2025 PowerBoost Easter Eggs

[turbopilot]

I just took delivery of my 3rd F-150 PowerBoost Platinum 702a package truck since 2021. It is 2021 all over again with old features coming back. I am still learning the truck but here are the changes I discovered compared to my 2023 PB but with some previously present in my 2021 PB.

1. Message seats are back
2. Bed camera is back
3. HUD is new (not on my 2021 PB) with all sorts of information showing.
4. BlueCruise with the latest version including lane changing.
5. No more plastic engine cover under the hood.
6. New tailgate
7. ProPower On Board Sync page improved graphics.
8. New main instrument panel graphics and content.
9. At 200 miles everything works right from the dealer.

And very good news about OBDLink. 2025 PB runs fine with 2024 Ford Enhanced PID's in the OBDLink. Even better news the 2024 Ford Enhanced PID's have added even more modules supported and I am spotting a number of new PID's of interest I have never seen before. So more Easter eggs in the OBDLink app support in the 2025 PB.

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[Larrymoe]

I just took delivery of my 3rd F-150 PowerBoost Platinum 702a package truck since 2021.

I can't get past this line.

 

[JExpedition07]

I can't get past this line.

Probably a lease, at $20,000 hit per shot I know I wouldn’t be trading my bought outright trucks in annually.

 

[Asphaltman]

Question on your PB. I had a 3.5 eco-boost on order and the dealer messed the order up , so now my choices are to take a nearly identical truck with a power boost or submit a new order and wait three months. I had never driven a power boost and hadn’t paid much attention to them. I did just go drive one at the dealer, around the block a couple of times, and surprisingly the power felt very similar to my eco-boost. The one thing that I didn’t like was constantly hearing the gas engine start. It’s kinda like a nonstop version of the auto start/stop in the regular trucks, but one that continues all the time. At various times when I would accelerate or let off the gas, I could hear it cranking to start the engine. Has not been an issue that you’ve noticed or has bothered you with any of yours? I was surprised that the mileage is not significantly better than the 3.5. I did like the fact that when you are stopped at a light and the engine shuts off that you still have full air-conditioning functionality and power steering functionality. That’s the problem with the auto start stop in the 3.5 or other vehicles is that the fan will continue to blow, but you lose the compressor and I never had power steering functionality until the engine started again. I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

 

[turbopilot]

I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

The engine stopping and starting is the sound of money going into your wallet.

Given the pricing of the PowerBoost by Ford I find it hard to believe anyone would not take this HEV F-150. Now that it has had over 4 years to mature, there has never been a better time to experience the future. HEV''s and extended range HEV's are the future. Within 5 years most the ICE power plants, if present, will simply be powering generators not because of EV mandates, but because it is a better way to power a truck.

 

[Asphaltman]

The engine stopping and starting is the sound of money going into your wallet.

Given the pricing of the PowerBoost by Ford I find it hard to believe anyone would not take this HEV F-150. Now that it has had over 4 years to mature, there has never been a better time to experience the future. HEV''s and extended range HEV's are the future. Within 5 years most the ICE power plants, if present, will simply be powering generators not because of EV mandates, but because it is a better way to power a truck.

I totally understand that but I was just surprised that the mileage wasn’t better. I’m reading that it averages 17 to 18 around the city and I’m getting 14 to 15 in my current 3.5 which is a 2022 model year. I had a Toyota HEV rental from Hertz one time and I was pretty dang impressed because the mileage was over 30 and the fact you didn’t need to plug anything in. I definitely agree that that’s the future but as I learned more about Ford’s offering, I was just surprised it wasn’t a little bit better. I’m just curious the general opinion of them what people like and don’t like now that they’ve been out in the wild for four years. You are also correct, the current pricing on Ford basically gives you a free hybrid engine option.

 

[UGADawg96]

I'm three and half years in and wouldn't want anything other than a powerboost for a truck drivetrain. Averaging 20-21 mpg around town and it scoots. I've never heard the flywheel starter ever. It is quiet as a mouse engine off/on.

 

[Goldeneye36]

@Asphaltman the only time I ever hear the flywheel starter is when I'm travelling at low speeds around my neighborhood with the windows down. Maybe this is why at the dealer you heard it so much. Once I'm out on the main roads I believe the traction motor is doing most of the starting and it's very quiet and smooth. The only time I tend to feel the engine kicking back on is starting from a red light or stop sign in Normal mode.

The PowerBoost wasn't designed with mpg as the primary goal. It's main focus is power and utility (mainly via ProPower onboard) with mpg as a secondary benefit. I haven't driven a current gen Ecoboost to compare but the PowerBoost compared to my 1st gen EB I upgraded from is nuts. The EB isn't very laggy as far as turbo engines go but the PB eliminated any lag due to the electric motor helping out the moment you hit the gas. Sport mode is the best way to demonstrate this.

My driving consists of 95% state highways with traffic lights and 45-55mph limits and I've been averaging 20-22 mpg, just for data. I have been able to eke out 26mpg if the traffic isn't too bad and I can milk electric mode to the max.

 

[turbopilot]

I totally understand that but I was just surprised that the mileage wasn’t better. I’m reading that it averages 17 to 18 around the city and I’m getting 14 to 15 in my current 3.5 which is a 2022 model year. You are also correct, the current pricing on Ford basically gives you a free hybrid engine option.

Totally false. I typically see between 20 and 24 mpg city and highway. It does best against other ICE trucks in stop and go traffic. Just finished a round trip from Arizona to Denver. The the truck was getting around 23 mpg @ 76 mph, no wind.

 

[amschind]

PB wasn't built for efficiency. The big issue is that the ICE+motor have more than enough torque to grenade a 10R80 and the soda can driveshaft, which means that you don't get all of the benefits unless you put a lot of money into it. The chassis and transmission are only capable of supporting an electric motor+2.3L I4, i.e. the Ranger hybrid platform, but with a 3.5L you kind of get the worst of all worlds with pretty good mileage and very good torque that is still WAY BELOW what the 3.5L+motor are capable of. The killer app on the PB is the Propower, and the platform is pretty marginal with the 2.4 kW option. A PB is the equivalent of one of those big 1 tons with the giant standalone Lincoln Electric generator+welder......for the price of throwing your TIG welder in the bed. The PB will run my plasma cutter and air compressor, but if the air compressor motor kicks on, that will flip the breaker (though both are 120V, so maybe I messed up and put both on one leg...will check on that and report back).

The right answer is wait if at all possible, as the Ramcharger series hybrid layout is going to rapidly permeate across most manufacturers. The two innovations that need to be implemented are 1) hub motors and 2) an opposed piston design like the Achates/Cummins engine. BEVs showed the consumer what electric powertrains can do, and the obvious progression is a series hybrid where you get the benefits of instant torque from electric traction motors, a decent BEV range from a 20-40 kWh battery (which is small enough that it doesn't total the car when it needs to be replaced), and a hydrocarbon power source for longer range. A half ton truck that doesn't have 30+ mile battery range, 40+ MPG running on the ICE and 750+ lb-ft of torque will seem like a model T in 10 years.

 

[turbopilot]

The right answer is wait if at all possible, as the Ramcharger series hybrid layout is going to rapidly permeate across most manufacturers. The two innovations that need to be implemented are 1) hub motors and 2) an opposed piston design like the Achates/Cummins engine.

I unfortunately think Stellantis is too far down the tubes to successfully launch a truck so radically different as the extended range HEV Ramcharger. I paid a $100 to have a front row seat and so far not piece of communication from RAM. The program has been constantly slipping. Now they are trying to repatriate the heavy duty RAM trucks from Mexico and run them down the same lines at the Warren truck plant. This is not going to work for a company whose stock is crashing.

I hope I am wrong. The Chinese are cleaning our clock producing extended range HEV's for sale in every country but the US. Ford says they are working on one for 2027. We will see.

 

[Larrymoe]

Totally false. I typically see between 20 and 24 mpg city and highway. It does best against other ICE trucks in stop and go traffic. Just finished a round trip from Arizona to Denver. The the truck was getting around 23 mpg @ 76 mph, no wind.

No wind, my 5.0 does those numbers at that speed too.

 

[Nassau]

I love my 2024 PB so far. I understand that it’s not always the starter that starts the engine. I understand that the hybrid motor is used to start the engine most times when you are in gear. You get used to it and it’s far less intrusive compared to other vehicle’s auto stop/start. FYI in sport mode the engine starts when you take your foot off the brake.

Also, the A/C system is not powered by the engine. It’s an electrical system. Which is really great in hot weather. When you stop at a long light, the engine stops, but you get nice cold A/C air without pause. Same for waiting for your wife to go into a store. The AC keeps running but the engine stays off for quite a while.

 

[dochawk]

will seem like a model T in 10 years.

Just to be pedantic, it would be a Model TT, not a Model T . . .



(And the same for the A, with the AA being the truck)

 

[Goldeneye36]

Also, the A/C system is not powered by the engine. It’s an electrical system. Which is really great in hot weather. When you stop at a long light, the engine stops, but you get nice cold A/C air without pause. Same for waiting for your wife to go into a store. The AC keeps running but the engine stays off for quite a while.

This is probably the biggest thing for me. I was chronically broke for a long time in my life and became paranoid about idling the engine in my vehicles for both wear and tear as well as fuel cost reasons. Recently with my new truck I was out running a bunch of errands and misjudged the time and arrived at my haircut appointment 45 mins early. I was curious how the PB would work in that situation, so I sat in my truck in the parking lot and chilled in the FL heat with the AC and the truck "on" the whole time. The engine kicked on only once for a few mins during my 45 min sit. I was impressed to say the least.

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