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My issue is the inconsistent rake levels. I was walking through a dealer lot and trucks parked next to each other had tailgates that were 2 inches higher.
Does wheelbase length make the difference?
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Mine's like OP's, and I am going to pull the 1" blocks from the rear suspension. That leaves still about a 1.5"+ rake. Which for me will be fine, as I have a small camper and WD hitch that will keep things level when towing. (I have towed it with much worse vehicles, and when properly adjusted and loaded a WD hitch should keep your tow vehicle squatting the same front/rear - at least thats what the instructions in mine state and my experience).
 

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Zero difference in rake with the FX4
Bags, why we can't have bags, I'll never understand. Unless you factor in greed/profit. Even my 2004 Yukon Denali had bags. Under load, up she goes! The rake of the 150's is ridiculous. My last truck didn't have FX4, new one does. It seems like I have a taller rake, but I'll take your word for it. I've never measured or compared the two. Just sucks to lift the front just so it levels with the back, when airbags in the back would solve all the problems.
 

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Old trucks built only to do truck things, did not have rake from the factory.
With massively stiffer rear springs. Gen 14 rear leafs are like 250 lb/in. My mother in law could level it out.

They went with light springs and high rake for better ride quality. Clearly this was a controversial decision.
 

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With massively stiffer rear springs. Gen 14 rear leafs are like 250 lb/in. My mother in law could level it out.

They went with light springs and high rake for better ride quality. Clearly this was a controversial decision.
The mother in law catching strays! ?
 

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I'm not sure why you bought a truck if you did not expect it to be a truck. My 1961 Chevy Apache 10 is level, with coil springs on the back end. You can put 750 lbs back there and it looks like it is dragging its tail and the front is about to launch at 45 degrees. As a bonus, it still rides like a truck. You put 1,000 lbs in my 21 F150 and it looks level and rides relatively well. So I guess it depends on what you might want your truck to do. Mine is all hat and no cattle. I go to Home Depot and buy a few plants and three or four bags of mulch and it does not even look like it is working. It is a compromise, but I still want a truck. I realize its limitations.

What do you use the truck for? Ford is thinking it is a truck. Chevy, GMC, and Ram are thinking the same way. Only now are they responding to using trucks more like an automobile, yet they still ride like trucks.

It is either a work truck that can haul a few extra passengers or a play truck. Mine is basically a play truck, since I could haul three bags of mulch and a few plants in my GMC Terrain, and enjoy a more comfortable ride and easier parking.

Someone somewhere mentioned air bags on a truck. Good in theory, but it is still a truck. Air bags are something that can easily go wrong if used as a truck. I have a 23 GMC Yukon Denali XL with Magnarides and an airbag suspension. I'm not hauling lumber. I am hauling two asses and luggage in comfort around the country. While my F150 could do it as well, it would need about 750 lbs in the rear of the truck to calm the ride down, and it would still not be as quiet and comfortable as my Yukon.

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With massively stiffer rear springs. Gen 14 rear leafs are like 250 lb/in. My mother in law could level it out.

They went with light springs and high rake for better ride quality. Clearly this was a controversial decision.
A 1 1/4 block to raise the back end doesn't do anything to change the leaf spring bottoming out stiffness.

If it did, they'd put the blocks on 2 sheel drives too.
 

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I'm not sure why you bought a truck if you did not expect it to be a truck. My 1961 Chevy Apache 10 is level, with coil springs on the back end. You can put 750 lbs back there and it looks like it is dragging its tail and the front is about to launch at 45 degrees. As a bonus, it still rides like a truck. You put 1,000 lbs in my 21 F150 and it looks level and rides relatively well. So I guess it depends on what you might want your truck to do. Mine is all hat and no cattle. I go to Home Depot and buy a few plants and three or four bags of mulch and it does not even look like it is working. It is a compromise, but I still want a truck. I realize its limitations.

What do you use the truck for? Ford is thinking it is a truck. Chevy, GMC, and Ram are thinking the same way. Only now are they responding to using trucks more like an automobile, yet they still ride like trucks.

It is either a work truck that can haul a few extra passengers or a play truck. Mine is basically a play truck, since I could haul three bags of mulch and a few plants in my GMC Terrain, and enjoy a more comfortable ride and easier parking.

Someone somewhere mentioned air bags on a truck. Good in theory, but it is still a truck. Air bags are something that can easily go wrong if used as a truck. I have a 23 GMC Yukon Denali XL with Magnarides and an airbag suspension. I'm not hauling lumber. I am hauling two asses and luggage in comfort around the country. While my F150 could do it as well, it would need about 750 lbs in the rear of the truck to calm the ride down, and it would still not be as quiet and comfortable as my Yukon.

Life's a bitch, and then............
Take a breath friend… he just asked a question…
 

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Mr Grammar police, what is 2 sheel drive? Seems you like to point out peoples typos. Oh no you make them too!
 

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Bags, why we can't have bags, I'll never understand. Unless you factor in greed/profit. Even my 2004 Yukon Denali had bags. Under load, up she goes! The rake of the 150's is ridiculous. My last truck didn't have FX4, new one does. It seems like I have a taller rake, but I'll take your word for it. I've never measured or compared the two. Just sucks to lift the front just so it levels with the back, when airbags in the back would solve all the problems.
my point is this. The FX4 package doesn’t come with different springs. The shocks are the same length, they are just slightly differ valved.

Now an Ecoboost and a Powerboost that are similarly equipped may set differently. Just as a 5.0
 

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Mr Grammar police, what is 2 sheel drive? Seems you like to point out peoples typos. Oh no you make them too!
Are you talking to me?

To my knowledge, I've never had an interaction with you, let alone one grammar related. Refresh my memory.
 
 







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