One man's opinion...

[FirstFord]

One man's opinion. Well, actually several people's opinion, apparently....

https://bestlifeonline.com/ford-vehicles-gone-downhill/

I know this has to be fodder for discussion... ?

EDIT: After posting, I came to realize that my title, "One Man's Opinion" may have inferred to some that it was MY opinion. I meant no such thing - the title was referring to one mechanic's opinion in the article, which later turned into actually several mechanic's opinions. I've had a few hiccups with my truck, but nothing that hasn't been resolved. I'm actually pretty happy with my truck. And as has already been stated, all manufacturers are having issues nowadays.

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[FaaWrenchBndr]

Meh…… right ups like these aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

I look at these kind of review write ups and take them with a grain of salt. It’s kinda like the stupid movie reviews. The critics eat up a movie and I end up enjoying it. The critics eat up a vehicle or an engine and I have zero problems with it.

 

[Davexxxx]

One man's opinion. Well, actually several people's opinion, apparently....

https://bestlifeonline.com/ford-vehicles-gone-downhill/

I know this has to be fodder for discussion... ?

Pretty sure everyone I've ever known from over your way, is s shit disturber.

 

[HammaMan]

How'd they botch site formatting? A whole sentence on a page of this size!?

Of the many things ford has going on, engines aren't their weakness. They've easily got the best V8s on the market today. Rams are nonexistent and GMs blow up in as few as 4 miles. For the turbo'd 6 bangers, they've earned their stripes. Toyota recalled all of theirs for blowing up and Ram's hasn't started off that great either. GM's long-running transmission issues are just bad. Ford has been #1 in recalls though. A lot of which have been software related. The OTA bricking of a handful of MMEs was pretty bad, but quite limited. GM had quite a few of those as well that also went ahead and drained the 12v batt just to show everyone else how to do it.

More recalls and higher prices seem to be a common theme these days. Manufacturers will only get away with what consumers allow them to.

 

[TremorDave]

Most if not all major brands are having issues right now, and it’s just a repeat of the past. Anyone remember how bad the emission systems were in the early 80s? Cars were pretty unreliable then also. It started smoothing out greatly in the early 2000s and then took a nose dive at that towards the end of the 2010s. Hopefully some of the emission and safety standards pushing forwards less aggressively will help reliability catch up.

 

[TarnishedCopper]

The frustrating thing is when you take your truck in for service for a specific problem and being told that Ford is aware of the problem and is working on an update to take care of it. We never are notified when the update has been done, and the dealer cannot even tell. I don't want a "Windows 3.1 on 4 wheels." I want a truck! All of these module re-programs and seemingly endless menus to scroll through that you can't do while driving are a bunch of crap. Put the switches back on the dashboard, and separate the stereo from the computer so we can install our own with the XM that Ford just couldn't build. Oh and put a good battery in it instead of a cheap Chinese-made knock-off labeled as "Ford." Design the steering to move about 10 degrees further in each direction than it does now.

 

[Davexxxx]

Re the battery problems, which were real (and I had some too!), I haven't had a single peep out of it, since doing a full bench charge (directly to the posts) and then resetting the BMS. That was a yr. ago April and my truck frequently sits for a week at a time and has all the goodies enabled.

And the F150s aren't the only ones. The Bronco Sport forum, is full of people complaining about the batts.

While we've never had batt problems on that one, did the same procedure on my Wife's Badlands, in prep for leaving it sit while we were away. Two days shy of 7 weeks. Not one warning from Ford pass and it fired right up when we got home.

 

[Vater]

Most if not all major brands are having issues right now, and it’s just a repeat of the past. Anyone remember how bad the emission systems were in the early 80s? Cars were pretty unreliable then also. It started smoothing out greatly in the early 2000s and then took a nose dive at that towards the end of the 2010s. Hopefully some of the emission and safety standards pushing forwards less aggressively will help reliability catch up.

Catalytic converters, carburetors, air pumps and EGR. Yea..I soo don’t miss those days. Late 70’s and early 80’s cars were gutted for power coming out of the 70’s with emissions gear and lowered compression

 

[FirstFord]

After reading some of the replies, it occurred to me that the title of the post may have been misinterpreted by some, prompting me to add an edit to the original post:

"After posting, I came to realize that my title, "One Man's Opinion" may have inferred to some that it was MY opinion. I meant no such thing - the title was referring to one mechanic's opinion in the article, which later turned into actually several mechanic's opinions. I've had a few hiccups with my truck, but nothing that hasn't been resolved. I'm actually pretty happy with my truck. And as has already been stated, all manufacturers are having issues nowadays."

The post was intended as a conversation starter - not an expression of my feelings of Ford.

 

[Davexxxx]

After reading some of the replies, it occurred to me that the title of the post may have been misinterpreted by some, prompting me to add an edit to the original post:

"After posting, I came to realize that my title, "One Man's Opinion" may have inferred to some that it was MY opinion. I meant no such thing - the title was referring to one mechanic's opinion in the article, which later turned into actually several mechanic's opinions. I've had a few hiccups with my truck, but nothing that hasn't been resolved. I'm actually pretty happy with my truck. And as has already been stated, all manufacturers are having issues nowadays."

The post was intended as a conversation starter - not an expression of my feelings of Ford.

I hope you know, my initial response was a neighborly type poke but we have had our share of hit pieces.

The CR reports can't be accurate and the first one about the PB, was a blatant hit piece, obviously blaming non PB specific problems on the PB.

And then that crap gets repeated.

Re your article, it mentioned the cam phasers. To my knowledge, that has been fixed, 5 or 6 yrs. ago?

 

[Vater]

I am going to be pointed about CR. Most those people there drive Prius vehicles and voted for candidates that wanted the green new deal. I don’t respect their opinion about trucks.

 

[2Lazy2P]

OP, thanks for sharing the link.

One man’s opinion is another man’s bathroom reading. ?

 

[FirstFord]

I hope you know, my initial response was a neighborly type poke but we have had our share of hit pieces.

The CR reports can't be accurate and the first one about the PB, was a blatant hit piece, obviously blaming non PB specific problems on the PB.

And then that crap gets repeated.

Re your article, it mentioned the cam phasers. To my knowledge, that has been fixed, 5 or 6 yrs. ago?

My edit was not directly pointed at you, but I appreciate the comment. It really was a true reassessment of my choice of words. It struck me how it could have been misinterpreted.

Regarding the article, I will offer a few thoughts of my own. Disclaimer: As my Username suggests, "FirstFord", this truck truly is my first Ford, so I do not have the knowledge, history, or experience with Ford that so many on this forum have, so I may be going out on a limb in a few places...

I may have to reread the article, but I never interpreted it to be primarily a focus on newer vehicles. I took it as an overview of issues that manufacturers have had over the years, and mechanics/technicians reporting that in their opinion, there were more problems overall with Ford products - that was the upshot that I got. That being said, I think that there was an inference that past issues reflect current status, which I find to be misleading. Your cam phasers is a very good example. But on the flip side is a different viewpoint: A lot of people can't afford new vehicles and have to buy used, some vehicles with a number of years on them and higher mileage. Besides that, it is no secret buying a vehicle that is preowned is widely regarded by financial experts as being the smarter move (although I know this is debatable in some circles). So, in that context, the issues of the cam phasers (fixed 5 or 6 years ago) is relevant.

I have an EB, so I am somewhat ignorant regarding PB trucks, but based on this forum, PBs seem to have had a few more issues. But in my mind, that is to be expected - they are considerably more complex. To me, that's just logical - higher complexity frequently yields more issues to be worked out. And like most other issues (again using cam phasers as an example), those issues tend to get worked out. So in that light, yeah, I thought the comments about the PBs were a bit of a hit piece.

YMMV

 

[FirstFord]

I am going to be pointed about CR. Most those people there drive Prius vehicles and voted for candidates that wanted the green new deal. I don’t respect their opinion about trucks.

Yeah, I understand. I've long been a follower, and maybe even a little bit of a fan of CR for decades - except on their auto reporting. It always struck me as biased - for decades they struck me as being biased for imports and against US brands.

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