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2023 F150 SYNC4 12 Inch Screen broken, Poor Ford Customer Service

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I have a 2023 F150 XLT 5.0 with 15,400 miles that was purchased 5/6/2024 in Pennsylvania. The truck received an OTA update on 6/27/24, on 6/28/2024 the 12 inch Sync4 screen became inoperable, has not returned to function since (4+ weeks). Radio plays (but lags and freezes) i have none of my 360 cameras, no trailer controls, HVAC works but is blind (i can turn temp knob far left for cold, far right for heat, thats it), i cannot access NAV, cannot access any truck settings, etc etc.

The truck was schedule for service on 7/12/24 (earliest available in my area) and i was given the unfortunate answer that Ford's direction to the service department was to "Wait for new update", "Advised not to replace APIM, Ford aware of the problem, new update plans on being released Q3/Q4 of 2024". The service department further recommended to me to contact my selling dealership to check for other solutions. I contacted my sales person, his service department gave same answer, he recommeneded me to contact Ford customer service directly.

I contacted Ford and explained the issue, indicated i primarily want the vehicle fixed, and Ford customer service initially expressed similar concerns and frustrations and recommended pursuing buyback, we went thru submitting an application/request and i was told to wait 5+ business days. As of yesterday (7/24/24) i was contacted near 5pm and told Ford was rejecting my buyback request solely on Pennsylvania Lemon Law criteria (12 months, 12,000 miles), and that they would pursue researching alternative fixes for the vehicle, and that they had no timeline on this and indicated certain days they don't work, days service departments don't work etc. Today i called in and discussed my case with a supervisor and was informed that they do not research solutions, that buyback has no customer face and their decision is their decision, and that Ford stance is sit and wait or to arbitrate thru BBB or get a lawyer. I reiterated to the supervisor that i just want my truck fixed, and that an unknown timeline for a fix seems unreasonable and bad faith business. The lack of functionality has lead me to not wanting to drive the vehicle unless absolutely necessary which is super incontinent and frustrating given payments are still being made monthly, I cannot sell the truck due to loss of functionality, and the dealership won't buy back unless directed to do so by Ford who as mentioned above wont.

At the end of the day, mechanically the truck functions, though is functioning equivalent to a late 90s early 2000s truck with a 2020s payment and just doesnt seem right to be hand tied like this by Ford.

A few questions for everyone out there: Is anyone having a similar issue with the sync screen going dead? Is there a different department or phrasing i should use when i contact Ford? Should i contact a lawyer? If so what kind of lawyer should i seek out, is it a Lemon Law Lawyer (even though the age and miles are beyond PA Laws)?

For what it is worth, I would buy another ford, completely understand parts fail, software glitches, common occurrence across all makes, however the lack of customer support from Ford is a different factor.
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I have a 2023 F150 XLT 5.0 with 15,400 miles that was purchased 5/6/2024 in Pennsylvania. The truck received an OTA update on 6/27/24, on 6/28/2024 the 12 inch Sync4 screen became inoperable, has not returned to function since (4+ weeks). Radio plays (but lags and freezes) i have none of my 360 cameras, no trailer controls, HVAC works but is blind (i can turn temp knob far left for cold, far right for heat, thats it), i cannot access NAV, cannot access any truck settings, etc etc.

The truck was schedule for service on 7/12/24 (earliest available in my area) and i was given the unfortunate answer that Ford's direction to the service department was to "Wait for new update", "Advised not to replace APIM, Ford aware of the problem, new update plans on being released Q3/Q4 of 2024". The service department further recommended to me to contact my selling dealership to check for other solutions. I contacted my sales person, his service department gave same answer, he recommeneded me to contact Ford customer service directly.

I contacted Ford and explained the issue, indicated i primarily want the vehicle fixed, and Ford customer service initially expressed similar concerns and frustrations and recommended pursuing buyback, we went thru submitting an application/request and i was told to wait 5+ business days. As of yesterday (7/24/24) i was contacted near 5pm and told Ford was rejecting my buyback request solely on Pennsylvania Lemon Law criteria (12 months, 12,000 miles), and that they would pursue researching alternative fixes for the vehicle, and that they had no timeline on this and indicated certain days they don't work, days service departments don't work etc. Today i called in and discussed my case with a supervisor and was informed that they do not research solutions, that buyback has no customer face and their decision is their decision, and that Ford stance is sit and wait or to arbitrate thru BBB or get a lawyer. I reiterated to the supervisor that i just want my truck fixed, and that an unknown timeline for a fix seems unreasonable and bad faith business. The lack of functionality has lead me to not wanting to drive the vehicle unless absolutely necessary which is super incontinent and frustrating given payments are still being made monthly, I cannot sell the truck due to loss of functionality, and the dealership won't buy back unless directed to do so by Ford who as mentioned above wont.

At the end of the day, mechanically the truck functions, though is functioning equivalent to a late 90s early 2000s truck with a 2020s payment and just doesnt seem right to be hand tied like this by Ford.

A few questions for everyone out there: Is anyone having a similar issue with the sync screen going dead? Is there a different department or phrasing i should use when i contact Ford? Should i contact a lawyer? If so what kind of lawyer should i seek out, is it a Lemon Law Lawyer (even though the age and miles are beyond PA Laws)?

For what it is worth, I would buy another ford, completely understand parts fail, software glitches, common occurrence across all makes, however the lack of customer support from Ford is a different factor.
 

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I feel your pain my friend. I had a different issue with my 2023 at 1000 miles and got the same indifferent attitude from the dealership AND Ford buyback attempts (2). All I got was NO from Ford and an offer by dealership to trade my truck with 1000 miles for a new one for an additional $23000. Disgusting behavior by dealership and Ford for a long time Ford customer with multiple purchases over 25 years. Good luck on your issue.
 

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Contact Krohn & Moss out of Chicago, IL. I used them to sue Ford (Alabama had same 12mo/12k lemon law). Ford had my truck in the shop for 70+ days for a water leak and everytime they gave it back it kept leaking. They refused to replace the carpet (Ford was refusing) that was covered in mold. The lawyers handled it, got the carpet replaced my truck and sued Ford Motor Company for 12k I got almost 10k in my pocket obviously they took their chunk from the amount they sued. Ford initially said they'd settle for 9k and the lawyers said we can get more money and a week later I had confirmation they got them to settle at 12k.

Ford corporate is a flipping JOKE!
 

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Contact Krohn & Moss out of Chicago, IL. I used them to sue Ford (Alabama had same 12mo/12k lemon law). Ford had my truck in the shop for 70+ days for a water leak and everytime they gave it back it kept leaking. They refused to replace the carpet (Ford was refusing) that was covered in mold. The lawyers handled it, got the carpet replaced my truck and sued Ford Motor Company for 12k I got almost 10k in my pocket obviously they took their chunk from the amount they sued. Ford initially said they'd settle for 9k and the lawyers said we can get more money and a week later I had confirmation they got them to settle at 12k.

Ford corporate is a flipping JOKE!
 

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Great result and I am so glad to hear that you got some satisfaction. None of us should have to resort to that. Ford corporate has no honor. They view their own customers as the enemy.
 

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Great result and I am so glad to hear that you got some satisfaction. None of us should have to resort to that. Ford corporate has no honor. They view their own customers as the enemy.
Agreed, it's crazy what Ford does to their customers. They just consistently kick the can down the road in hopes you'll give up.

**To the OP** They're at least worth a call. I believe the consultation is free. They specialize is lemon law stuff. But if you're outside a lemon law period they'll tell you upfront whether they can do or not do anything based on your situation. From start to finish it was 30-45 days and I had a check in my mailbox. But once you notify them you cannot talk to Ford (except the dealer for repair services etc)
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