Recalls exempt companies from Lemon Laws

[Calson]

I bought my F-150 in May of 2022 and in January of 2023 received a recall notice for the defective wiper motor. My truck has only 2737 miles on it at this time as I avoid driving it and risking a serious accident. I don't drive it when there is rain or fog or take it out of town.

I have learned that the Lemon Laws provide no consumer protection when the manufacturer issues a recall notice. At that point they have admitted there is a defect and they have an unlimited amount of time to fix their vehicle. My truck is functionally a LEMON but the law does not offer a real remedy once the manufacturer issues a recall notice.

My 2011 Chevy Silverado had the defective Takata airbag injectors that were killing people when they were activated and exploded and sent shrapnel thoughout the cab. The recall notice went out in 2012 and as of 2018 when I sold the truck the new injectors were still not available from Chevrolet/GM. At least in that situation I could use the ignition key to deactivate the passenger side air bag and cut the odds of an injector explosion in half.

The bad aspect of having a new truck is that there are no third party parts to use instead of the unavailable part from Ford dealers. The wiper motor is not available to buy from a Ford dealer or other parts businesses. I would have to look for a wrecked 2023 truck and have the wiper motor pulled from it.

Next time it will be a Toyota truck.

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[BarryT82]

Mine has the recall, but I still drive it every day. It hasn’t experienced any issues with the wipers yet.

 

[Snakebitten]

If my windshield wipers stopped working while it was raining, and I really couldn't see well enough to drive safely, I would pull over and wait until it wasn't raining so hard.

THEN, I might avoid driving it based on weather predictions.

Your wipers may never malfunction.

 

[m_bt54]

I have so many things I want to say to this post but instead I’ll say this:

I have a Cuisinart food processor that I use at least once a week. It had a recall in 2016. 7 years later I am still alive despite not addressing it.

 

[tbinmd]

I have so many things I want to say to this post but instead I’ll say this:

I have a Cuisinart food processor that I use at least once a week. It had a recall in 2016. 7 years later I am still alive despite not addressing it.

But do you have all your fingers? ?

 

[fordtruckman2003]

Enjoy your Toyota. ?

 

[Samson16]

Next time it will be a Toyota truck.

Think again my friend...

2022 Toyota Tundra Pickup Trucks Recalled Because Part of the Axle Shaft May Separate
Nuts securing the rear axle sub-assembly could loosen or fall off

We're all going to die!!! Well, someday

 

[Snakebitten]

Perception is reality.
A human phenomenon.

Any parent of a teenager has witnessed such.

 

[WhiteLightningnshitshadow]

If my windshield wipers stopped working while it was raining, and I really couldn't see well enough to drive safely, I would pull over and wait until it wasn't raining so hard.

THEN, I might avoid driving it based on weather predictions.

Your wipers may never malfunction.

Yeah and with rainx, I feel like I don't even need wipers.

That said, OP has a point that is more directed at parts availability and timeliness of the corrective action.

I'll add that the fix for the flickering DRL recall took like 4 months to rollout despite being only software, and while my truck doesn't flicker EVERY time like it used to, my wife and I have both witnessed the rare flicker after the recall was performed. I wouldn't send it back because I know the dealer won't be able to replicate it and it has never been a problem when actually driving to my knowledge.

 

[Vin]

Perception is reality.
A human phenomenon.

Any parent of a teenager has witnessed such.

But reality is infrequently perception.

 

[Snakebitten]

Yeah and with rainx, I feel like I don't even need wipers.

That said, OP has a point that is more directed at parts availability and timeliness of the corrective action.

(snip)

Great Point. If I was to be wired to worry, I'd have the windshield treated with one of the modern "miracle" products that allow for driving in the rain with almost no need for wipers.

And I also agree that there's no good excuse for any manufacturer to not have parts availability on such a fundamental part.

 

[Snakebitten]

But reality is infrequently perception.

Absolutely.

All my children, and I have many, (grown now) can quote their dad's summary of the human dilemma: (as they roll their eyes ?)

The only thing wrong with any of us is the same thing that is wrong with all of us. It's the stupid things we believe are true that aren't.

 

[billkran]

I bought my F-150 in May of 2022 and in January of 2023 received a recall notice for the defective wiper motor. My truck has only 2737 miles on it at this time as I avoid driving it and risking a serious accident. I don't drive it when there is rain or fog or take it out of town.

I have learned that the Lemon Laws provide no consumer protection when the manufacturer issues a recall notice. At that point they have admitted there is a defect and they have an unlimited amount of time to fix their vehicle. My truck is functionally a LEMON but the law does not offer a real remedy once the manufacturer issues a recall notice.

My 2011 Chevy Silverado had the defective Takata airbag injectors that were killing people when they were activated and exploded and sent shrapnel thoughout the cab. The recall notice went out in 2012 and as of 2018 when I sold the truck the new injectors were still not available from Chevrolet/GM. At least in that situation I could use the ignition key to deactivate the passenger side air bag and cut the odds of an injector explosion in half.

The bad aspect of having a new truck is that there are no third party parts to use instead of the unavailable part from Ford dealers. The wiper motor is not available to buy from a Ford dealer or other parts businesses. I would have to look for a wrecked 2023 truck and have the wiper motor pulled from it.
Next time it will be a Toyota truck.

Actually, this is not true, in CA. Many people have sued for the F150 transmission issues causing stuck throttle and dangerous downshifts on the freeway, and won.

The problem is, 'winning' means you get 40-60% of you money back......the rest goes to lawyers.

 

[Ed21]

Used Rainex on a 2 week camping trip in the Smokeys last year when awaiting parts for wiper arms that could fly off. Rains were monsoon caliber and I never had to touch the wiper control once.

 

[astrand1]

I bought my F-150 in May of 2022 and in January of 2023 received a recall notice for the defective wiper motor. My truck has only 2737 miles on it at this time as I avoid driving it and risking a serious accident. I don't drive it when there is rain or fog or take it out of town.

I have learned that the Lemon Laws provide no consumer protection when the manufacturer issues a recall notice. At that point they have admitted there is a defect and they have an unlimited amount of time to fix their vehicle. My truck is functionally a LEMON but the law does not offer a real remedy once the manufacturer issues a recall notice.

My 2011 Chevy Silverado had the defective Takata airbag injectors that were killing people when they were activated and exploded and sent shrapnel thoughout the cab. The recall notice went out in 2012 and as of 2018 when I sold the truck the new injectors were still not available from Chevrolet/GM. At least in that situation I could use the ignition key to deactivate the passenger side air bag and cut the odds of an injector explosion in half.

The bad aspect of having a new truck is that there are no third party parts to use instead of the unavailable part from Ford dealers. The wiper motor is not available to buy from a Ford dealer or other parts businesses. I would have to look for a wrecked 2023 truck and have the wiper motor pulled from it.

Next time it will be a Toyota truck.

I have a 22 and I’m in that recall as well. Been driving my truck almost a year now in Michigan where we get rain and snow so wipers are used all the time. I’ve not had any issues. FYI I read that the numbers of trucks “possibly” affected by this is somewhere in the 1% range. So there is a huge likely hood that your truck may never experience it. Just drive the truck and enjoy it. You’re way over worrying about something like this. Life is short. And as others have said worst case if you were driving and they happened to stop it’s not like you’re immediately blind. You’d have time to pull over or whatever.

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