Maximizing regenerative breaking... tips?

[TheGoatman]

This makes me regret not getting the ACC. I always hated it but I guess it makes sense on the hybrid

Don’t lose sleep over it

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[ThyDayWalker]

This makes me regret not getting the ACC. I always hated it but I guess it makes sense on the hybrid

Don't worry about it, the amount of times I can use acc I'd maybe.... 10-20% of my normal drive? I drive a lot of roads without proper road lines, barely any traffic and/or tow... It's nice to use it but I wouldn't consider it an essential feature by any means.

 

[RocketFistMooga]

In My View, you need to use the Hybrid Coach mode. When braking there is a little box outline. The trick is to keep the brake force meter just inside the box. I routinely get 99% on my trips so long as I don't have to jump on the brakes to avoid an idiot on the highway.

And we all know they are everywhere and always appear unexpectedly.

Is it really true that when braking the traditional brakes are not engaging as long as you stay in green? Has this been proven or is an assumption? If true we will get incredible life out of the traditional disc brakes

 

[ThyDayWalker]

Is it really true that when braking the traditional brakes are not engaging as long as you stay in green? Has this been proven or is an assumption? If true we will get incredible life out of the traditional disc brakes

I would like to know this as well! I like adding benefits to the hybrid platform

 

[Oxford_Powerboost]

Is it really true that when braking the traditional brakes are not engaging as long as you stay in green? Has this been proven or is an assumption? If true we will get incredible life out of the traditional disc brakes

As far as I know that’s true. Not sure how to test it. Might get the temp gun out and see how much, if any, the brakes heat up in a “green only” stop.

Then I’ll put it in slippery mode to eliminate regen and see what the difference is

 

[RocketFistMooga]

As far as I know that’s true. Not sure how to test it. Might get the temp gun out and see how much, if any, the brakes heat up in a “green only” stop.

Then I’ll put it in slippery mode to eliminate regen and see what the difference is

that is a really good idea. If you do so please update us with the results. Also did know know that slippery mode changed the regen braking characteristics. Fascinating.

 

[thebigdu]

If you have the Eco Coach turned on in all modes, the green tracker on the speedometer indicates ideal acceleration as well as braking. If you slow down "too quickly", the green tracker will stay "above" the speed indicator. Try it out...

 

[DANJENS]

If you have the Eco Coach turned on in all modes, the green tracker on the speedometer indicates ideal acceleration as well as braking. If you slow down "too quickly", the green tracker will stay "above" the speed indicator. Try it out...

I always find the speedometer indicator misleading. I can brake really hard and the only thing it does is the green fades as I brake. At the same time the bar on the bottom jumps into the white. Accelerating, I can get a fair amount of boost going and it will still stay pretty much in the middle of the green. I know if I am accelerating with a fair amount of boost I am not economic.

Anyone else notice this?

I will say I get a lot more braking out of the regenerative braking for this truck than I did with my 2020 Hybrid Fusion.

 

[Calson]

No difference than for any other vehicle. The regen braking is used to add charge to the battery bank but the gain is trivial. Driving at the speed limit, rolling to a stop, accellerating at a moderate pace (neither slow nor fast) and anticipating the road and other drivers will help a great deal.

Big rig drivers can get 10 mpg with the same tractor and trailers as other drivers get 6-8 mpg and the difference is entirely how the driver manages their rig. The 10 mpg drivers reduce fuel costs by more than 20% and this is a very big deal.

 

[darioa]

Did you not understand what he/she was saying

I'm looking for a post where someone had software hooked up to the truck and watched the hybrid system and how it would charge up, regen brake, etc. I think they'd said that braking up until the threshold of going into white braking was the best and then let it coast. I'll try to post it here if I could find it but I know it was somewhere in the hybrid section.

I use a FIXD ODB2 adapter to monitor the hybrid battery charge level. When the level is close to 70% the vehicle no longer uses regenerative braking and just the white bar shows up. As you use the battery and the charge diminishes you can again use regenerative braking until the level reaches 70%. I wish Ford would increase the range at which the electric motor kicks in (41% - 70% in my truck).

 

[hussar1683]

I use a FIXD ODB2 adapter to monitor the hybrid battery charge level. When the level is close to 70% the vehicle no longer uses regenerative braking and just the white bar shows up. As you use the battery and the charge diminishes you can again use regenerative braking until the level reaches 70%. I wish Ford would increase the range at which the electric motor kicks in (41% - 70% in my truck).

I think this limitation is there to maximize longevity of the battery

 

[PatchManager]

Sorry, you're right! English is not my first language... hopefully my tru k doesn't care about misspelling lol!

I think you would find that there are many where English is their first language and would spell it wrong too. I wish I knew a second language as well as you know English.

 

[jeepin95]

I do wish there was an option to allow braking like the ACC brakes. It seems that with ACC enabled the majority of the braking is regenerative and it either is able to apply that harder, or it shifts down to provide more braking power. While I haven't tried manual shift mode, I have not found any way to regen brake as hard as the ACC is able to. One of these days I may try manual mode just to see if that is the major difference. I'm certain that I could get better MPG than ACC in moderate traffic by looking further than the car in front of me, especially when accelerating.

My wife's Subaru lets you set how aggressive ACC is at accelerating to and maintaining speed but I haven't found a similar setting on the F150. Often ACC does a good job of regen stopping, only to accelerate hard enough for the ICE to kick in. If I were manually accelerating I would be able to see further ahead and realize that I don't need to and could just idle in electric mode a few seconds longer before braking again.

 

[21F150_208]

I would like to know this as well! I like adding benefits to the hybrid platform

The dealer told me as long as you're inside the hydrid coach box, regen is reducing speed, not the brakes.

 

[DBL R]

I don’t have the owners manual in front of me, but I’m fairly certain there is a section that discusses light to moderate load input for braking will cause regenerative braking to reduce vehicle speed and when higher load braking is required then the mechanical brakes begin to activate, correlating with green vs white on eco coach.

it’s also why when in 4x4 or 4a white will appear first (via eco coach) for a few seconds then it changes to green, as the system assumes a non-solid driving surface and applies mechanical braking first so if slippage (abs activation) occurs it will reduce the likelihood of a skidding out event as regen braking does not have similar anti skid features.

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