Payload Hit compared to EB

[Kanuck]

The Powerboost gets a 300lb GVW bump to accommodate the Hybrid gear. So there's not really a significant difference in final cargo capacity apples/apples.
There's a Ford document that lists curb weight penalties for each option. If you are diligent, you can get pretty close on the estimate.
But the post from @EricR above is a fantastic example of avoiding the biggest Payload hits that there is.

He didn't list the tailgate steps, but that's a hefty hit too. So is a spray in bedliner, surprisingly.

I did a search on line and found this PDF file listing plus and minus on truck weight per option. I took a quick look and it seems to be what your talking about. See attached file.

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[Snakebitten]

I did a search on line and found this PDF file listing plus and minus on truck weight per option. I took a quick look and it seems to be what your talking about. See attached file.

That's a fantastic document for figuring weights of each option! However, I caution that the document appears to be using the GVW of the F150 HDPP truck as the starting point for calculating final Payload.
So use it to identify the weight of each option, but use the starting curb weight and GVW of the specific truck that you are ordering, rather than the HDPP truck in the document.
By the way, I completely agree with the document using the HDPP F150 since it is specifically aimed at slide-in camper customers and the HDPP F150 is the ONLY F150 that is a legitimate platform for heavy slide-ins.

Thanks for attaching that document!

I will attach the document that I use for predicting Cargo Capacity with starting curb weights and Cargo Capacity for each F150 build regarding trim and cab configuration.

 

[SteveP150]

I'm wondering why larger wheels/tires would qualify as a hit to payload. They are unsprung weight.

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm wondering why larger wheels/tires would qualify as a hit to payload. They are unsprung weight.

You are correct in my opinion, but curb weight is curb weight, so technically it counts.
But in "physics" I would have to agree with you.

I just tell myself that I KNOW what that yellow sticker actually represents. And I have my own personal threshold for what decisions I am going to make regarding it when towing.
For example, I chose NOT to have Ford's sprayin bed liner because it is a 45lb hit on the sticker. ??
But I am going to have a sprayin bed liner after delivery. So I KNOW I have used that 45lbs, but it's not accounted for on the door jamb.

By the way, I ordered the 6.5' bed. I think most would be surprised that the extra foot length of the trucks wheelbase and bed is only 21 lbs! Well worth the option in weight penalty if you ask me.

 

[dmac]

I have 1665 Payload on my Powerboost 4x4. It's possible...

My parents have a Platinum powerboost - 20" tires with the 33" hankooks & 1398 payload. It feels noticeably slower than mine.

Option for option, though I think the 3.5 eco will be faster, get same highway mileage and have more payload/towing. I got mine for the city mileage, generator, locker, max cooling, outlets, ect that all come standard, so I could drop FX4, tow, and a couple other packages.

 

[imnuts]

Sorry for the dumb question, but how does having the max towing package decrease your payload? I always just assumed it would raise you GCVW (or whatever it is) allowing you more payload.

Max Tow adds some components to help the truck handle heavier trailers, but doesn't change the weight rating of the truck. The items added take away from the payload.

 

[My 2ND Ford]

21 Platinum super crew w/ 6.5 ft bed. No moonroof, no FX4 package. It has the power boards and tailgate step with Fords spray in liner and I have a 1752 payload. Not a powerboost. I don't understand why others have such a lower payload unless the moonroof and FX4 packages weigh more than posted.

 

[chill_will]

Fully loaded platinum PB. 1378. Mainly got for power, generator, hay hauling, and occasional towing. Kinda wished i cut a few options out but it’s our main family vehicle so the luxuries are nice to have.

 

[guppydriver]

Max Tow adds some components to help the truck handle heavier trailers, but doesn't change the weight rating of the truck. The items added take away from the payload.

Thanks!!

Am I the only one who us having a hard time figuring out where the value is in the max tow package when buying a PB? I can see it gives you an electronic locker and ratio upgrade and bigger gas tank in some packages, but with the hybrid you get the 3.73 e-locker standard with the motor, so what the heck are you getting???

 

[DBL R]

Thanks!!

Am I the only one who us having a hard time figuring out where the value is in the max tow package when buying a PB? I can see it gives you an electronic locker and ratio upgrade and bigger gas tank in some packages, but with the hybrid you get the 3.73 e-locker standard with the motor, so what the heck are you getting???

Pb already comes with electric locker, 3.73 gears. You can’t get the larger fuel tank on the PB as the battery takes up the extra space.

for max tow with a PB you get the beefier bumper, extra leaf in suspension and less payload.

which due to the already low payload of the PB that reduction in payload will actually cause a reduction in total towing capacity.

best option for PB and towing is the trailer tow package. Actual increased tow capacity without big payload hit.

 

[guppydriver]

Pb already comes with electric locker, 3.73 gears. You can’t get the larger fuel tank on the PB as the battery takes up the extra space.

for max tow with a PB you get the beefier bumper, extra leaf in suspension and less payload.

which due to the already low payload of the PB that reduction in payload will actually cause a reduction in total towing capacity.

best option for PB and towing is the trailer tow package. Actual increased tow capacity without big payload hit.

Wow. Thanks for the info. That seems like a lot of money for a beefier bumper and a slightly stronger suspension. If I do the EB, I'll go for the max tow, if I do the PB, looks like the trailer tow package. Should be ordering with Granger tomorrow or Friday.

 

[Snakebitten]

Max Tow adds some components to help the truck handle heavier trailers, but doesn't change the weight rating of the truck. The items added take away from the payload.

It's not much, but max tow is listed as adding 21 lbs to the curb weight and thus reducing Cargo Capacity by the same.

 

[guppydriver]

It's not much, but max tow is listed as adding 21 lbs to the curb weight and thus reducing Cargo Capacity by the same.

I've had dumps that weigh more....

That being said, for me it's the cost more than weight although the extra 21 pounds is nice. I just don't see much value considering what the PB already comes with. Just a stronger bumper really.

I do see it makes you add the 20 inch wheels when you get the Max Tow though

 

[EricR]

21 Platinum super crew w/ 6.5 ft bed. No moonroof, no FX4 package. It has the power boards and tailgate step with Fords spray in liner and I have a 1752 payload. Not a powerboost. I don't understand why others have such a lower payload unless the moonroof and FX4 packages weigh more than posted.

The PB has the added weight of the electric motor and battery.

 

[Mash150]

This is so weird. Nearly all of the payloads I‘ve seen in the posts are higher than mine for similar trucks. Can’t see the seats adding that much additional weight and the pano roof only adds are 65 lbs.

And this is before the spray in bed liner and hard quad fold Ford tonneau cover and other smaller items such as full weathertech floor mats , ww liners , mud flaps and hood protector. Not only that, its only a 2.4 generator as well. So before adding payload, I’m down around 1200. The door yellow sticker confirms the payload at 1320.

 

[imnuts]

for max tow with a PB you get the beefier bumper, extra leaf in suspension and less payload.

I'm pretty sure the Powerboost has the extra leaf spring already. You wish get larger rear brakes with Max Tow. Upgraded cooling is part of the package on other engines, but standard on the PB.

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