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Jesse believes that unless you have nav the speed signs will timeout.
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I agree with his assessment. My assumption is that if fusion is working properly, it will switch to the nav value if the speed sign value times out.
 
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Unfortunately, no dice after changing the IPC settings. Basically, I mirrored the settings of a '23 XLT 302a with CoPilot Assist 2.0 and made the necessary changes for my truck not having adaptive cruise control. Unless there is an additional value that needs to be changed that I have not found, it does not seem possible to use both the speed sign recognition and nav speed limit info using the fusion option on trucks without CoPilot Assist 2.0.
 
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Below is what worked for me. My truck is a ‘22 302A that has the navigation and Sirius XM delete. If you don’t have a trailer tow package your 720-03-02 value may be different due to the “Trailer Sway” setting. C was the correct value for me (Max Tow) as it kept all of the factory settings the same and only changed TSR enabled. I did not find the TSR IOD setting at 720-03-01 to have any impact on the function of the traffic sign recognition so I omitted changing that line. For 720-09-01, even though you don’t have 360 cams there’s still a forward facing camera behind the windshield (rear view mirror area), that’s what’s used for the speed sign recognition and the forward collision warning.

IPC
720-09-01 xxxx xxxx 9x--
720-03-02 xxCx xx--

APIM
7D0-09-02 xxxx x5xx xD--

IPMA
706-01-01 xx4x xxxx xx--
706-02-01 5xxx xxxx xx--

Also, seeing as you don’t have Nav, if you’re using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto and want to see the turn by turn info in your gauge cluster, you can make the below changes:

720-05-01 xxxx x1xx xx—
720-10-01 xxxx xx4x xx—

My ‘21 with Nav had this feature and I wanted it back. Most probably don’t know what they’re missing, but coming from a ‘21 it was immediately obvious to me.

After some reading I think im going to skip the attempt at enabing the Sign Recognition due to the lack of navigation. With that said do you think the turn by turn changes will still work if I just change those two values?

720-05-01 xxxx x1xx xx—
720-10-01 xxxx xx4x xx—
 

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After some reading I think im going to skip the attempt at enabing the Sign Recognition due to the lack of navigation. With that said do you think the turn by turn changes will still work if I just change those two values?

720-05-01 xxxx x1xx xx—
720-10-01 xxxx xx4x xx—
Yup! I actually made those changes first before figuring out the speed sign recognition.
 

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Yup! I actually made those changes first before figuring out the speed sign recognition.
Nice! Are these generic for all trucks or should I look deeper in the spreadsheet to make sure the values are proper for my configuration?
 

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Nice! Are these generic for all trucks or should I look deeper in the spreadsheet to make sure the values are proper for my configuration?
It should be pretty generic for all trucks. I’ve cross referenced it with a few different trims and a Raptor was different for 720-10-01 so higher trims may be slightly different but they typically have considerate prompts already enabled.
 

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Jesse believes that unless you have nav the speed signs will timeout.
My truck doesn't have Nav, at least active, since I never signed up for Navigation. Yet it shows speed limit signs, and they don't go away. It doesn't show speed limit on really back water roads.
 

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My truck doesn't have Nav, at least active, since I never signed up for Navigation. Yet it shows speed limit signs, and they don't go away. It doesn't show speed limit on really back water roads.
Are you sure that it is reading speed signs and not using the stored speed values from the navigation maps?
 

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Are you sure that it is reading speed signs and not using the stored speed values from the navigation maps?
I don't know how it's doing what it's doing. Just know the speed limit sign in the dash changes when I pass a speed limit sign on the sign. I know I never signed on to Ford's navigation program. I still use my Garmin 660 RV navigation program.
 

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I don't know how it's doing what it's doing. Just know the speed limit sign in the dash changes when I pass a speed limit sign on the sign. I know I never signed on to Ford's navigation program. I still use my Garmin 660 RV navigation program.
Based on what your saying, it sounds like it is using the speed limit data stored in your maps. Where I live, I noticed that what showed on the IPC was incorrect more often than I liked. I switched to the speed sign recognition which solved that problem, but the speed limit information now disappears completely if a speed sign isn't recognized for a certain period of time.
 
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Yup! I actually made those changes first before figuring out the speed sign recognition.
Thanks for the encouragement. Last night I got the TBT with carplay to work. There is an option on the dummy mode of forscan so I didn't even have to manually change ASBUILT code. I tried the Sign recognition because there are also choices in the dummy mode. Couldn't get it to work even after enabling 4 choices on 3 different modules. I just reverted it back and will tinker with it another time. I did notice one thing that I was wondering if you know what it could be. Under the APIM is a choice for "Navigation Repeater in Cluster Setting" I did not enable it because I used "Turn by turn navigation" in the IPC module. Any insight about what the cluster setting would enable?
 

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Has anyone got this fully working on an XL with upgraded cluster?

I have a 23 STX and upgraded to an 8" cluster. I am able to get the signs to show up on the IPC but it only shows what the camera identifies, it does not pull anything from the nav. I have factory nav that displays the speed limit as well, If I enable the TSR settings on my APIM I then lose the speed limit within the nav screen. I have tried both Fusion and Camera only settings in the IPMA. Is there a way to get them both working together and have the nav speed info displayed in the IPC?
 

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If there is, I havent been able to figure it out. Mine is currently set to speed sign recognition only as I find that to be more useful than the navigation values.
 
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That's a bummer. The sign timing out and dropping off the IPC is annoying but I guess it's better than nothing. My previous two cars displayed the speed from the GPS 24/7.
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