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I’ve scratched my head since the S550 on that one. It’s a pretty heavy car.
With the S550 I understood it, the first all aluminum vehicle for ford was the 2015 F150 and then the 2017 SD and 2018 exp/nav. I’m sure Ford was trying to get the high volume vehicle in aluminum first. But to not carry it over to the new mustang boggles me. The main reason(s) I can consider is that manufacturing aluminum vehicles has a whole slew of its own issues that make it harder to mass produce than steel
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I just finished watching Robert Llewellyn interview with Ford’s CEO Jim Farley and I have to say I feel Ford is on the right hands.
Did you know Jim Farley worked a long time at Toyota?

What are your thoughts about this interview focused on electric vehicles.

Farley is shit.
 

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With the S550 I understood it, the first all aluminum vehicle for ford was the 2015 F150 and then the 2017 SD and 2018 exp/nav. I’m sure Ford was trying to get the high volume vehicle in aluminum first. But to not carry it over to the new mustang boggles me. The main reason(s) I can consider is that manufacturing aluminum vehicles has a whole slew of its own issues that make it harder to mass produce than steel
Aluminum is sort of limited on compound body lines too from my understanding, I think it would be very difficult to get the trademark rear flare done in aluminum. I really was not a fan of the sheet metal on the last 13th gen F-150, the 14th gen has a lot better lines but even so it’s very boxy and straight as a truck. The Mustang needs to flow both for aero and that trademark flare. It’s very possible it just cannot be done with aluminum.
 

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Aluminum is limited on body lines too, I think it would be very difficult to get the rear flare for the wheels done in aluminum. I really am not a fan of the sheet metal even on the last 13th gen F-150, the 14th gen has a lot better lines but even so, it’s very boxy and straight, the Mustang needs to flow both for aero and that trademark flare. It’s possible it just cannot be done with aluminum.
You can actually get a much deeper “draw” out of aluminum, which makes it easier to get those deep flares. It’s a pain in the ass to manufacture and assemble aluminum components though
 

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You can actually get a much deeper “draw” out of aluminum, which makes it easier to get those deep flares. It’s a pain in the ass to manufacture and assemble aluminum components though
And I think the F-150’s utilitarian structure may make it easier to assemble. It’s not a unibody, no secret that cold rolled steel is stronger. The mustang relies on thsoe body panels with the unibody structure for all its strength. No ladder frame like an F-150 to fall back on. There are pluses and minuses to everything. For me in New York the aluminum body was a huge selling point, my entire college career I’ve driven trucks with holes through the rocker panels. I wasn’t dropping $50,000+ on my first new truck to have it be eaten alive in 5 years.

I see 2015+ Chevys with holes eaten through the rear wheel wells all ready, have yet to see even one aluminum F-150 that has corrosion on body panels. That being said, for down south steel is likely better. Heavier truck, better road manners, quieter, more dent resistance. Everything is a trade off.
 

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I wouldn’t want Jim’s job ?
I would in a minute
FORD would be #1 world wide in 5 years

so much they loose on, that really costs very little
vehicles in shows and movies like ram/dodge etc
ford advertising SUCKS pickled eggs. always late and playing catch up

expedition is under sold
its a great vehicle for family with kids and wants to enjoy life .



QC and people that design actually have to drive and maintain said vehicles
just a start so they see the fruits of their fluck ups

thin the herd on dealers that don't promote ford quality and ideals...
they have made huge gains in super duty, but why is 150 stuff not all inclusive in superduty


put the safety features like stop and go cruise in all models...not as an option
why does a 39k escape titanium have it and a 45k edge does not as standard??

get a grip on 3rd party vendors, why accept half asssed axles , not just the f150
they screwed up the 350 as well with wrong wall thickness
wiper motors , etc
 
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"Ford Loses Billions On Electric Cars, Embraces Hybrids"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ford-loses-billions-on-electric-cars-embraces-hybrids


“You’re going to see a lot more hybrid systems from us,” CEO Jim Farley said Thursday after the company’s earnings report was released.

"Farley said Ford has been “surprised, frankly” at the popularity of the hybrid model for the F-150 pickup truck".

Wait......what? Where did all this come from all of a sudden? It's been all EV's all the time at Ford since the Lightning came out. Wow. Reality setting in?
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You de-tune the base engine and run it leaner, and allow the electric motor to supplement the missing power. Will increase mpg ‘s, but offer no extra hp/torque. Sort of like the Maverick hybrid.
parents have one
i like the frosty cold AC with ice off sitting in parking lot
mpg is good for them
so far 3 recalls is un acceptable
 

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I’m not a fan. He’s directing Ford down a path that’s not sustainable and also ultimately at the expense of tax payers.

EV division is losing billions, ICE vehicle prices continue to be inflated the lessen the blow by dismal EV earnings. The consumer is and will continue to pay the price.

It’s a train wreck.
You people need to maybe read a little before forming opinions?

Ford reported the new EV division would not be profitable until 2025 when they formed it. They lose money in 2023, as forecasted, and you all act like this is a shock.
 

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You people need to maybe read a little before forming opinions?

Ford reported the new EV division would not be profitable until 2025 when they formed it. They lose money in 2023, as forecasted, and you all act like this is a shock.
We have neither the tech, nor infrastructure to make EVs profitable until probably 2030 when the continuing shitstorm that is public charging first turns around and then ceases to exist and shed the stigma that's not even close to peaking.

I don't like farley because he hasn't / doesn't recognize this fact or its solution, among other reasons.
 

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We have neither the tech, nor infrastructure to make EVs profitable until probably 2030 when the continuing shitstorm that is public charging first turns around and then ceases to exist and shed the stigma that's not even close to peaking.

I don't like farley because he hasn't / doesn't recognize this fact or its solution, among other reasons.
I agree with this sentiment. I think electric is very likely the future, but with all these 2030 “electric only” goals this will be a dumpster fire. The charging infrastructure is horrendous, and some states (looking at you California) all ready want you to turn off your ac at night to avoid brownouts. How do you charge your car after work now? What about apartment dwellers with no at home charging? Just forget them right! Anyone who truly believes we can ditch internal combustion in 7 years is smoking crack. I like to base this transition on realistic updates to infrastructure, not magic buzz words.
 

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I’m betting a 2.7 hybrid. I’d love to see a 5.0 hybrid but everything points to the 2.7, and it’s not going to be a “PowerBoost” but a rather lamed down efficiency hybrid. Ford won’t leap frog the 2.7 over the 5.0 in the engine hierarchy so power output will likely remain the same, just better fuel efficiency. Likely a detuned 2.7 with electric supplement to get the same 325 hp/400 lb ft but run leaner.
Totally cool with that strategy actually. The 3.5 isn't that much worse than the powerboosts overall in terms of efficiency. I really couldn't justify the hybrid currently offered because I don't really tow much or put city miles on. The highway efficiency in the powerboost is simply unacceptable.
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