RAM to focus on RAM Charger Hybrid, Delay EV

[RickBullotta]

https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/18/r...ch-to-2026-bets-on-extended-range-ramcharger/

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[v8440]

Sounds like a smart move. I wonder if this was caused by that asshole ceo quitting and Tim Kuniskis taking over Ram?

 

[RickBullotta]

Sounds like a smart move. I wonder if this was caused by that asshole ceo quitting and Tim Kuniskis taking over Ram?

Almost certainly

 

[eharri3]

In all honestly I am excited to see that Ram hybrid hit the street and see it field tested. If it works out well 2030 is probably my target date unless Ford does something significant with the Powerboost system by then..

 

[Forumlurker24]

In all honestly I am excited to see that Ram hybrid hit the street and see it field tested. If it works out well 2030 is probably my target date unless Ford does something significant with the Powerboost system by then..

Gen 15 should be out sometime in 2026/2027 and ford would be stupid to not make the powerboost a phev or make a lightning range extender option.

I was going to trade in for a powerboost but I think I'll wait for something better

 

[powerboatr]

eager to see real world mpg and range tests compared to the pb

none of this epa crap
give me the truck for a week to drive texas speeds and traffic in dallas or san antonio
the locomotive drive train, is proven on train
maybe ram takes the good and rids the bad
then ford has real competition in this area
we all win

 

[Mosey]

I think the concept is good, but what happens when towing and you deplete the battery? Do you end up with the power output of a Pentastar?

 

[eharri3]

I think the concept is good, but what happens when towing and you deplete the battery? Do you end up with the power output of a Pentastar?

Excellent question I hadn't thought of, what happens to your towing performance while the gas motor is working to replenish the battery. How long does it take for it to do that under heavy load. Will that be the trade-off of the Ram Charger system, better day to day than Powerboost but far lower towing limits?

 

[v8440]

I would think you'd end up with the power of the pentastar minus conversion losses to go from mechanical power to electrical and then back again.

 

[Forumlurker24]

I think the concept is good, but what happens when towing and you deplete the battery? Do you end up with the power output of a Pentastar?

At speed you shouldn't be using that much energy to maintain it... Stopping and going alot is going to be a different story. I don't think it would be an issue though unless you're stomping the pedals in heavy traffic, or going up a mountain. even then some software could aid that.

I don't think comparing it's towing will be fair comparing it to the powerboost considering it will have a ton more payload than the pb which is the limiting factor of F-150s

 

[RickBullotta]

Excellent question I hadn't thought of, what happens to your towing performance while the gas motor is working to replenish the battery. How long does it take for it to do that under heavy load. Will that be the trade-off of the Ram Charger system, better day to day than Powerboost but far lower towing limits?

I'd expect the same degradation as with any vehicle. On my PB I get about 9 mpg towing our travel trailer at 70-72 MPH, vs 18 mpg when not towing. So a 50% reduction. I'd expect the RAM to be comparable range when towing (280-300 miles).

 

[RickBullotta]

Excellent question I hadn't thought of, what happens to your towing performance while the gas motor is working to replenish the battery. How long does it take for it to do that under heavy load. Will that be the trade-off of the Ram Charger system, better day to day than Powerboost but far lower towing limits?

I don't think you'll ever need to stop to charge/recharge. It'll just "work", kinda like generator mode on the PB. And I expect the same approximate towing range.

 

[powerboatr]

I would think you'd end up with the power of the pentastar minus conversion losses to go from mechanical power to electrical and then back again.

according to ram there is no mechanical connection between the ICE and the drive train
its solely to generate electricity to run the two drive motors and charge the battery 130kw is what ram states is output of the generator... thats a whole lot of power, at what cost to fuel?
my 8kw diesel cummins burns 3 gph at max output 1.8 at half power
i bet the 130 kw load is at least 10 to 15 gph ..they are pretty tight lipped right now about fuel burn
26 gallon fuel tank? thats 2 hrs of drive time at max output, which i would say is not ever going to happen we shall seeeeeee

"What Powers The Ramcharger?

In the case of the 2024 Ramcharger, a 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 engine sits under the hood and its sole purpose is to spin a 130-kilowatt electric generator. The gas-burning engine is not connected to the wheels in any way, leaving the job of providing motivation to a pair of electric motors that get their juice from a 92-kilowatt-hour battery pack nestled between the chassis rails.

With a drivetrain configuration similar to the discontinued BMW i3 Range Extender and Chevrolet Volt, Ram’s new work truck combines two electric motors (one at the front and one at the rear), a battery pack, and a gas-powered generator.

The front electric drive module (EDM), as Ram calls it, delivers 250 kilowatts (335 horsepower) and the rear one adds an extra 238 kW (319 hp) to the mix for a combined output of 663 hp and 615 pound-feet of torque, enabling a zero to 60 miles per hour sprint in 4.4 seconds."


surely they thought ahead for periods of depleted battery and max electricity needed ???
maybe

 

[FaaWrenchBndr]

I think the concept is good, but what happens when towing and you deplete the battery? Do you end up with the power output of a Pentastar?

Naw…..ya just call a buddy with a Powerboost to come out and charge the Ram up.

Joking of course……great question

 

[Old tool guy]

I think the concept is good, but what happens when towing and you deplete the battery? Do you end up with the power output of a Pentastar?

The article says the ice motor can either recharge the battery or send power directly to the electric motors, so you wouldn’t notice the change.

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