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[Snakebitten]

I totally agree, whatever changed in the charging system software after the latest pcm/bcm updates has made vast improvements in charging performance.

First, as happy as I am to see Ford addressing the 3 year issue, it absolutely confirms that Ford knew that the charging strategy wasn't sufficient. So....... Why does it take 3 years?
I mean for the individual truck owner it has been only as co$tly as the time invested in getting the warranty claim, OR the co$t of just purchasing a new battery.

But the cost to Ford?
It's gotta be in the million$
Not to mention the cost of diminished goodwill with the customers.

I can't imagine a company being so big and lethargic that it takes 3 years to get from identifying an issue and editing the code to fix it. That's mind boggling.

And although I have no proof of this, the 2024 F150 was the 4th vehicle release that was held up for deliveries for "undisclosed" quality concerns. I personally believe that the battery management software was a fundamental part of the halt. The timing is a perfect fit.

The Maverick was held up for "software"
The Escape/Corsair was held for software.
The Super Duty was held up for whatever. I never heard exactly.

That's 4 very similar events that seem tactical. Are we witnessing an internal Ford battle between departments to force results?

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[Big Dog Daddy]

@Snakebitten
The behemoth moves very slowly, I'd bet it took a year and a half just to recognize the charging issue then figure out what the fix would be and on which vehicles, then internal and external approvals of the proposed changes, does it change our café average and such. Finally write and test the general release software. Ya, 3 years seems about right. If technology companies worked like this they'd be out of business before they started.

Intentionally or not, Ford has really created a lot of ill will with there most loyal customers, and they don't seem to care how badly they destroy there reputation.

Look at this axle bolt issue, there's guys that are afraid to put there family in the truck and tow there trailer off for vacation. And that's a dam shame.

But again, problem investigation, engineering solutions, testing of the solutions, approval after approval, final approval of replacements, manufacturing and distribution of replacements. Letters to owners. They just can't move fast enough. And now first quarter of 25 if all goes right. The behemoth moves slowly,! ?

 

[Snakebitten]

I still don't know why I would forgo a family vacation over the sheared bolt concern.

I admit that it might be a potential inconvenience, but so would lots of different kinds of things that can happen to any vehicle.

 

[Atlee]

I still don't know why I would forgo a family vacation over the sheared bolt concern.

I admit that it might be a potential inconvenience, but so would lots of different kinds of things that can happen to any vehicle.

Also, remember one poster who parked his PB for over a year waiting for the replacement wiper motor, to fix the wiper motor recall. I never that move either.

Question for you. Do you think it would have been possible to just replace the 3/4 float axle and rear end with the tried and true semi float axle and rear end used with the regular tow package and call it a day?

 

[Samson16]

I admit that it might be a potential inconvenience, but so would lots of different kinds of things that can happen to any vehicle.

Windshield wiper motor failure comes to mind

 

[Samson16]

Also, remember one poster who parked his PB for over a year waiting for the replacement wiper motor, to fix the wiper motor recall. I never that move either.
You beat me to it ?

 

[Ricksc]

When I bought my 22 they told me can’t take it home because of wiper motor recall. 2 days later they called said come do a fake contract, we will get part faster. Did that next day part was in.

 

[Snakebitten]

Question for you. Do you think it would have been possible to just replace the 3/4 float axle and rear end with the tried and true semi float axle and rear end used with the regular tow package and call it a day?

I honestly don't know how expensive just swapping a different axle might be, but after experiencing a sheared bolt and the repair procedure involved, I'm a lot less concerned. It's really not nearly as big a deal as our imagination can make it seem. And for whatever reason, there's almost no reports of new cases.

I know it's too early to make any claims, but I don't think mine is likely to reoccur. But worse case scenario, I'll shear one and get it replaced with whatever the 2024's have now.

 

[Big Dog Daddy]

I still don't know why I would forgo a family vacation over the sheared bolt concern.

I admit that it might be a potential inconvenience, but so would lots of different kinds of things that can happen to any vehicle.

Oh, I agree. But so many people have zero understanding of mechanical things and are unable to access the risk of the situation.
A couple of years ago the SRS light popped on my wife's car, so I called the dealer to schedule an appointment. The young man said to me, "OK we'll send a flatbed to pickup the car". I told him "not needed". He said "but you don't have airbags, what if something happens". I told him "I'll be alright for my first 30 years of driving I never had airbags, and besides I don't use them every day either." He was floored that I'd even consider driving it.

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