Another 10R80 RECALL

[Porpoise Hork]

No surprise that the aftermarket specialist can look for low hanging fruit and then offer superior components relative to the mass production oem.

Or put another way, it's not going to be hard to convince me that their valve body is superior. But then so would an oem valve body if it was hand assembled with intense scrutiny to tolerances and quality control.

I've now had 3 personal 10r80 equipped trucks for a combined 8+ years. And the family fleet has had a couple more. Statistically, we have probably been fortunate because there hasn't ever even been a warranty repair necessary. And all but 1 of them are still under 5/60 or ESP warranty.

If I were to ever require a repair or rebuild on my own dime, I absolutely would pony up for superior components. Although I'm not exactly sure which, at this point.

This is my second truck with a 10R80 and so far so good knocking on wood (ie: my head). While only having a combined 45K miles between them, 25K on the Ranger and another 20K on the PB, the only issue I've had was Ford under filling the both of them with fluid. I may seriously consider installing a kit like this when it comes time to change the trans filter when it hits 50-60K.

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[FirstNewFord]

The well publicized transmission issues with Ford was the main reason I ponied up the extra cash for the 100K warrantee. It was expensive, but I plan to drive this coyote until the wheels fall off, and then put new ones on.

 

[spiritrider1]

I just had to replace the electric transmission fluid pump in my PowerBoost. I was getting the famous 'bump' when releasing the brake after a stop. The pump comes on to provide transmission fluid pressure to shift when in electric mode. My Dealer 3rd party extended warranty covered it with a $100 deductible. That extended warranty ends at 70k miles - in about 5k. I looked into extending it but it's much too expensive to add time/mileage now. Same with Ford's buy up. Granger won't even give me a quote since I'm over 60k miles. It's best to buy as much as you can when it's still in manufacturer warranty.
If anyone knows of a company that makes a metal pan for the PowerBoost, let me know. I've seen a few of the common brands claim to be but if you look at the actual internals, there are some differences to the non-hybrid. The pans are not the same.
I did the fluid drain & fill with a suction tube. PITA. I'd prefer a pan with a drain plug.

 

[Snakebitten]

Pans are definitely not the same for the 10r80 MHT. I wish I knew who (if) someone manufactured a pan with a drain plug.

 

[Porpoise Hork]

Pans are definitely not the same for the 10r80 MHT. I wish I knew who (if) someone manufactured a pan with a drain plug.

It simply amazes me that with the number of PB on the road that no one has come up with an aftermarket pan for the 10r80MHT.

 

[HammaMan]

It simply amazes me that with the number of PB on the road that no one has come up with an aftermarket pan for the 10r80MHT.

3 reasons -- one to wait for market saturation - ie: more vehicles on the road, more potential sales. 2 - the clones. When someone comes up with a creative way to incorporate the 2 fluid lines that run through the pan, the unoriginal crowd will knock it off as soon as possible.
And 3, those lines increase complexity. Most pans are cast or shot in 2 piece molds. Having to incorporate 2 pressurized lines into the pan including the fact that they terminate into the sealing lip of the pan, well it complicates the tooling and processes required to make it. It's much easier in plastic due to overmolding being used where the metal lines are put in the mold before the plastic is injected. The trans pan is 1 part, the MHT's trans pan is 3 parts.

Those lines are pretty critical. One flows coolant to the hybrid drive unit's stator spray nozzle to cool it down, the other controls the ICE to hybrid drive clutch lockup which is the sole clutch that ties the ICE to the trans. It's basically a trans like clutch sitting at the back of the engine that allows the hybrid motor and combustion engine to decouple --- it handles 100% of the power that comes from the ICE (aka it's a rather critical component and is located inside of the hybrid drive unit).

 

[spiritrider1]

I'd even put a plastic pan on if it only had a drain! I was seriously thinking of a way to drill a hole and mount a Fumoto style drain like I have on my oil pan. I just don't want to compromise the rigidity of the plastic with a hole that could develop a crack.

 

[HammaMan]

I don't think the bolt pattern is the same, but if it is, I could probably mod an aftermarket pan into a MHT compatible pan. The lines don't necessarily need to be run inside of the pan

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