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The problem that made backup cameras mandatory isn't generally running into a house, it's running over things it's simply impossible to see in mirrors or out the windows from the driver's seat.

Years ago my young cousin was sitting in the shade behind her parent's expedition with headphones on when her mother needed to make a quick run to the store and backed down the driveway, running my cousin over. This resulted in many surgeries and months in the hospital for my cousin, not to mention the emotional scars on her mother. Sure, a kid shouldn't be hanging out there, and ideally a driver does a full walk around their vehicle to be aware of what's around -- but even with careful people, mistakes happen.

Some of us older guys were taught to use the mirrors only. My grandpa when I was first learning to drive would hit me on the head if I turn it to look out the back. What is worse, at that time most cars only had one mirror, the passenger side mirror was an option.

Had to learn how to back up a 73 Chevy Caprice Station Wagon on a driveway that butted up agaist the house. My grandpa would get furious at me if I parked in the front of the house to avoid driving all the way to the back of the house.
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New Recall came up for my 2021 XLT today while I was checking for details on the Axle bolts. Guess it's like playing whack-a-mole to get them all cleared. :crazy:

May 12,2025
Manufacturer Recall Number: 25S49
NHTSA Recall Number: 25V315
Recall Status: Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available
Summary: ON YOUR VEHICLE, THE INFOTAINMENT SCREEN MAY FREEZE FOLLOWED BY A BLACK SCREEN AND A SYSTEM REBOOT. IF THIS OCCURS DURING A BACKING EVENT, THE REAR-VIEW IMAGE MAY BE FROZEN, MISSING, OR DELAYED.

Safety Risk: A FROZEN REAR-VIEW CAMERA DISPLAY AN IMAGE WHILE IN REVERSE CAN CREATE A FALSE REPRESENTATION OF WHERE THE VEHICLE IS RELATIVE TO ITS SURROUNDINGS, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy: WHEN THE REMEDY IS AVAILABLE, FORD MOTOR COMPANY WILL SEND A LETTER TO INFORM YOU TO CONTACT YOUR DEALER TO SCHEDULE A REPAIR. THE REMEDY IS ANTICIPATED TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2025.

Manufacturer's Notes: IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS RECALL, OR BELIEVE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION IS INACCURATE, PLEASE CONTACT FORD DIRECTLY AT 800-392-3673 OR LINCOLN AT 800-521-4140.

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No, seriously, your honor! My rear view camera showed it was clear behind me when I backed over that family of 4 in the Walmart parking lot!
 

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I got that recall as well, but never had any issues on my 21 job1
 

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Federally mandated rear cameras have been a disaster for automakers.

They are a great option to have, but now automakers are liable if some inept jagaloon backs over the neighbor's poodle.

All thanks to government intervention.
 

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This forum has rant posts from Ford customers waiting on their vehicle since the day it was established.
And it's very common for the predictions of Ford's demise, as a result.
But it's the first I've ever seen of Toyota selling more trucks than Ford. That sounds like hyperbole, at best.

I completely understand the rant(s) though. I waited 6 months for my 3 year old Powerboost. (which, by the way, has been worth that wait and more) I have been waiting 4 months, currently, for a 2025 Maverick. I just don't see Ford is very good at, or even has a clue about how to foster a customer service relationship with the special order customer. Thank goodness they are pretty competitive at actually building trucks. :)
Maverick can tow your trailer? ?
 

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Maverick can tow your trailer? ?
Which one?

I have 4 RV's.
I live in one that will never be towed.
(8 years in an RV full-timing renders it WAY over its GVW ?)
I also have a little 17' toy hauler. It's about #3500 empty. So technically the Maverick with the #4k tow package could....

But the Maverick, if it is going to tow an RV, would be towing:

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The 4th RV isn't heavy either, but it is pretty long for a cross-country tow. That's what I recently grabbed an F350 for. And kinda shopping for something in the bunkhouse format for beach camping with a bunch of grand kids this summer. The Powerboost would tow the tow hauler and the F350 would tow the bunkhouse.

We'll see how it actually pans out, but with the 3-truck fleet, the caravan options are on the table. I only got so many more years that I can physically handle the workload necessary to pull big family get-togethers off. ?
 

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Wack-A-Mole is no way to own a truck. Sell it and get a Tundra. Issue free baby ?
The newest recall (let's ignore the engine recall) involves a stop sale on Tundras as the reverse lights are failing due to water ingress.
If that's issue free, I'm sticking with my F150.
Yes I have owned Toyotas and Hondas .
 

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The newest recall (let's ignore the engine recall) involves a stop sale on Tundras as the reverse lights are failing due to water ingress.
If that's issue free, I'm sticking with my F150.
Yes I have owned Toyotas and Hondas .
Copy that and I was being sarcastic. ?
 

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Pickups have a lot of visibility issues. You can use the mirrors and look back and still there could basically be a battle ship hidden back there behind the tailgate. They sit higher than they used to, and more of them are crew cabs that put the rear window further away from the driver.

With passenger cars, the styling has evolved to accept larger blind spots because manufacturers figure there's cameras to show you everything now. The butts of cars are very high now, trunks slant upward and the pillars have gotten huge. As if car manufacturers were like 'they have cameras now so they don't need good rearward visiblity, we can fully ramp up the wedge shape trend.'

Vehicles have evolved in such a way that drivers depend on cameras more than they used to.

I drove an 09 Crewmax Tundra for 13 years and did fine without the rear view camera, but found parallel parking and tight maneuvers far easier once I put one in. Took the guess work out of where exactly I was at risk of making contact in the rear. My 6.5 foot Bed Supercrew with the 360 system is both the longest and also easiest to precisely place vehicle I have ever owned due to the tech. Takes the guess work out of where I might make contact front or rear.

I work in a down town area and once on my walk to lunch watched a building contractor in an F350 Longbed Crew slide into a parallel spot like it was nothing using his cameras. Don't care what a Grand Master you, are, you're not doing what I watched this guy do as easily and quickly as he did it without technology. With no cameras a lot of people would have passed on the spot and paid exorbitant truck rates to get into a surface lot.

It's one of those things we all survived without but which I think have understandably become like crack to a lot of people since their use was expanded. Like, there was a time where we survived getting up to turn the TV channel manually. Then the remote was invented and we had both options, then TVs evolved with more screen and less panel and buttons to make manually changing the channel extremely difficult, and you're kind of screwed if you can't find your remote.

I could survive if my camera system went down but I don't really want to have to.
 
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Reading here about those members that are frustrated with the long wait and no info for special orders. I waited for 5 months before delivery after ordering my '23 KRPB. I'm reminded of this because my wife and I took day trip this past Saturday. This truck is such a pleasure to drive for long distances. We arrive rested, not stressed, and have enjoyed the entire journey, mostly thanks to the comfort and conveniences in the vehicle. I have owned other Ford trucks in the past, but this one is the most enjoyable model I have ever experienced.
 

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Any ideas on how long the sales hold or fix will take?
I drove 2.5 hours yesterday to purchase a '21 F150 Lariat and found out from the dealer when we were 30 minutes away that they couldn't sell me the vehicle. I just sold my truck and have my heart set on a loaded 21/22 Lariat, and now I am stuck waiting.
 

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Any ideas on how long the sales hold or fix will take?
I drove 2.5 hours yesterday to purchase a '21 F150 Lariat and found out from the dealer when we were 30 minutes away that they couldn't sell me the vehicle. I just sold my truck and have my heart set on a loaded 21/22 Lariat, and now I am stuck waiting.
So a used vehicle also has a stop-sell on it due to the recall?
That's crazy
 

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So a used vehicle also has a stop-sell on it due to the recall?
That's crazy
Not quite as crazy as Ford in our nanny-state country stop-selling to cut the lower DRL wires on Lariats to be compliant with Australian Design Rules ?
 
 







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