all go up. Voice on the phone states "Paypal $$$$ or we will disable your brakes and accelerate you to 100 MPH. Or Bluecruise you into a bridge support. Or ...

 

[Mike G]

So I should start at the top of the list and work my way down or do some in order?

I'd probably start with the PCM and then work my way down. That actually seems to be in the order I'd likely do them. I like leaving USB updates for last.

Have fun!

Mike

 

[BHunted1]

FYI! Little heads up regarding recalls/updates done by you.
The recall will not go away if you do it yourself. TRM is a good example.
my dealer will not run the recall to show it is done. They said they will not take rrsponsibility because I did it.
Spoke to Ford techs for 2 hours because dealer told me to call them and have them do it. They can’t and said they have no way to do it. So being shuffled around for hours pist me off big time.

They had the truck for n oil change, repair-tech ran a report that showed modules were all up to date.
Yet dealer would not clear recall.
I’m ready to go to war. Told them to fook it, leave to recall there. I got the print out the tech gave me all was good.
Pist me off cause they wanted truck for whole day and did nothing to clear recalls. Since Nov 2021, they’ve had my truck for many hours and days! Mostly wasted time.

I’ve spent days, hours from the day the mothership effed it up. Fixed what they did not know how to do.
The TRM took me longer to get my cables to do. 5 mins!

So if anyone knows how to clear recalls (or doesn't care about recalls), let us know. It may depreciate your resale value. You’ll lose big bux in todays market.

 

[Snakebitten]

No offense, but if when I go to sell or trade, I'm not one bit concerned about a trailer brake controller recall showing as not completed.

The 2018 that I traded in for the 2021 Platinum Powerboost was negotiated before the dealership put it on any scanner. I think it had 3 recalls that I had never addressed because..... Well, I didn't let them touch it for things that didn't worry me.
Door latch recall
B-pillar carpet recall
Transmission gear selector clip recall (verified myself it was installed properly from the factory)

I get your frustration with the dealership. I am avoiding them like the plague. But I'm not mentioning words like forum, internet, YouTube, FDRS to anyone at a dealership.

I'm just a simple Ole naive truck customer.

 

[Shoebox72069]

Anyone have access to OASIS?

Looks like plenty of Job 1 2021 getting OTA but I haven't seen one, and been had opening I'd finally see something now.

Is there something on Fords end for a black list? Not sure if I somehow ended up on some list after the 1.7.1 snafus.

Id prefer to get some OTA to know that "works again".

 

[Kanuck]

I'd probably start with the PCM and then work my way down. That actually seems to be in the order I'd likely do them. I like leaving USB updates for last.

Have fun!

Mike

Thanks Mike...my first go at it and I have all weekend.

 

[Paul Neubauer]

More like frightening. How comfortable are you that Ford won't mess with something? Or how possible is it that someone hacks Ford and gains access to take control. Brake. Accelerate. What ever....

So how this plays out really ugly... Cruising along... Phone rings... Call is from Unknown. "Hello." Doors unlock then lock. Windows all go up. Voice on the phone states "Paypal $$$$ or we will disable your brakes and accelerate you to 100 MPH. Or Bluecruise you into a bridge support. Or ...

Sounds like I am about to be a star in a made for TV movie! I'm so EXCITED!!!

 

[Demps]

Sounds like I am about to be a star in a made for TV movie! I'm so EXCITED!!!

Don't get too excited. Just Ford finally figuring out how to test new software. Fortunately for me I have a 2021 Job 1 truck. Not a reliable OTA test subject. And we'll be the first to know of future updates, like ebrake setting if I get close to the truck. Or lighting up in the so I don't trip in the dark.

Looking forward to getting trouble free OTA updates, even if not useful.

 

[Mike G]

FYI! Little heads up regarding recalls/updates done by you.
The recall will not go away if you do it yourself. TRM is a good example.
my dealer will not run the recall to show it is done. They said they will not take rrsponsibility because I did it.
Spoke to Ford techs for 2 hours because dealer told me to call them and have them do it. They can’t and said they have no way to do it. So being shuffled around for hours pist me off big time.

They had the truck for n oil change, repair-tech ran a report that showed modules were all up to date.
Yet dealer would not clear recall.
I’m ready to go to war. Told them to fook it, leave to recall there. I got the print out the tech gave me all was good.
Pist me off cause they wanted truck for whole day and did nothing to clear recalls. Since Nov 2021, they’ve had my truck for many hours and days! Mostly wasted time.

I’ve spent days, hours from the day the mothership effed it up. Fixed what they did not know how to do.
The TRM took me longer to get my cables to do. 5 mins!

So if anyone knows how to clear recalls (or doesn't care about recalls), let us know. It may depreciate your resale value. You’ll lose big bux in todays market.

So on the TPMS recall for the F-150 Lightning that's supposed to be updated by an OTA. Or the HVJB "welded contactor" recall that updates 5 different modules by an OTA on Mach-Es...Ford must have a plan for determining that the recall has been performed so at corporate they can clear the recall... Cause there was no requirement to go to the dealer for those. And my Lightning still shows it hasn't been done yet, even though because of multiple programming events I've actually updated my truck twice to cover what the recall was going to accomplish with an over the air update.

At this point if they want to clear that recall notice they can have at it. Or not. My truck and my car are connected to Ford's cloud and they can tell if it meets the recall requirements since it's only software and not hardware that needed to be updated.

I don't have an adversarial relationship with my dealer's service manager and tech, but they still won't clear my truck until they can put the laptop on it. I think it's about getting paid as well as a bit of caution concerning liability. If they want the credit that's fine.

In your case I honestly don't understand that if they were so anal about that update then why didn't they just do a PMI to make sure the "proper" software got installed. Or just verify the software version was correct and take the credit for the update and get paid for doing the recall you'd already done.

At the end of the day..life is too short.

 

[BHunted1]

In your case I honestly don't understand that if they were so anal about that update then why didn't they just do a PMI to make sure the "proper" software got installed. Or just verify the software version was correct and take the credit for the update and get paid for doing the recall you'd already done.

At the end of the day..life is too short.

Exactly. He did run the fdrs and see they show no updates needed, up to day on the BC, TRM and were all ok. Yet, Oasis still shows recalls. They prob don't know how to run a pmi. He prob just did a network scan and seen all good. This paper is like gold now. Its the only proof I have of confirming they know.

The head dispatch queen still said no. She's a by the book biotch.
May end up filing a complaint with Ford but there goes any relations that I get along with there.

 

[Mike G]

Exactly. He did run the fdrs and see they show no updates needed, up to day on the BC, TRM and were all ok. Yet, Oasis still shows recalls. They prob don't know how to run a pmi. He prob just did a network scan and seen all good. This paper is like gold now. Its the only proof I have of confirming they know.

The head dispatch queen still said no. She's a by the book biotch.
May end up filing a complaint with Ford but there goes any relations that I get along with there.

Honestly I wouldn't worry about it at all.

My Mach-E went in for the glass recalls. I took it to Woody Anderson in Huntsville (huge dealer) cause my local dealer had no glass guy.

They saw that I had the HVJB contactor recall and the BlueCruise and CPS 21P22 field service actions and when I got it back I had to sign a form saying the recalls were complete. The service manager was explaining to me what they did and I then told him I'd done the BlueCruise, 21P22 and the HVJB recall myself. His response was "Our tech told me that this was the fastest BlueCruise update he'd ever done!" And we both laughed.

They cleared the FSAs and probably got credit/paid for doing them.

I'm with @Snakebitten on this one. If you're dealing with a service manager or tech like the one you have been it's probably best to just play it cagey and let them think they're the smart ones.

 

[Snakebitten]

You gotta realize that this sudden surge of customers being informed and saying words like FDRS outloud is a shock to their legacy system. And human nature is to feel threatened.

I'm not saying it is justified. But the whole industry has been protected by a veil between you and the service bay for decades. That sign at the door that says "No admittance beyond this point for insurance reasons" is now insufficient to protect them from prying eyes.

It's ironic that it is really FORD, the manufacturer, that is their adversary because the OTA model brings the service bay TO the truck, and FDRS enables you to be the virtual technician.

I see it as wonderful progress of technology.
They see it as a threat to their livelihood.

 

["Steve"]

do i still have apim pending, or did these last two OTAs this week push me passed that? i don't think they would. im up to 22192_product, revision 498 now, but don't see the wiki updated with that info yet. i did NOT get a 3.5.2 message, just the (2) 22-PU0707-SCH-POPB updates. 1FTFW1ED8MFB55506

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

3.5.2 is 22 trucks early builds that’s the gateway x you guys have to stop with the revisions. They have a million different trucks out here at this point and they all are different.

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