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The seats in 21 and newer F-150s suck. XL, STX, XLT, and Lariat all suck. KR and Platinum are better but not great. The most common complaint is the center of the seat is too soft and bolsters too hard giving the feeling of sitting on a bucket. I added foam under the seat of my 22 and it helped a bit but was never great. Funny enough Ford just announced a contract extension for their seat supplier.

For my new 2025 I went a different direction. The F-250 has the same type of seat as the F-150 since 2023. The part number for the F-250 driver seat foam is PC3Z-15632A23-A. This foam is both denser and firmer and around 1/2" larger in every direction including thickness. It reminds me of the foam that was in the seat of my 2018. For whatever reason the seat foam used in the F-150 since 2021 is full of porosity and other cavities and just doesn't seem like a high quality piece. The seat in my 6-month old truck had a huge void in the foam as shown below. The process to swap it out is as follows.

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If you have a power seat, unbolt it first but DO NOT unplug it. Disconnect the battery before unplugging the seat. Get it out of the truck and pull the side over off. There's one screw up front and one in the rear. Disconnect the plug for the adjustment buttons and set it aside.



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Unbolt this metal bracket with two screws. Getting it out of the way gives you more room.

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Pull on the clips holding the cushion and upholstery to the frame. They kind of roll off. Work your way around and get the ones at the rear of the seat undone as well.

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Pull the cushion up and out of the seat frame. If you have a heated seat you'll need to disconnect the plug for that. You can carefully peel off your heating element and transfer it to the new foam.

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Roll the upholstery off the foam. Part is held in by velcro and part by the plastic rods clipped into the foam. It's self-explanatory to get them out, just use a screwdriver or pick to pop them out. Note the voids already visible.

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Get the upholstery off and you can look to see how bad the F-150 foam is. This truck is only 6 months old and has never had anything spilled. That weird area is porosity and voids. Those areas are all over the foam but this is the worst part. I've seen a few others over the last few years and they all had areas like this.

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F-150 foam on the left, F-250 foam on the right.

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Same again. The original F-150 foam on the left sure doesn't look like something that should go into a $50K or more vehicle.

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F-250 foam is 1 1/4' thick in the center to the rib.

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F-150 foam is around 3/4" to the same place. Again more voids in the foam.

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I was using two layers of foam previously. When I put the new cushion in I only re-used the blue layer. Up to you if you want to do this, it just adds a bit of plushness. When replacing the upholstery, lay it on the foam inside out. Start in the center and clip it in going outwards. Get the velcro in place and roll the fabric over the edges. Reinstall as you took apart.

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Finished product. Ignore the scratches, the power seat in my STX came from a junkyard. This is a MUCH more comfortable end product.



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I can say from a rear in tye seat type feel
My 22 kr f150 seats with massage were pretty comfy afyer 10 hrs
But my 2024 kr f250 with massage
Are a step up in comfort on long drives
I never knew the seat foam was different
But thats an interesting discovery
Also ..my 21 f250 lariat without massage were much better than the 22 f150
Imo they feel wider...even though its the same size seat.
 

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I remember looking at the f150 lariat vs platinum trying to figure out which was better. I had a Titan before and it was so comfortable! I think the 24 lariat seats are ok. My fat booty has broken in the driver seat pretty well.
 

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How much you weigh cuz?
195-210 depending on the season. Everyone that's been in the front seats for more than 30 minutes hates them. This forum is chock full of complaints since this gen rolled out.
 

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No issues with the ‘24 XLT seats here
I’m 5’11” and 225

Maybe I’m just not paying attention but honestly, this is the first seat complaint thread that I’ve seen or remember in the last year
 

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My seats in my 23 have no wear and are very comfortable after ~2 years and 20k miles. 6’ 160lbs here.

I wonder if the 22’s suffered from covid supply issues and didn’t get the same foam or something. Regardless I’m sorry to hear you’ve had comfort issues!
 
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I've never found the seats uncomfortable in any Ford truck I've had since 2011. I'm an average height average weight guy though.
The seats in my 2018 were great. The 22 was awful and this 25 was just as bad. Quite literally feels like you're falling into a hole and the bolsters are all that's holding you up. I sit in the seat around 3 hours per day commuting so it's needed to have something comfortable.
 

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My seats in my 23 have no wear and are very comfortable after ~2 years and 20k miles. 6’ 160lbs here.

I wonder if the 22’s suffered from covid supply issues and didn’t get the same foam or something. Regardless I’m sorry to hear you’ve had comfort issues!
What's ridiculous is the foam in my 25 looks the same as my 22 did. Full of voids and areas where it almost looks like the foam didn't fully expand into the mold.
 

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F-150 Raptor here….. have the RECAROS and they are the most comfortable seat I have ever had in any vehicle!
 

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Nice information. Thanks for posting all this!
 

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195-210 depending on the season. Everyone that's been in the front seats for more than 30 minutes hates them. This forum is chock full of complaints since this gen rolled out.
I come from sedans and crossovers with generally firmer, small seats. I love my Lariat seats. No comfort issues over 3-4 hour drives. I asked my wife should we take her Explorer or my F-150 on a 4-hour trip and she said hands down the F-150. Seats are so comfortable. And my brother, who owns a Sierra Denali, got in the first time and said man I wish GM would fix their hard seats.
 

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No complaints with a '25 XLT. 6'3", 305#. I should note, the drive home from picking it up was just under 7 hours.
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