First camper stupid questions

[Chris GTO TT]

I would also double check the hitch and WDH requirements for your truck. My Max Tow truck has a sticker tow capacity of 14,000 lbs but the load capacity of the factory hitch is much less than that - go figure. If I was going to tow a 14,000 lb trailer load I would need to replace the factory hitch. Actually at that load weight I would go with a F-350.

What are you trying to say here? The factory Max Tow Package receiver is rated for 14klbs towing but anything more than 500lbs hitch weight (usually around 5000lb trailer) requires a weight distribution system. You don't have to remove the receiver on your truck and put another one on it.

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[JExpedition07]

Curious where you found that page you posted in the initial post

 

[mdn14]

Curious where you found that page you posted in the initial post

looks like the towing calculator on fords website (not in the app)

 

[m_bt54]

Curious where you found that page you posted in the initial post

-Logged into ford.com
-Went to menu, then my account, vehicle dashboard
-Scrolled down to quick links section and it was one of the options

I did it on my phone. Could be slightly different on the desktop site.

 

[Davexxxx]

It's not doing that. 1385-500-50-50 is 785 left for tongue weight not 700. It was possible to order the trailer brake controller, and pro backup assist without having either tow package and without either tow package the truck is limited to 7000. The sticky at the top of this sub forum explains what's in the trailer tow package and the Max Tow Package. Based on the specs he provided he should be okay but on the upper end of what his truck is rated for. I tend to be conservative when it comes to towing, others throw caution into the wind. I for one am grateful he's asking the right questions before buying.

This is simply not true.

On a PB, max tow adds ~20lbs to curb weight, further hurting the already limited payload, which is the real limiter.

To the OP. You're on the right track with your questions. Study the tow guides and don't forget the footnotes.

They'll give you the proper advice on when to use a WDH and your maximum GCVWR. But with that PL, which is now even less, due to any gear, or mods you've added since purchase, be real careful about the size trailer you buy.

 

[lrb_35128]

Two additional considerations for the equation; "headroom" and elevation.

General advice is to not max out your weight. Leaving a little headroom (10-25% depending upon who you ask) aids in preventing overworking (overheating) driveline components -and- makes climbing hills easier. - Not to say you can't fill/load to 100%. Just in doing so, you have other things to watch/manage. (It's all about trade-offs.)

When figuring where you plan to haul your RV, keep altitude in mind. As listed in the Ford Towing Guide, your capacity diminishes as your elevation increases...

On a related note, as a first time RV hauler, I would highly recommend both weight distro and anti-sway.

 

[Chris GTO TT]

This is simply not true.

On a PB, max tow adds ~20lbs to curb weight, further hurting the already limited payload, which is the real limiter.

To the OP. You're on the right track with your questions. Study the tow guides and don't forget the footnotes.

They'll give you the proper advice on when to use a WDH and your maximum GCVWR. But with that PL, which is now even less, due to any gear, or mods you've added since purchase, be real careful about the size trailer you buy.

What isn't true? The numbers in my post are from his entry into the Ford towing calculator. If he had the trailer tow package or max tow package the calculator would show something different than just 7000lbs.

 

[Davexxxx]

What isn't true? The numbers in my post are from his entry into the Ford towing calculator. If he had the trailer tow package or max tow package the calculator would show something different than just 7000lbs.

This,

" without having either tow package and without either tow package the truck is limited to 7000. "

Is not true.

 

[Gord0]

What isn't true? The numbers in my post are from his entry into the Ford towing calculator. If he had the trailer tow package or max tow package the calculator would show something different than just 7000lbs.

Not true. I have the towing package, but not max tow. I but some false large numbers in the calculator for payload calculations and it says my max trailer weight is 2680lbs. It takes into account what you have for available payload after all additional weight and estimates the trailer weight you can haul from that

 

[Gord0]

Same calculator with less weight.

 

[Chris GTO TT]

This,

" without having either tow package and without either tow package the truck is limited to 7000. "

Is not true.

Yes it is true it's in Ford's calculators and the fleet towing guide.

Same calculator with less weight.

Exactly my point the OP had some numbers in the calculator image he posted. If you do the math with those numbers you see his 'leftover' payload capacity for tongue weight is more than 700lbs, so the calculator should have returned that higher number and higher towing capacity associated with a higher possible tongue weight. However it only returned 700lbs and 7000lbs even with lower numbers.

 

[Chris GTO TT]

Hopefully this screen shot works.

 

[Davexxxx]

Hopefully this screen shot works.

3.5L Hybrid, 3.73 RE, GCWR =17,100, 4x4 145.4 WB = 11,000.
If thats from the 23 manual, thats my truck. No tow package involved. Hence, your blanket statement of 7K without tow package is not true.

 

[UGADawg96]

If you grab the OP's vin from the window sticker posted a page or so back and drop in the Ford site, it returns 7000 max for a trailer.

I then put my VIN in there as I have a 2021 MT PB and I get the higher values.

 

[UGADawg96]

These old threads may provide some guidance between the different tow packages:

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ass-iv-vs-tow-vs-max-tow-updated-doc-v4.1188/

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/tow-tech-vs-trailer-tow-vs-max-tow-packages.5410/

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/tow-package-breakdown-for-2021-f-150.698/

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/trailer-tow-package-vs-tow-technology-package.8387/

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