Dip stick plug - why Ford?

[FirstFord]

Did you see that in the factory service manual, or are you making an assumption? Plenty of composite pieces on engines that aren't single-use just because they're composite.

I read that in another forum. That's also why I forwarded the information with the preface of, "It's my understanding....." However, it also fit the mold as to explaining why the dealership replaced the pan of @Mosey 's truck.

I believe Ford currently considers the 10r80 pan, as well as seals and gaskets are reusable if not damaged.

I hope so! When I first read elsewhere that it was a one-time use item, it left me shaking my head. You noted that you "belive Ford currently considers the pan to be reusable". Perhaps the information that I read was outdated and unknowingly presented as current. In either case, from what you and @hotrodmex are saying, it sounds like it is incorrect.

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[Snakebitten]

There's probably some confusion because some composite pans ARE single time use. For example, the 2.7 oil pan. Which from its first generation was a notorious leaker.

 

[FirstFord]

There's probably some confusion because some composite pans ARE single time use. For example, the 2.7 oil pan. Which from its first generation was a notorious leaker.

Ah ha! That may very well explain some things. I can see where some confusion can exist...

 

[HammaMan]

How'd they fit 12qts of fluid into that thing simply changing the pan!?

 

[Snakebitten]

Good question.
That would require the thermostat to be removed, unless it was hot when they dropped the pan.
And then there's the torque converter.

Although I think they can do a full fluid exchange if they have one of those expensive flush machines that heats the fluid and pumps?

 

[HammaMan]

Honestly I bet they just swapped the pan and put in the missing fluid and called it good, billing for 12.

 

[Mosey]

I am wondering if the transmission cooler lines and radiator drain back? The max tow package has a different cooler than the standard that is placed next to the pan. Max tow lines run forward, presumably to a radiator.

Now that the work is complete I am going to do a cold fluid level check. Of course I am assuming the tranny was filled and checked correctly during the servicing.

 

[FirstFord]

I did not know the pan was single use. Thanks for explaining that.

Looking like that nugget of info that I passed along may have very well been incorrect. Wasn't trying to mislead you - was just trying to help / provide a possible explanation, as that was my understanding, as per another forum.

I'm so old-school that the idea of a plastic / composite pan still just blows me away!

 

[Snakebitten]

I am wondering if the transmission cooler lines and radiator drain back? The max tow package has a different cooler than the standard that is placed next to the pan. Max tow lines run forward, presumably to a radiator.

Now that the work is complete I am going to do a cold fluid level check. Of course I am assuming the tranny was filled and checked correctly during the servicing.

I was unaware of any differences in the 10r80 cooling between any towing package.

 

[Mosey]

Yes sir. When I was under trying g to get the darn plug out I saw there was as no cooler. I was expecting to see one as all of the videos show having to remove it for the pan drop. I’ll post a pick or two when I put my skid plate back on.

 

[Snakebitten]

I believe the cooler is mounted up on the side of the transmission.
Ford relocated it from underneath the bell housing in 2021

 

[Snakebitten]

Press 2021

Current location

 

[Mosey]

here is a pick looking forward.

 

[Mosey]

Press 2021

Current location

I was expecting to see what you show in the first diagram. Given the heat exchanger (second diagram) I do wonder if it drains under gravity?

what I thought were lines for trans fluid to move forward are coolant lines for the fluid to water heat exchanger.

 

[Gros Ventre]

With regard to rounding off the drain pan plug: Consider a flare nut wrench or a crows foot version of the flare nut wrench. The extra ears on the flare nut wrench are specifically there to prevent rounding off.

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