Amsoil now has ULV ATF

[Hans Moleman]

Anyone with 10R80 shifting issues want to try it and see if it cures them?

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-ulv-100-synthetic-automatic-transmission-fluid-ulv

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[Gros Ventre]

Here are the specs. In the screen shot of AmsOil stuff it is the right hand column of specs.

 

[Mosey]

The specs look like is similar to the Ford ULV, but I don’t see any real reason to use it -yet.

 

[Tnker]

The specs look like is similar to the Ford ULV, but I don’t see any real reason to use it -yet.

This. Amsoil is like the Avon of automotive fluids. Sure it’s fine but for some reason it’s got a cult following of people who think it’s some sort of magical elixir

 

[Gros Ventre]

Depends on what you're looking for. In my case, keeping a truck like I kept my 92 Suburban (30 years), means the characteristics of the oil makes a difference and the cost is of lesser importance. I've observed that AmsOil lubrication characteristics are better than even MobilOne (which I used for the first 1/3 of that Suburban's life).

 

[Mosey]

I have no problem with their motor oils as they have a proven record. I don’t use Amsoil in my truck, but I do use it in my Harley. My issue is they have come out with the ULV fluid and it is going to be magical? Prove it. What are the ingredients? Give us hard data please. If it is better, great! I would love to see objective testing comparing it to other brands.

 

[Samson16]

For me the concern isn’t that the Mercon ULV isn’t good enough, it’s can I trust anyone to replace it properly? They made the procedure very complicated and easy to get wrong with disastrous results. I may wait till 60,000 miles unless I begin towing.

 

[SALEEN961]

For me the concern isn’t that the Mercon ULV isn’t good enough, it’s can I trust anyone to replace it properly? They made the procedure very complicated and easy to get wrong with disastrous results. I may wait till 60,000 miles unless I begin towing.

With how common this complaint is, I'm surprised no one has come out with an aftermarket pan that uses a stand pipe for setting the fluid level. Getting the trans up to temp, removing the stand pipe drain plug, and letting the extra fluid drain out until it slows to a drip is pretty fool proof.

I'm also confused by how common it is for people to have issues reading the dipstick. I get that it's not in a fun area, but that doesn't make reading the level difficult, it just makes checking the level uncomfortable.

 

[JohnTrigger]

I’m a huge Amsoil fan and have used their stuff for 25 yrs, including their red cap ATF in all my older vehicles. But they kind of p!$$ me off when they would say that their blue cap ATL could be used for ULV, that is right up until their new green cap ULV version came out which must have been very recently. The specs for viscosity on blue cap ATL were certainly not meeting ULV specs, but they passed it off as such until now. Again, you could say I’m in the Amsoil cult but I’m calling them out on that one. Their latest spec sheet still references the old Vegas taxi test on their red cap stuff. That said, I’m glad they got a true ULV fluid now but I’ll probably wait a year or two before I think about using it.

 

[HammaMan]

I’m a huge Amsoil fan and have used their stuff for 25 yrs, including their red cap ATF in all my older vehicles. But they kind of p!$$ me off when they would say that their blue cap ATL could be used for ULV, that is right up until their new green cap ULV version came out which must have been very recently. The specs for viscosity on blue cap ATL were certainly not meeting ULV specs, but they passed it off as such until now.

Yeah, their overall marketing is pure dogshit. Watching their shills on youtube push this for 10r80s when amsoil knew for an absolute fact their 100c viscosity was 50% higher than specs for the trans is just --- well inexcusable. It speaks to just how irresponsible they are to even suggest such, let alone fail to inform their influencers and distributors that it DOES NOT meet the fluid spec.

 

[SALEEN961]

Yeah, their overall marketing is pure dogshit. Watching their shills on youtube push this for 10r80s when amsoil knew for an absolute fact their 100c viscosity was 50% higher than specs for the trans is just --- well inexcusable. It speaks to just how irresponsible they are to even suggest such, let alone fail to inform their influencers and distributors that it DOES NOT meet the fluid spec.

Unfortunately there are many companies that operate this way. I can't tell you just how often I see fluids listed for vehicles that they have no business being in.

Valvoline's MaxLife multi-vehicle ATFs "meets" almost every spec imaginable. It's Mercon, Mercon V, Mercon LV, Mercon SP, and 5 different Nissan CVT fluids just to name a few.

 

[Gros Ventre]

Somewhat after I took delivery of my PB I inquired of AmsOil about whether their transmission fluid met the ULV spec. Sadly they said yes it did. Well it didn't, I looked up the spec and then compared it to their viscosity and other characteristics. It just did not meet the required spec. So I've stuck with Ford ULV so far. Will I change, maybe... thinking on it. Their other stuff has been good, but they lost a bit of credibility when they told me (back in fall 21) that their LV met ULV specs. Only now, 3 years later do they actually have a product truly meeting the ULV spec.

 

[HammaMan]

Unfortunately there are many companies that operate this way. I can't tell you just how often I see fluids listed for vehicles that they have no business being in.

Valvoline's MaxLife multi-vehicle ATFs "meets" almost every spec imaginable. It's Mercon, Mercon V, Mercon LV, Mercon SP, and 5 different Nissan CVT fluids just to name a few.

Don't knock my favorite transfercase juice! I've used that in many vehicles. CVTs always get special CVT juice though

 

[SALEEN961]

Don't knock my favorite transfercase juice! I've used that in many vehicles. CVTs always get special CVT juice though

I never had issues with it when we used it as our bulk ATF at the shop I work at, but the marketing has gotten out of control. They currently claim 95% coverage and that their one ATF is suitable for use in place of over 300 different OEM spec fluids. To me it just sounds like they are rounding a lot of numbers and ignoring key parts of different specs at this point.

It's still a good fluid to use in place of Mercon LV and other similar fluids, but I wouldn't use it in older cars that called for Dexron II or Dexron III. With Euro cars and CVTs, I try to stick with OEM fluids or aftermarket fluids that advertise meeting a small and specific list of OEM specs.

 

[Calson]

When I owned a diesel pickup the Amsoil motor oil was the worst one could buy in terms of its additive mix. For a transmission it is safest to go with the manufacturer's ATF as it has been formulated to not cause problems with the transmission's internal seals.

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