2024 King Ranch picked up from Granger Ford

[superfordman]

Great review and great looking truck! Small world, was at the exact same Jack Stacks a few months ago and it was pretty dang good.

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[Snakebitten]

I know a picture under the hood that I would LOVE to see. You won't necessarily be able to get a great shot, but you will be able to discern if your truck even has the BISG (Belt integrated starter)
Rumors are that the 2024 Powerboost doesn't have one. That Ford used software magic to no longer need it.

And without it, the 3.5 Ecoboost in your Powerboost only has one belt since only the water pump would be spun by the crankshaft.

This is what you are looking for, if you don't mind: (the yellow component. And if it's not there, neither would the beefy green belt tensioner)

If Ford put an electric water pump on the Powerboost, the ICE literally would have no need for the crank pully. No belts.

Oh, and nice truck regardless of what you discover.

 

[fatBatman]

I know a picture under the hood that I would LOVE to see. You won't necessarily be able to get a great shot, but you will be able to discern if your truck even has the BISG (Belt integrated starter)
Rumors are that the 2024 Powerboost doesn't have one. That Ford used software magic to no longer need it.

And without it, the 3.5 Ecoboost in your Powerboost only has one belt since only the water pump would be spun by the crankshaft.

This is what you are looking for, if you don't mind: (the yellow component. And if it's not there, neither would the beefy green belt tensioner)

If Ford put an electric water pump on the Powerboost, the ICE literally would have no need for the crank pully. No belts.

Oh, and nice truck regardless of what you discover.

You're right! This is not an easy picture to get and I did the best I could considering the time of day (but this is the exact thing that will make me get out of bed to investigate). All of these pics are from underneath, looking up. In the second pic, you can see the ribs on the crank pully where a belt should be closest to the engine. The 3rd pic clearly shows only 1 belt attached from the crank to the water pump so I would say that your rumor was correct.

On a side note, in the second pic, near the blue sticker that says "4" near the crank pully, you can see more of that damn black masking tape. Another piece is in the same pic at the bottom on the wiring harness. They sure don't do a good job of cleaning up after themselves at the factory.

 

[fatBatman]

I contacted Granger last week about ordering a King Ranch and was told that it would be 6-9 months before it would come in. I asked about locking in my PCO with an order and they said that they don’t do that.

The pic below was my timeline. Aside from one exception, it stayed true. My original production date was March 6 and in early February, I got shifted back one week. On March 26, I called Chip at Granger and as luck would have it, he was sitting in my truck when I called to confirm it had arrived. This timeline includes having a factory bedliner sprayed in.

As for PCO, if it is valid, you will get it. My PCO said I needed to either order a 2024 or take delivery of dealer stock by April 2nd. Obviously, I ordered before April 2nd and when I spoke with Shelby (financing at Granger), I specifically asked about this. I had also confirmed it with Ford Marketing sometime in February when I called their 1-800 number. They were able to look up my order number and see all available offers including the PCO. I don't know if I had to give them my PCO number or not but they confirmed it was attached to my order number.

Needless to say, unless you have a special Ford employee discount code, Granger will be the cheapest dealership to buy a new Ford truck from anywhere in America even without a PCO. That said, I see you are Air Force, I doubt you can combine your $500 military rebate with your PCO. I couldn't and had to choose one or the other. I chose the PCO.

At the end of the day, if you want a new Ford, call them back...unless you hate your money. If you are lucky and it arrives in a short time like mine did, great. If you were told correctly and it will take 6-9 months to get your new truck, that's even better because it will be at the end of the year and you will get all of the end of year financing incentives and likely more $$$ off in rebates. I had to wait to take delivery (personal reasons) otherwise I'd have had my truck nearly 2 weeks ago. Luckily, during my wait, Ford changed their incentives and offered a slightly better rate that I was able to take advantage of. In short, sometimes waiting isn't a bad thing.

 

[fatBatman]

No more engine covers I guess. Or just off for cleaning/pictures?

Gone but it still has the studs in the front and the little gray clips in the back. Maybe this was done for heat or possibly even to help allow any moisture to evaporate more easily. Who knows?

I had helped a friend replace his coil packs when he hit 38K miles and he thought they went bad because they got wet or something like that...I'm not really too sure but it was a really easy job. His 2021 EcoBoost had an engine cover but my new PowerBoost does not. I'm okay with it. To me, the real engine cover is the hood.

 

[Snakebitten]

Wow!
First class research service.

Thanks.

I know that on the 2024 that the traditional bendix/flywheel starter is going to be used far more often than it is in the BISG equipped Powerboost, but that shouldn't be a concern since every ICE that has auto stop/start has been using the 12V starter for years.
But what I suspect allowed Ford to nix the BISG is one, they weren't using it as a BISG, but rather just a BIS. It was never in generator mode because the truck has a DC/DC converter. And second, I guess they tweaked the programming for the traction motor clutching enough to be satisfied with starting ICE by turning the crank with it?
Can't wait to see the documentation on this change.
Your 2024 has one more component failure that can't happen to it.

A faulty BISG has left a few fellas stranded and needing a Tow. Others have experienced various intermittent issues that were frustrating and sometimes difficult to narrow down to the BISG.

Again thanks for confirming.

 

[astrand1]

Anything specific? The bottom of the hood and engine bay are painted in a flat black. I found this odd since I've seen several colored trucks with white engine compartments but this is my first flat black. It's cool I guess but I didn't remove the water spots.

I will say, I removed about 57 lbs. (+/-) of both regular and black masking tape from under the hood. I guess they left it there during assembly and there was a large rubber band from the hood latch stretched to under the radiator reservoir.

Looks like they got rid of the engine cover that says “powerboost” guess that must be weight savings. ?

 

[BarryT82]

The pic below was my timeline. Aside from one exception, it stayed true. My original production date was March 6 and in early February, I got shifted back one week. On March 26, I called Chip at Granger and as luck would have it, he was sitting in my truck when I called to confirm it had arrived. This timeline includes having a factory bedliner sprayed in.

As for PCO, if it is valid, you will get it. My PCO said I needed to either order a 2024 or take delivery of dealer stock by April 2nd. Obviously, I ordered before April 2nd and when I spoke with Shelby (financing at Granger), I specifically asked about this. I had also confirmed it with Ford Marketing sometime in February when I called their 1-800 number. They were able to look up my order number and see all available offers including the PCO. I don't know if I had to give them my PCO number or not but they confirmed it was attached to my order number.

Needless to say, unless you have a special Ford employee discount code, Granger will be the cheapest dealership to buy a new Ford truck from anywhere in America even without a PCO. That said, I see you are Air Force, I doubt you can combine your $500 military rebate with your PCO. I couldn't and had to choose one or the other. I chose the PCO.

At the end of the day, if you want a new Ford, call them back...unless you hate your money. If you are lucky and it arrives in a short time like mine did, great. If you were told correctly and it will take 6-9 months to get your new truck, that's even better because it will be at the end of the year and you will get all of the end of year financing incentives and likely more $$$ off in rebates. I had to wait to take delivery (personal reasons) otherwise I'd have had my truck nearly 2 weeks ago. Luckily, during my wait, Ford changed their incentives and offered a slightly better rate that I was able to take advantage of. In short, sometimes waiting isn't a bad thing.

Thanks. I’m looking to order a King Ranch because it’s basically a platinum and $6k cheaper. I’m not a fan of the two tone paint, but for $6k I’ll learn to love it. On my last truck order I was able to combine the military offer and PCO. I can get a plan discount code from a relative that works at the factory, but it looks like the pricing is similar.

 

[Dakar09]

Gorgeous truck and great recap of the trip back! And I agree about that Embassy Suites in KC. I've stayed there for work a few times in the past and never liked it, but being a Hilton guy myself, I used it for points.

Enjoy the ride!

 

[JExpedition07]

Looks like they got rid of the engine cover that says “powerboost” guess that must be weight savings. ?

They could at least say “hybrid” or something on the air cleaner cover like how the 5.0L says “V8” on it. They’d achieve the same weight savings! I guess you all ready have a badge on the door for PB, Ford must figure that’s all they are willing to spend on badging lol. I noticed Ford also eliminated the “EcoBoost” exterior badge for 2.7 trucks. Every penny counts apparently, even when you raise msrp by several thousand

 

[F-yea!]

Can't thank you enough, FatBatman, for all the details and perspectives. Also agree with ordering from Granger. They are 8K less expensive than four dealers in the Boston area I collected quotes for a Platinum Plus. Good to know about the tape and other stuff that may be left on the truck. Wishing you plenty long and safe drives in your KR.

 

[rgeorge]

Beautiful truck. I have a KR ordered through Chip as well. Thanks for sharing all this. I’m assuming you didn’t get the PAT - is that right? Also, just to confirm, other Than the PAT possibly, heated steering, multicontour seats, etc. were all there and not deleted? And how do you like the HUD? Thanks again.

 

[uk_brewer]

Love hearing that people are still having the same great experience with a purchase through Granger that I had.

 

[Deleted member 22196]

Very beautiful looking truck. Best of luck with it. I'm still waiting on my 24 Lariat to arrive. It was supposed to be shipped on 10 April, but have had no additional update on delivery date. Wish I was closer to Granger Ford, (I'm in North Carolina) I would have given them a try and maybe would have gotten a better price. If and when I get mine picked up I will post some pictures also.

 

[HammaMan]

But what I suspect allowed Ford to nix the BISG is one, they weren't using it as a BISG, but rather just a BIS. It was never in generator mode because the truck has a DC/DC converter. And second, I guess they tweaked the programming for the traction motor clutching enough to be satisfied with starting ICE by turning the crank with it?

It's like it was designed to be able to bypass the HV system entirely and they just never implemented the bypass logic by keeping the clutch fully engaged and instead got a less reliable product. Then they decided to delete the bypass parts they never used.

Curious how highway operate is handled. Have to wait for convoy PB local and go drive it.

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