EREV Hybrid F-150 Lightning Announced!

[dadrew]

Bonus!
Except PowerBoost resales may tank as well.
Oh well, perhaps we keep the PB too!

I’m totally fine with keeping two trucks. Just don’t tell my wife

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[XLT22]

Reading the responses on the ICE F150 forum is a DRASTICALLY different tone than reading the comments on the lightning forum

seems kinda cool. Curious what specs will look like

Eh it's understandable once you go all EV. Never having to deal with gas stations or service (outside of rotating tires) is very nice.

It's definitely bittersweet to see the "skunkworks" Lightning sunset but in the end it was only ever meant to be a stopgap. Beating GM to the punch was a monster effort. In the end it delivered a truck that was obsolete the moment it rolled off the line but a great vehicle nonetheless.

EREV is potentially a great thing provided people actually charge it at home. The bigger story is going to be the BEV Ranger sized midsize truck coming in just over a year. That is going to be the bigger seller, IMO. Lots of fleet managers have started shifting to midsize trucks in the last few years. They're somewhat cheaper to run and far more maneuverable. I'd personally prefer something Ranger sized anyway and I doubt I'm alone.

I do have to laugh a bit at the use of buzzwords like "affordability" referring to future products. Enough inflation is already primed in the pipeline caused by tax cuts and tariffs that I can't see any combustion vehicle coming from GM or Ford being competitive on price. All OEs have access to the same data. That data very clearly shows the economics of large scale combustion powered vehicles falls apart vs EVs within a decade. Even with the current administration attempting to cut the battery industry off at the knees it still won't avoid that. In the end it's all about China. Ford and GM would greatly prefer to partner with or outright purchase cells from Chinese companies like CATL but the current political climate makes that improbable. If the trade situation sorts itself out that would be beneficial for consumers but long term detrimental to national security as we'll be even more beholden to China than we were before.

 

[discothan]

Sign me up.

 

[Mathmatic]

I hope they make it with huge pro-power capability something like a 24kw or 48kw pro power. I also hope it will have good payload and be available with a wide range of configurations.

 

[flixden]

I hope they make it with huge pro-power capability something like a 24kw or 48kw pro power. I also hope it will have good payload and be available with a wide range of configurations.

Curious as to why so much power? That would be more than a 200A service to a house. Big and heavy wires, maybe not really practical?

 

[Aonarch]

I'm very interested.

BEV full size trucks are dumb as hell. The battery technology isn't there yet. Too big, too heavy, not enough range.

 

[Bobcatou]

I believe GM already did this tech with the Volt

 

[Samson16]

I believe GM already did this tech with the Volt

You’re right it was GM, but not with their Volt. GM’s Electro Motive Division EMD was highly successful with their FT Freight Locomotives.

 

[Kodiak]

Bonus!
Except PowerBoost resales may tank as well.
Oh well, perhaps we keep the PB too!

I would not be surprised if the sun sets on the PB too. This is really what most PB owners would have preferred. The ability to get at least 100+ miles of electric driving from plug in would probably cover most peoples daily driving.

The only drawback I see is capacity. This might be restrictive for payload and perhaps the PB will remain an option to get towing and hauling crowds business.

Capacity is where the specs for the Ram 1500 REV (formally Ramcharger) shines. If Ford can come out with an F-150 (Light) and F-250 (Capacity) EREV they should really fill all the slots.

Maybe Ford will surprise us and the F-150 model will deliver capacity but I kind of doubt it. They will probably look to see the demand and if it is there, move the tech to the 250 for the people that need those higher specs.

 

[Samson16]

I would not be surprised if the sun sets on the PB too. This is really what most PB owners would have preferred. The ability to get at least 100+ miles of electric driving from plug in would probably cover most peoples daily driving.

The only drawback I see is capacity. This might be restrictive for payload and perhaps the PB will remain an option to get towing and hauling crowds business.

Capacity is where the specs for the Ram 1500 REV (formally Ramcharger) shines. If Ford can come out with an F-150 (Light) and F-250 (Capacity) EREV they should really fill all the slots.

Maybe Ford will surprise us and the F-150 model will deliver capacity but I kind of doubt it. They will probably look to see the demand and if it is there, move the tech to the 250 for the people that need those higher specs.

I think the current Lightning with extended range battery is a good starting point.

Curb weight approx 6,800lbs
Payload approx 2,000lbs
Towing approx 10,000lbs

Those numbers are within striking range of the mythical Ramcharger

 

[UGADawg96]

 

[Jmitchelltfo]

21 pages in less than a day!

I only read through the first two pages, I couldn't take any more of the pearl clutching posts. There are some seriously soft dudes over there.

Count me as interested......but after spending some time in my son's 2005 Grand Marquis I'm considering going back to a 10th gen F150 with an LS swap. Getting away from the complexity of modern pickups has a certain nostalgic appeal to me.

 

[jkosh22]

Only thing I can think of now is ….
Watts up now ram.

 

[Mathmatic]

Curious as to why so much power? That would be more than a 200A service to a house. Big and heavy wires, maybe not really practical?

I would like it to be able to be used as a home back up generator. With the battery the generator would be used in a much efficient way.

 

[Kodiak]

I think the current Lightning with extended range battery is a good starting point.

Curb weight approx 6,800lbs
Payload approx 2,000lbs
Towing approx 10,000lbs

Those numbers are within striking range of the mythical Ramcharger

If a nicely equipped new EREV Lightning F-150 could give numbers like that without Max Load and Max that packages, it would be a total winner.

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