5.0 revs for daily driving

[Hans Moleman]

PB is better for daily driving. I came from a 4.0L Tacoma and it’s a day and night difference in power, gas mileage, and smiles per gallon.

I can close gaps effortlessly now to prevent getting cut off in traffic.

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[Pedaldude]

The problem with the Coyote isn’t that it needs to be revved out, the problem is that it’s too much fun flooring it and hearing that engine.

With the other engines; you get Ford’s piped in Muzak engine noise which sounds like something from a video game.

In regular mode, the drive by wire throttle does take a little extra travel to get any results but that’s okay and helps in the rain, traffic or if you’re trying to get good MPG. I usually select Eco mode which is even less sensitive but I have broken a couple throttle pedals when I was young.

If you need that extra horsepower for overtaking, you probably shouldn’t be passing but like others have mentioned, at higher elevations the 2.7 will have better horsepower than the 5.0 everywhere because of the forced induction not being impacted by the thinner air.

With the 10 speed transmission, you can get better than 20MPG in the city with the 5.0 if you’re not getting stuck at traffic lights constantly but nobody behind you is going to enjoy it and you really need to milk the throttle as though you’re driving around with a bunch of old dynamite. The 2.7 is going to be way easier to get decent MPG if you’re just putting around or cruising on the highway, but if you’re always flooring it, you’ll get around the same fuel efficiency regardless of engine choice.

Good luck with your choice and be assured that you won’t feel deprived by either one. Heck, even the old 3.3 base engine wasn’t terrible compared with older base truck engines. I feel old saying it but just about every new car or truck has plenty of power and probably too much for most drivers that I see some days!

 

[JExpedition07]

General rule is N/A will lose 3% per 1,000 ft and F/I will lose 1% per 1000 ft. At your altitude of 7,000 ft It’ll be 315 HP for the 5.0 vs 302 HP for the 2.7 by some simple math. 5.0 would be down 21% and 2.7 will be down 7% on power. Obviously the 5.0 starts with more power so it takes decent altitude gain to get it down to 2.7 levels for power. BUT, the low end losses may make it feel a bit lethargic, I’d drive it before I made the call to be honest. The 2.7 doesn’t have a ton of accommodation for overboost like the 3.5 via some sources which would mean it loses a little more than 1% but without verification I’m going with the typical 1% loss for F/I.

Many supercharged engines still lose 2-3% with no ability to over boost. If you can’t over boost you lose almost as much as N/A. In your position drive them and see what you prefer imo. You are up there a ways.

 

[tony72cutlass's']

Passing with the 5.0 is fine and dandy until you look down at the speedo and you're doing 105MPH.

There's just too much power............

 

[TruckBubba]

Hey all,

Considering an STX. I got a choice between the 5.0 and 2.7. I've driven both for work trucks but its been a couple of years. Leaning towards the Coyote though. I do keep hearing that it needs a lot of revs to get going. Out of curiosity, for around town conservative driving, what RPM' range are you sitting at? Do you need to really ring it out that much?

Another thing for me is I live at 7200 ft and sometime venture to around 10,000 ft of elevation. I won't be towing that often but when I do it will probably never be more than 6,000 lbs. I would go for the 3.73 gears probably.

I currently have a 2013 Tacoma with the 4.0 V6. Around town I rarely go over 2200 RPM unless I need to scoot. Has good low-end but that runs out quick on the highway.

I have had a couple of V8 F 150's (4.6 3v) and I really like the low end response of my 2023 2.7. I've never found it lacking in response or upper Rev power and it works so well with the 10R80. The revs stay pretty low and I love how it shifts up at low speed to keep revs down and mpg up. I get consistent 28 mpg on the highway

 

[Rick R]

I drive a LOT of highway miles, the Interstate is a mile from my driveway. My 2.7EB has noticeably more power than my previous 4.0L Tacoma and gets 3-5 more mpg.

I haven’t been to 105mph but have caught myself at north of 90mph while passing. Didn’t have a clue because the little engine wasn’t breathing hard.

That 5.0 is the classic Ford power plant and it would be very tempting…

 

[FORDTEXAS]

2k-3k is the average range for everyday stop and go. that’s completely stock too FYI.

 

[Bossharp]

I'm waiting for my 2024 RCSB to be built but I can say I didn't consider anything other than the 5.0. It's Fords classic V-8 and I would not buy any configuration of the F-150 without it. If you choose a 8' bed you get the 2.7 standard and the 5.0 and the 3.5 are options. I bet that the 5.0 will have a better percentage of resale value in any configuration.

 

[GregBC]

Hey all,

Considering an STX. I got a choice between the 5.0 and 2.7. I've driven both for work trucks but its been a couple of years. Leaning towards the Coyote though. I do keep hearing that it needs a lot of revs to get going. Out of curiosity, for around town conservative driving, what RPM' range are you sitting at? Do you need to really ring it out that much?

Another thing for me is I live at 7200 ft and sometime venture to around 10,000 ft of elevation. I won't be towing that often but when I do it will probably never be more than 6,000 lbs. I would go for the 3.73 gears probably.

I drive like a grampa in Eco mode and my 5.0 typically putts along at 1000-1500rpm. All stop and go traffic thru sometimes hilly, non-highway town roads. Almost never need the power and honestly the speed limits are so low here, it's probably for the best, lol!
Maybe 1-2x's a month I need to stomp on it to merge or pass and it IS nice to have that power. Even in Eco mode, it gets up to speed in a hurry.

 

[Old Hat]

Doesn't flooring it override ECO mode? In other words, when you fully open the throttle you get maximum power and shift points. It seems this would be the case but I have not tested it.

 

[nvabill]

Hey all,

Considering an STX. I got a choice between the 5.0 and 2.7. I've driven both for work trucks but its been a couple of years. Leaning towards the Coyote though. I do keep hearing that it needs a lot of revs to get going. Out of curiosity, for around town conservative driving, what RPM' range are you sitting at? Do you need to really ring it out that much?

Another thing for me is I live at 7200 ft and sometime venture to around 10,000 ft of elevation. I won't be towing that often but when I do it will probably never be more than 6,000 lbs. I would go for the 3.73 gears probably.

I currently have a 2013 Tacoma with the 4.0 V6. Around town I rarely go over 2200 RPM unless I need to scoot. Has good low-end but that runs out quick on the highway.

Go test drive each one of them.

 

[TheGoatman]

If they made the 5.0 Powerboost that’s what I’d have. I’m at sea level and love v8s. If i was at any altitude, the decision would be simple.

 

[HDT05]

For me a truck just has to have a V8....

Even though I usually putt around at old f@rt speed (according to my better half)... I'm lucky in that I live not far from a tollway and if you don't get up to speed real quick to match some of the early morning crazies flying along you're toast..... (and I do love the throaty roar as it gets the heavy size 10...)

 

[jakearb]

For me a truck just has to have a V8....

Even though I usually putt around at old f@rt speed (according to my better half)... I'm lucky in that I live not far from a tollway and if you don't get up to speed real quick to match some of the early morning crazies flying along you're toast..... (and I do love the throaty roar as it gets the heavy size 10...)

I don't think the "V8 vs turbo" in any vehicle argument will ever die, I love it though. Got to have some competition to talk about. I'm on the other side, I prefer the sound of a turbo (or 2) spooling up and the feeling when the boost kicks in.

 

[JExpedition07]

Cubic inches all day every day, MERICA

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