No, the ground cannot be joined to the neutral at all. The neutral and ground bonding is done at the truck and must run as 4 discrete wires to whatever it is you're powering. I think you're misunderstanding how the transfer switch connects. If you connect the 3 pole transfer switch correctly it should work.
I corrected the neutral and ground connection at the transfer switch. I’m trying to find a 3-pole transfer switch, but couldn’t find one, so I don’t know it’s supposed to wire.
We've pretty much beat this topic to death across several posts. Keep in mind if you're going to get the meter pulled to install such a thing (if your meter has a main panel you won't need to have the meter pulled), you will likely need permitting and sign off of approval before they'll put the meter back. Post pics of anything you have a question about. The easiest method is a breaker interlock, and when used in conjunction with the properly labeled dog bone described above for the PPOB, proper functionality will be maintained at minimal cost while also being able to connect another generator in the same manner.
”What fault path do you believe exists on this configuration that doesn't on a utility derived source of electrons..”.
Yeah we do, but it's like Michael Myers, he always come back to life. The code compliant method to wire the Powerboost to feed a whole house is still not conclusive. I wish someone who's an certified electrician can come up with some type of wiring schematic to enlighten all of us. Electricity is more complicated than people think.
The N/G bond of the structure is still present. That's what trips the truck's GFI in the first place. The panel and all breakers will continue to operate as they should. The ground has nothing to do with breaker tripping unless whatever failure mode occurs contacts hot to case ground if it's 3 prong. This is the exact same level of safety provided by utility source with one exception, you can't overload the PB, it just shuts itself down. It's not a dumb breaker, it looks at current draw and immediately shuts down before it reaches 32 amps.
None of the amazon dog bones are UL listed. You have to pay for a UL listing. Most of the stuff coming in from china isn't UL listed. Trying to inject common electrical fire issues, which have precisely fuckall to do with this discussion is disingenuous at best. Loose / poor receptacles are the #1 cause of electrical fires which is why AFIs came into code 20 years ago. These fire-catching receptacles are UL listed too -- didn't they get the memo they're immune from failure?
How many generator back-feeds via interlocks are double neutral bonded? Pretty much all of them. Portable generators are bonded and every electrician installs a 2 pole interlock for the typical back feed. That's neither to code nor UL compliant -- and the #1 killer with backfed generators, carbon monoxide. The outlets causing fires from being old and worn, those are UL listed. I'm looking for a legitimate answer to the question and all I'm getting is "defer to authority". That's on par with saying the label on a generator that says "Use outdoors only" is what makes them deadly. The CO, a byproduct of combustion makes them deadly. Not the sticker.
Where does the normal power NG bond connect to the Powerboost If you cut the ground?The N/G bond of the structure is still present. That's what trips the truck's GFI in the first place. The panel and all breakers will continue to operate as they should. The ground has nothing to do with breaker tripping unless whatever failure mode occurs contacts hot to case ground if it's 3 prong. This is the exact same level of safety provided by utility source with one exception, you can't overload the PB, it just shuts itself down. It's not a dumb breaker, it looks at current draw and immediately shuts down before it reaches 32 amps.
None of the amazon dog bones are UL listed. You have to pay for a UL listing. Most of the stuff coming in from china isn't UL listed. Trying to inject common electrical fire issues, which have precisely fuckall to do with this discussion is disingenuous at best. Loose / poor receptacles are the #1 cause of electrical fires which is why AFIs came into code 20 years ago. These fire-catching receptacles are UL listed too -- didn't they get the memo they're immune from failure?
How many generator back-feeds via interlocks are double neutral bonded? Pretty much all of them. Portable generators are bonded and every electrician installs a 2 pole interlock for the typical back feed. That's neither to code nor UL compliant -- and the #1 killer with backfed generators, carbon monoxide. The outlets causing fires from being old and worn, those are UL listed. I'm looking for a legitimate answer to the question and all I'm getting is "defer to authority". That's on par with saying the label on a generator that says "Use outdoors only" is what makes them deadly. The CO, a byproduct of combustion makes them deadly. Not the sticker.
If you don't have any fault-path examples of this installation that you can point to regarding its failure mode, just say it, but to come out and pretend that a 3 conductor feed from utility has some magic unicorn protections over the same from another source is bad faith. I'm not looking for argument or suggestions to defer to authority. I'm looking for a legitimate hazard. We could go 100 pages into 'what abouts', but the issue at hand is simple. For someone who has a 2 pole interlock, or even a 2 pole transfer switch with bonded neutral, who can rely on their double-bonded portable generator, but trips the PB under the same circumstances, the solution is the little dog bone described above. Someone who has a 3 pole switch isn't encountering the issue.
All of the building's wiring is as it should be. You're taking exception to the little PB bypass unit that isn't part of the structure. The ground for that run is in the same spot the utility's ground is with the exception being that it's cord run has GFI protection on it.
Yes
The operation is the same as the utility's feed
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Mike Holt is one of the guys that contributes to the NEC, or has in the past. I'm on that forum under another name. I don't need to ask the question in regards to how it will play out. The question won't be answered. Though I could phrase it in a manner that removes code from the picture. I don't however expect the caliber of mind needed to answer that question to be there on the thread. You have to be careful around people conditioned to appeal to authority, it can result in cultish behavior. They're conditioned to defer to it forgoing thought on the topic. That has no utility to me, I can read.
I wouldn't say they're the same. They're bonded, but current shouldn't be on the ground but can be on the neutral as it's returning to the source. With the typical install of a generator interlock, often done with a 2 pole breaker, any portable generator connected to such wired configuration will be passing the delta of L1 and L2 back to the generator equally on the ground and the neutral. That's not to code, but that's just what you get with a breaker interlock.
DO NOT do that. Don't touch the truck. I wouldn't be modifying generators either. The current is trying to get back to the generator.
