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If I filled the bed with battery cells, I wouldn't have a clue how to integrate it with the software and controllers.
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Unpopular opinion - I would have preferred that Ford put off their refresh and instead focused on dealing with their supply shortages and quality control issues.

I love my F150 and have no regrets about going with Ford over Ram/Chevrolet/GMC/Toyota. But in the first six months of ownership I've had a modem connectivity issue, a misaligned front bumper, rattling door trim that needed to be dealt with, and damage to the car from the factory that the dealership had to fix.

Ford can do better.
 

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Fresh off of 2,000 miles pulling around a 7,300 lb trailer and watching the hybrid battery recharge going down big mountains in the West. So much of that energy used pulling that trailer up the hill seems to be lost as the small hybrid battery quickly tops off going down the hill. It would make a big dent in that MPG dropping from 24 to 12 pulling around a trailer, particularly in hills and mountains.
I own an EV, so can speak to some of this. Of course you use more battery going UP the hill than you could potentially recharge going down hill... that's how it works. It's not 1:1, it's nowhere near 1:1. I would be surprised if regenerative breaking is even .25:1.

The expectation that regenerative braking is this panacea of efficiency is just fake news.

That said, I would love to see Ford do a plug-in hybrid F150 to allow limited (30-40 miles) pure battery operation.
 

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I own an EV, so can speak to some of this. Of course you use more battery going UP the hill than you could potentially recharge going down hill... that's how it works. It's not 1:1, it's nowhere near 1:1. I would be surprised if regenerative breaking is even .25:1.

The expectation that regenerative braking is this panacea of efficiency is just fake news.

That said, I would love to see Ford do a plug-in hybrid F150 to allow limited (30-40 miles) pure battery operation.
when i drove the maverick in town the other day
i started watching the EV coach display and many times i could regen what it displayed as 100% regen...i have no idea if it was real or memorex , but if i took off easy and built up to 22 then braked hard at the light, it would say 100% regen..?? i found if i used brakes like a normal person I.E. smooth it only regained a small fraction
i am just a by stander as i have no idea how it all works, except i loved the AC at 60F in the 95F heat and no ice running

i agree about refresh, maybe a new color, but how bout fixing the wiper recall etc.
i like my truck as its been pretty much worry free , but it bugs me the MC seats asre still hard to get
 
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Order banks open September 13th according to "Johnny's Car Care and Reviews" I am hoping a refresh will find suitable replacements for the mandatory deleted items.
If that is accurate, that is about ten weeks later than last year, which was at the end of July.

I found posts around the internet showing that Ford revealed the colors for the 2023 MY by May 2022. Seems like everything is two months behind.
 

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The parts count reduction "goal" isn't going to be reached in weeks or months. Honestly, we don't really know what is meant by that. Is it a case of having many more components that are common to more vehicles? Or simply offering fewer options and moving to a Toyota style option package method.

I did just get a confirmation that its going to be sold any color as long as its black.
 

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We'll likely see a move in the infotainment screens that is similar to the 2024 Ranger. Standard 10 inch vertical screen while upper trims get a 12ish inch screen, also vertical.
 
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We'll likely see a move in the infotainment screens that is similar to the 2024 Ranger. Standard 10 inch vertical screen while upper trims get a 12ish inch screen, also vertical.
I'm pretty sure what little spy photos we've seen of the interior still has the current 12" landscape orientation in it. Doesn't mean that they won't change it or offer a vertical as an option.
 

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Hence the key word 'likely'. Of course spy photos don't tell us for certain what will be offered-- only Ford insiders definitively know that timeline. But if the Ranger is offering a 10" vertical orientation screen standard and Ford is making moves to have less parts, one has to do a little common sense deductive reasoning. I agree that they could still offer both orientations, but it would surprise me since they are moving to a 'less parts' strategy to lower production costs.

The spy photos I have seen show what appears to be a vertical orientation screen.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2024-ford-f-150-refresh-brings-technology-upgrades-bold-new-infotainment-system-208065.html#:~:text=As you know, the electric,way to the ICE versions.

Additionally, having vertical orientation screens (two versions) in the 2024 Ranger is likely a telling move. https://www.ford.com/trucks/ranger/2024/
 
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Hence the key word 'likely'. Of course spy photos don't tell us for certain what will be offered-- only Ford insiders definitively know that timeline. But if the Ranger is offering a 10" vertical orientation screen standard and Ford is making moves to have less parts, one has to do a little common sense deductive reasoning.

The spy photos I have seen show what appears to be a vertical orientation screen.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2024-ford-f-150-refresh-brings-technology-upgrades-bold-new-infotainment-system-208065.html#:~:text=As you know, the electric,way to the ICE versions.

Additionally, having vertical orientation screens in the 2024 Ranger is likely a telling move. https://www.ford.com/trucks/ranger/2024/
Those spy photos people think looks like a vertical screen look like the normal screen to others. Putting an out-of-scale photo of a vertical screen next to an off-angle dash shot is not convincing., especially when you draw lines over to the steering wheel in those very photos and see how it lines up like the current screen.

F-150 has historically followed the Super Duty (it did for the 12in), and the Super Duty didn't get a vertical screen when the one for the Lightning already existed. I think HUD is more likely than vertical screen.

10 inch vertical screen in the F-150 would mean more parts, as the trims and controls are different. Vertical screen in the ranger is more about dash space.

Obviously, anything can happen, but I believe none of it is supported by any evidence so far.
 

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Those spy photos people think looks like a vertical screen look like the normal screen to others. Putting an out-of-scale photo of a vertical screen next to an off-angle dash shot is not convincing., especially when you draw lines over to the steering wheel in those very photos and see how it lines up like the current screen.

F-150 has historically followed the Super Duty (it did for the 12in), and the Super Duty didn't get a vertical screen when the one for the Lightning already existed. I think HUD is more likely than vertical screen.

10 inch vertical screen in the F-150 would mean more parts, as the trims and controls are different. Vertical screen in the ranger is more about dash space.

Obviously, anything can happen, but I believe none of it is supported by any evidence so far.
Yep, anything at this point is just speculation. But the 2024 Ranger offerings (only two vertical screen offerings) show the direction that Ford seems to be going in. HUD is a possibility, yes, but I see that as a separate decision from infotainment screens.

Actually, new vertical screens in the F150 would mean less parts, given the Ranger. If you standardize it across the board (albeit two screen sizes) that means less parts, not more, especially when you do it across multiple vehicle lines. (in this scenario, you slowly phase out the horizontal screens). SHORT term, it would mean more parts, sure (in addition, one can't go back in time and change the screen setup on past vehicles). But over the long term, it means less parts if you standardize across multiple vehicle lines. My guess is that Ford is using common sense and taking a long term approach regarding cutting production costs long term.

The vertical screen in the ranger could be more about dash space, but that doesn't jive with why the Expedition now has a vertical screen option, not to mention the vertical screen in the F-150 Raptor.

And again, of course it is all just speculation. There is no evidence.....there are no production vehicles that Ford has made available yet. These are spy shots. They don't have to go through with what is captured in spy shots, even if it clearly shows what they equip it with. But typically, the test mules are indicative of what we'll get, if you go by the majority of past spy shots on Fords.
 
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The vertical screen in the ranger could be more about dash space, but that doesn't jive with why the Expedition now has a vertical screen option,
The dash on the Explorer is more svelte than the F-150 for sure, design wise.

not to mention the vertical screen in the F-150 Raptor.
WAT. You got a source on that one? Or did you mean Ranger Raptor?

And again, of course it is all just speculation. There is no evidence.....there are no production vehicles that Ford has made available yet. These are spy shots. They don't have to go through with what is captured in spy shots, even if it clearly shows what they equip it with. But typically, the test mules are indicative of what we'll get, if you go by the majority of past spy shots on Fords.
What I mean by "evidence" is the spy shots. People are throwing around speculation that is pure speculation, with none of it borne out from the spy shots, in my opinion. It's a meta argument on the validity of the assertion.
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't recommend saying that spy shots are concrete and unequivocal evidence. You'd wind up looking foolish if you did that. Are you suggesting that I said that? Lol. But you do have to use your brain and look back at how MOST past spy shots wound up regarding their predictive ability. Unless, of course, you know more about this than the guys at Ford Authority (one of many pointing this out, I'll include the link in a separate comment below). Do you have inside information? O

Sorry, I meant the Lightning, not the Raptor. But at least you acknowledged the vertical screen in the Expedition, but you conveniently ignored the space argument that you made with the Ranger. I wonder why?

And yes, I already explained that it is speculation. But you can't deny that spy shots have repeatedly resulted in accurate predictions on future changes. Not ALWAYS, of course. You seem to want some sort of a guarantee about what Ford will do for 2024 for the F-150, which is rather bizarre. But you do you, I guess.
 
 







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