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I think this will only be on the Police Interceptors. I can't see it on regular Ford vehicles but stranger things have happened.
 

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Ford like every large companies thinks things to patent hoping for a possible future payoff. They patented PPOB and now every truck is coming with a version of it
 

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At some point government will just mandate vehicle self reporting for speeding with all the data manufacturers collect.
 

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They have been talking about this for years. No surprises here. They have long preached vehicles becoming interconnected that can communicate with each other to help avoid collisions and to report illegal driving. The hardware is in most newer vehicles now. They just have to program all of it.
 

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Oh would you look at that... The modem on my truck suddenly stopped working (disconnected) I wonder how that could have possible happened? Must be another example of Ford's poor quality control I guess...
 

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It'll never happen. Guess Ford never heard of the sixth amendment. The one that gives the accused the right to confront and cross examine ALL witnesses. Such as the driver of the "snitch truck."

Can you imagine? One day you are just driving down the road minding your own business. A month or two later you are subpoenaed to court to testify against some stranger you don't know for speeding that you never actually paid attention to or saw.



The Sixth Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the rights of criminal defendants. It guarantees the following rights:
  • Speedy and public trial: The accused has the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay. A four-part test is used to determine if a delay violates the Sixth Amendment, considering the length of the delay, reasons for the delay, whether the accused requested a speedy trial, and any prejudice to the accused.
  • Impartial jury: The accused has the right to an impartial jury from the state and district where the crime occurred. The jury selection process ensures that jurors can fairly consider the evidence and arguments. The Sixth Amendment also requires courts to investigate whether a guilty verdict was based on racial bias.
  • Notice of accusation: The accused has the right to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation. However, the Supreme Court has ruled that this right is not violated if the defendant and the lower court are clear on the charges.
  • Confrontation with witnesses: The accused has the right to confront the witnesses against them.
  • Compulsory process for obtaining witnesses: The accused has the right to compel witnesses in their favor to testify.
  • Assistance of counsel: The accused has the right to an attorney, regardless of whether the charges are felonies or misdemeanors. The government may appoint and pay for an attorney if the charges carry a risk of jail time
 
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It'll never happen. Guess Ford never heard of the sixth amendment. The one that gives the accused the right to confront and cross examine ALL witnesses. Such as the driver of the "snitch truck."

Can you imagine? One day you are just driving down the road minding your own business. A month or two later you are subpoenaed to court to testify against some stranger you don't know for speeding that you never actually paid attention to or saw.



The Sixth Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the rights of criminal defendants. It guarantees the following rights:
  • Speedy and public trial: The accused has the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay. A four-part test is used to determine if a delay violates the Sixth Amendment, considering the length of the delay, reasons for the delay, whether the accused requested a speedy trial, and any prejudice to the accused.
  • Impartial jury: The accused has the right to an impartial jury from the state and district where the crime occurred. The jury selection process ensures that jurors can fairly consider the evidence and arguments. The Sixth Amendment also requires courts to investigate whether a guilty verdict was based on racial bias.
  • Notice of accusation: The accused has the right to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation. However, the Supreme Court has ruled that this right is not violated if the defendant and the lower court are clear on the charges.
  • Confrontation with witnesses: The accused has the right to confront the witnesses against them.
  • Compulsory process for obtaining witnesses: The accused has the right to compel witnesses in their favor to testify.
  • Assistance of counsel: The accused has the right to an attorney, regardless of whether the charges are felonies or misdemeanors. The government may appoint and pay for an attorney if the charges carry a risk of jail time
Yet we are required by law to wear seatbelts. Instead of spying on speeders why not address drunks behind the wheel? Think back when cameras at intersections were under protest in the name of our civil rights. How did that get resolved? Today there are more cameras in the U.S, than fleas on a mutt. Last note if the insurance industry can benefit from this Ford P.O.S. it is good as done.
 
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I think this will only be on the Police Interceptors. I can't see it on regular Ford vehicles but stranger things have happened.
How do you arrive at that conclusion?
 

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Yet we are required by law to wear seatbelts. Instead of spying on speeders why not address drunks behind the wheel? Think back when cameras at intersections were under protest in the name of our civil rights. How did that get resolved? Today there are more cameras in the U.S, than fleas on a mutt. Last note if the insurance industry can benefit from this Ford P.O.S. it is good as done.
I would counter that seatbelt laws benefit everyone because they keep a driver and passenger secure during emergency maneuvers, it's hard to control a vehicle from the passenger seat or when you have a passenger suddenly in your lap.

The difference between red light or speeding cameras is that they are basically operated by the government so in court, a defendant can ask for and obtain the calibration records from the government. With Ford's system, they have introduced an additional witness to the mix and subpoenaing those folks would instantly be a PITA and then the defendant could ask for calibration records or demand the system be calibrated. Imagine losing your truck for a few days because it caught someone speeding.

I agree that DUI is a HUGE problem and also that insurance companies will do anything and everything they can to get more money out of us.
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