2024 King Ranch picked up from Granger Ford

[fatBatman]

Sorry to say I'm not impressed with electric miles you got. Maybe I'm missing the point of these hybrid vehicles but I'm staying with the tried and true ICE. Hope you enjoy your new vehicle, it is a good looking truck. Good luck.

I totally respect your comment. I was the same way and I am trying to give a semi-new technology a try. After all, without people like me willing to dip our proverbial toes in this pool of water, no one will spend the money to continue to develop this technology further and make it even better.
That said, I was impressed by the mileage. Sure it could be better but I think this thing is still breaking in and may continue to get slightly better. However, this trip was all highway and I really shouldn't have had any electric miles since hybrids make their money in city driving. One further note, the PowerBoosts all have 30 gallon fuel tanks. I filled up in Plano, TX before I started this trip and went down and back on a single trip and still have 81 miles remaining (according to the gauge cluster). From door to door (my house in Plano to where I went in San Antonio), it is 304 miles one-way or 608 miles roundtrip and I still have 81 miles remaining. That is nearly 700 miles on a gas burning engine. To me, that is impressive even with having a 30 gallon gas tank. To put it in perspective, my last truck was a 3.0 Duramax Chevy and the best I ever got from it was 731 miles on a 24 gallon fuel tank driving through the middle of the night from Dallas to Atlanta with no stop and go at all. I was very impressed by that trip as well but considering fuel costs for a diesel are significantly higher than the 87 octane I used on this trip, I'd say this PowerBoost performed better.

Even with all of the above said, I find no fault to anyone wanting to stick with a traditional ICE platform in their F150. It is incredibly difficult to find a flaw or major problem with any of their engines be it a 2.7, 3.5, or 5.0. All of them are proven to be extremely reliable and dependable engines. My former 2021 5.0 F150 was amazing and it is the memory of the joy of having that truck that made me get rid of my new 3.0 Chevy to crawl back into a Ford. I really loved that truck and this new one is winning me over just as quick.

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[fatBatman]

The redesigned tachometer is a major visual improvement.

The IPC is different looking, did they copy some of the super duty items into it as well

And going full electric at 70 mph...
Imo that seems weird.
But my dad's maverick will do the same thing, if road conditions warrant, like a slight down hill. Or drafting a bit off a semi

It is an improvement. I am not too familiar with the Super Duties display but from what I have seen, the tow/haul mode may be similar (but I'm not 100%). I will see if I can take a pic of the different drive modes and post. The HUD also changes with the drive modes and I think it was the tow/haul mode or offroad that changed the most but I can't remember so I'll try to post that as well.

And yeah, I really like the Maverick. They remind me of the mini-trucks from the late 80's and 90's. I'd actually like to have one but since I have a full sized truck, I don't know what the hell I'd do with it. I guess I could try to tune the little 2.0 like they did back in the day and make a 400 HP mini-truck out of it but then again, I have all kinds of other projects/toys wasting my time and money already.

 

[Deleted member 22196]

I totally respect your comment. I was the same way and I am trying to give a semi-new technology a try. After all, without people like me willing to dip our proverbial toes in this pool of water, no one will spend the money to continue to develop this technology further and make it even better.
That said, I was impressed by the mileage. Sure it could be better but I think this thing is still breaking in and may continue to get slightly better. However, this trip was all highway and I really shouldn't have had any electric miles since hybrids make their money in city driving. One further note, the PowerBoosts all have 30 gallon fuel tanks. I filled up in Plano, TX before I started this trip and went down and back on a single trip and still have 81 miles remaining (according to the gauge cluster). From door to door (my house in Plano to where I went in San Antonio), it is 304 miles one-way or 608 miles roundtrip and I still have 81 miles remaining. That is nearly 700 miles on a gas burning engine. To me, that is impressive even with having a 30 gallon gas tank. to put it in perspective, my last truck was a 3.0 Duramax Chevy and the best I ever got from it was 731 miles on a 24 gallon fuel tank driving through the middle of the night from Dallas to Atlanta with no stop and go at all. I was very impressed by that trip as well but considering fuel costs for a diesel are significantly higher than the 87 octane I used on this trip, I'd say this PowerBoost performed better.

Even with all of the above said, I find no fault to anyone wanting to stick with a traditional ICE platform in their F150. It is incredibly difficult to find a flaw or major problem with any of their engines be it a 2.7, 3.5, or 5.0. All of them are proven to be extremely reliable and dependable engines. My former 2021 5.0 F150 was amazing and it is the memory of the joy of having that truck that made me get rid of my new 3.0 Chevy to crawl back into a Ford. I really loved that truck and this new one is winning me over just as quick.

Well said. And thank you for being objective. My 24 Lariat has the 3.5 eco boost with a 36 gallon fuel tank. I travel between North Carolina Pennsylvania so on the first trip I will keep a good record of how the truck performs and will post it on here. That is of course whenever I get it.

 

[powerboatr]

I didn't even think of the HUD
I was trying to figure why the tach went away with bc on..seemed different

 

[HammaMan]

I just crawled under the truck to verify/check and it does still have a traditional flywheel starter and I'm not sure I have ever heard it being used even on cold start-ups. Maybe those start-ups did use it but if it did, that thing is uber quiet. Driving down the road and in city driving, it uses the traction motor. You can feel it when it engages and starts the engine but it isn't intrusive or annoying. There have been times when I haven't felt it at all and looked down and saw a trip full of electric miles and had no clue that it wasn't all engine.

Id say for the software tuning and integration, they have gotten the traction motor and the engine to sing very well together. For me at least, I have to pay close attention to realize it is is transitioning between electric and gas.

You will hear the flywheel starter, sounds just like your average ecoboost starting. I've long suspected the traction motor will start the truck when parked and on. It will rock the truck a bit when it fires off in the manner you'd expect a 35kW motor to do so. I've had more than one passenger comment about how it fires up when stopped. It's not some big V8/V10, it's a little V6 and to rock a 3 ton vehicle says there's a bit more going on than a normal start.

The only time my truck has used the flywheel starter is low 12v batt which doesn't really make much sense given the HVB always has plenty of juice in it to fire off the traction motor. Low 12v batt is literally the perfect time to fallback on the HV system with an entirely redundant starting system. Open the isolator, power up the DC/DC converter feeding the truck 14v clean, fire the ICE and bring the starting battery back into the fold closing the isolator.

 

[fatBatman]

I didn't even think of the HUD
I was trying to figure why the tach went away with bc on..seemed different

Here are all of the displays and HUD screens. All pics were taken while starting the truck and sitting in the garage. More stuff like mileage will illuminate but I'm unsure if anything else will. I do not have an FX4 truck so I don't have Mud/Ruts but I would expect it to be the same as the "Offroad" drive mode. The Eco is a shade of light green and the leaf icon is illuminated. Normal is blue, Sport is more red with the 4-Auto icon lit up, and Slippery is a lighter blue also with the 4-Auto icon showing. The Tow/Haul mode changes the screen to display trailer information and moves the tachometer. I do not know what it shows since I haven't hooked up a trailer or even assigned a trailer in the truck yet. Offroad mode changes the screen again and displays pitch and roll and moves the tachometer to the same place as in Tow/Haul and replaces it with a compass. One thing I thought was pretty cool is at the bottom of the compass, it shows the elevation. I don't know exactly what that purpose is for but now I want to load it on an airplane just to see what it says.

As for the HUD displays, the Sport, Eco, Slippery, and Normal are all the same. The Tow/Haul displays the tach. Again, this may also show more information once a trailer is hooked up. The Offroad mode showed pitch and roll, tach, rear differential (locked or unlocked), and whether you're in 4-Low or 4-High.
I gotta say, I like HUD info. Being a pilot, it kinda reminds me of flying with G1000 glass cockpits. It's not really similar but it still reminds me nonetheless. Lastly, when driving with Blue Cruise, the blue steering wheel comes up on the HUD too. I'll see if I can get a pic of that on my next outing but it may be a couple of days before I'm back in Blue Cruise territory.

 

[powerboatr]

Here are all of the displays and HUD screens. All pics were taken while starting the truck and sitting in the garage. More stuff like mileage will illuminate but I'm unsure if anything else will. I do not have an FX4 truck so I don't have Mud/Ruts but I would expect it to be the same as the "Offroad" drive mode. The Eco is a shade of light green and the leaf icon is illuminated. Normal is blue, Sport is more red with the 4-Auto icon lit up, and Slippery is a lighter blue also with the 4-Auto icon showing. The Tow/Haul mode changes the screen to display trailer information and moves the tachometer. I do not know what it shows since I haven't hooked up a trailer or even assigned a trailer in the truck yet. Offroad mode changes the screen again and displays pitch and roll and moves the tachometer to the same place as in Tow/Haul and replaces it with a compass. One thing I thought was pretty cool is at the bottom of the compass, it shows the elevation. I don't know exactly what that purpose is for but now I want to load it on an airplane just to see what it says.

As for the HUD displays, the Sport, Eco, Slippery, and Normal are all the same. The Tow/Haul displays the tach. Again, this may also show more information once a trailer is hooked up. The Offroad mode showed pitch and roll, tach, rear differential (locked or unlocked), and whether you're in 4-Low or 4-High.
I gotta say, I like HUD info. Being a pilot, it kinda reminds me of flying with G1000 glass cockpits. It's not really similar but it still reminds me nonetheless. Lastly, when driving with Blue Cruise, the blue steering wheel comes up on the HUD too. I'll see if I can get a pic of that on my next outing but it may be a couple of days before I'm back in Blue Cruise territory.

thank you
that 3rd screen with the slider tach and compass is nice looking
its sharing some of the super duty,
there is a whole lot going on in those screens
AWESOME
thank you for sharing

 

[F150Guy]

So I picked up my new truck from Granger this past Monday. I saw that the weather for Monday in the DFW area was supposed to be raining with clouds so I decided to forego the eclipse and make the drive to Iowa. As it turns out, the clouds parted and I missed the once in a lifetime view of the eclipse from my own backyard under the totality BUT my sacrifice didn't go without it's own rewards.

First, I'll start by saying that if you don't order and buy from Granger, it must be because you hate money. It's simple deductive reasoning. At nearly 50 y/o, I have bought over 30 new vehicles and have learned to HATE every car dealer on the planet. Granger, specifically Chip and Shelby changed all of that. After this past experience, I will never buy another vehicle from another dealer ever. As many have said before, the pricing was figured out when I made the order and nothing changed. When it came to financing, I had a few dumb questions and Shelby answered all of them and by the time I made it up to Iowa, I was only at the dealership for about an hour and most of that time was slowed down by me asking more dumb questions. One thing I did notice though, damn near their entire lot is completely full of ordered vehicles just waiting on people to come pick up their new hot rods. Yeah, there were a lot of F150's but there were a ton of Broncos, Mustangs, Explorers, and everything else Ford makes. They don't really have a service department to speak of and are more geared to sell cars and trucks to internet customers or at least that was my impression. Overall though, there is absolutely no logical reason why any normal customer in the USA should order from any other dealer...ever. I purposefully excluded Ford employee's from this because I am unfamiliar with the X, Y, Z, or any of the other alphabet discounts. I am the "average consumer".

After I left, I set the Blue Cruise and was blown away. This was truly hands free and felt kinda weird at first. This isn't the normal lane keeping adaptive cruise control where you apply a little weight to the steering wheel and it feels like hands free. This is completely hands free. If you find yourself doing highway drives often, then this is the thing for you and I'd recommend the subscription. If you're mainly a city driver, enjoy the 90-day free trial and let it go. As for fuel economy, it is a new PowerBoost. I'm sure it was learning it's fuel mapping and shift points or where to put the cam phasers. Afterall, it only had 12 miles when I picked it up and that was with the added miles for a factory bedliner. Still, with Blue Cruise (I know it uses the adaptive cruise control), it got low 17 MPG in the beginning (75 MPH) and settled in at around 19 MPG by the time I reached Kansas City's Embassy Suites at the airport (I'm a Hilton guy and it's probably one of the worst Embassy Suites I've been to and they have no idea how to make an omelet). On day 2, I woke and went to the WWI museum in Kansas City (pretty awesome) and then went to Jack Stack BBQ - Freight House and had the best BBQ outside of Texas. If you say (insert you're own brand) BBQ is better than Texas BBQ, then you need to get checked for drugs and fix yourself. That's all I'll say about that. Afterwards, I continued back to the DFW area. I stopped for dinner and fuel in Muskogee, OK and was getting mid 20 MPG before I filled up. When I did get fuel, I got 91 octane. For dinner, I stopped at Hamlin's El Toro Mexican Restaurant. Do not ever go to this restaurant. It was terrible. They say they make everything from scratch and it baffles the mind how they made good ingredients taste as bad as they do but somehow they managed. They said their salsa was a secret recipe and that was probably the best thing I could hear because you don't want this getting out. Further down the road though, I arrived back home with a bump up to 21.9 MPG with just over 800 miles on the clock. The next day, I took the truck to get the windows tinted (last pic).

To make a long story short, I am happy to crawl under the truck to take pics or provide any updates for what comes on a King Ranch since not many 2024's have been released to the wild yet. I will say that the fuses are only pushed halfway in so that is still something that you have to check. My undercoating is great. There are absolutely no issues with the undercarriage. The CCD suspension rides like a cloud and with the massaging seats, it makes you want to start planning your next road trip. Mine also has the "Smart Hitch" and "Onboard Scales" but being a Job 1 truck, I do not have the PAT (I don't really want it either). The only unexpected bummer was that the King Ranch does not come with a camera for the bed (CHMSL camera). Also, I saw another thread somewhere that someone claimed that Ford doesn't use General Tires. Well, I have the 22" wheels and I have them.

With the fuel economy getting better and better the more I drive, I am happy. The other night I drove it to get sushi and out of a 9.4 mile total trip, 4.1 of those miles was electric. This is one of the main reasons you get a PowerBoost and now that I have it all cleaned up after the drive home (no pics of that yet), it's absolutely gorgeous. I couldn't be happier.

Nice looking truck, FatBatman. Enjoy!

 

[lrb_35128]

One thing I thought was pretty cool is at the bottom of the compass, it shows the elevation. I don't know exactly what that purpose is for but now I want to load it on an airplane just to see what it says.

IF the compass & elevation were presented on the towing screen, I'd say it would be relevant to altitude's impact on power (and therefore towing ability). Not willing to hazard a guess for off-roading.

So, have you run FORSCAN on your new truck (or) are the numeric temperatures on the display OEM?

 

[fatBatman]

IF the compass & elevation were presented on the towing screen, I'd say it would be relevant to altitude's impact on power (and therefore towing ability). Not willing to hazard a guess for off-roading.

So, have you run FORSCAN on your new truck (or) are the numeric temperatures on the display OEM?

I do not have FORScan. All of those were settings in the display setup menu.

 

[Granger Ford]

The pic below was my timeline. Aside from one exception, it stayed true. My original production date was March 6 and in early February, I got shifted back one week. On March 26, I called Chip at Granger and as luck would have it, he was sitting in my truck when I called to confirm it had arrived. This timeline includes having a factory bedliner sprayed in.

As for PCO, if it is valid, you will get it. My PCO said I needed to either order a 2024 or take delivery of dealer stock by April 2nd. Obviously, I ordered before April 2nd and when I spoke with Shelby (financing at Granger), I specifically asked about this. I had also confirmed it with Ford Marketing sometime in February when I called their 1-800 number. They were able to look up my order number and see all available offers including the PCO. I don't know if I had to give them my PCO number or not but they confirmed it was attached to my order number.

Needless to say, unless you have a special Ford employee discount code, Granger will be the cheapest dealership to buy a new Ford truck from anywhere in America even without a PCO. That said, I see you are Air Force, I doubt you can combine your $500 military rebate with your PCO. I couldn't and had to choose one or the other. I chose the PCO.

At the end of the day, if you want a new Ford, call them back...unless you hate your money. If you are lucky and it arrives in a short time like mine did, great. If you were told correctly and it will take 6-9 months to get your new truck, that's even better because it will be at the end of the year and you will get all of the end of year financing incentives and likely more $$$ off in rebates. I had to wait to take delivery (personal reasons) otherwise I'd have had my truck nearly 2 weeks ago. Luckily, during my wait, Ford changed their incentives and offered a slightly better rate that I was able to take advantage of. In short, sometimes waiting isn't a bad thing.

I am happy to hear everything has gone smoothly! Thank you for your trust and business!

 

[powerboatr]

IF the compass & elevation were presented on the towing screen, I'd say it would be relevant to altitude's impact on power (and therefore towing ability). Not willing to hazard a guess for off-roading.

So, have you run FORSCAN on your new truck (or) are the numeric temperatures on the display OEM?

That's a great catch. I sm so used to numbers on my gauges, I forget it was forscs

I do not have FORScan. All of those were settings in the display setup menu.

That is great, ford was listening..
Super duties I have seen do far are numerically engaged as well.
There is hope yet the engineers are listening ?
Your are rapidly becoming a great wealth of knowledge on the 24

 

[Jeff F]

Great review -- I was interested if the gas milage had improved -- it sounds very good for a truck or many cars for that matter. I'm no hybrid expert but I think at highway speeds the electric assists the gas motor. It's never electric alone on the highway. When you're leaving the garage or poking around town you can be on full electric but not for long.
Also, the pictures of the heads up display were great. I was wondering what that would look like. Thanks!

 

[BarryT82]

I placed an order this week. At what point did they assign a VIN?

 

[jp1450]

MPG Update: I made a little trip to San Antonio from the DFW area and back yesterday and on the second leg of the trip (San Antonio to Dallas nonstop), it averaged 24.4 MPG. I'd say it has settled in very nicely and has broken itself in very well compared to the 16-17 MPG I was getting when I drove it off the lot. If anything, this proves that there is still a "break in" period. The owners manual mentions this break-in but is very short in it's paragraph and only mentions avoiding high speeds, heavy braking, aggressive shifting, and towing for the first 1000 miles. Still, for this heavy truck to be getting over 41 electric miles out of a 267 mile trip is crazy to me. That means just over 15% of a trip from San Antonio to Dallas was made without burning a single drop of fuel.

To be fully transparent, this MPG was achieved whilst pissing off many, many people as I was going 71 MPH (the speed limit on Texas Interstates is 75 or greater depending on the highway). Going around Austin on the toll road seemed to save some time going to San Antonio but the stop and go traffic through Austin on the way back yielded a significant fuel savings which resulted in the bulk of the 41.2 electric miles being from there. Still, occasionally, I would look down during Blue Cruise along the highway and see that the number of electric miles has increased. This means that while traveling at 71 MPH, the engine still cut off for short periods and I never noticed when the truck restarted the engine. This means that the transition from gas to electric and back really is that smooth. At slower speeds, you can tell but only if you're really paying attention and watching your tachometer. During Blue Cruise, your tach disappears so you have no idea how many RPMs the engine is or is not producing.

When I got back and pulled into my garage, I looked at the exhaust pipe. It was cleaner on the inside than it was on the outside and I just shined the truck up before the trip. Being a child of the 80's and always touching things to enable learning from my mistakes, I touched the inside of the exhaust pipe and it was warm but not even close to burning my fingers (fingerprints can be seen in the pics of the exhaust pipe). My only guess to why I didn't burn all of the skin from my fingers is because the heat exchanger on the exhaust that is used for the batteries really does work and pulls away most of the heat. As for the cleanliness of the inside of the exhaust pipe, Queen Greta Thunberg would be proud (although I don't think that girl could ever be happy).

On another note, I haven't posted a single picture or made any comments about the interior. That said, I will soon but a spoiler, I have spent just over 1400 miles in less than a week in this truck and I can say, my comments will not be those made by an unhappy customer.

Phillip - Thanks for all of the great info. I don't know if you have already mentioned this somewhere else, but I was wondering if your truck came with the protective felt diaper or similar cover underneath the engine/transmission. I have looked at a few 2024s on the lot, and noticed that they did not have it. Maybe something new for the 2024s? I was thinking about putting an aluminum transmission/cat cover on mine when I get it.

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