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Add an external transmission cooler.
That’s the fix for your transmission.
Don’t think any are marketed, may have to do some fab work.
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I'm going to offer a suggestion: I suspect the tranny/engine coolant heat exchanger is fed by the water pump and being delivered engine temperature coolant. Is there another way if could be expected to help warm a cold transmission?

This might also explain why running a lower temp thermostat helps lower the tranny temp when it's otherwise getting hot.

Question: Has anybody ever traced that coolant line? is it just hearing to the rad, going to the water pump, or??
 

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I'm going to offer a suggestion: I suspect the tranny/engine coolant heat exchanger is fed by the water pump and being delivered engine temperature coolant. Is there another way if could be expected to help warm a cold transmission?

This might also explain why running a lower temp thermostat helps lower the tranny temp when it's otherwise getting hot.I think you are correct, usually transmission fluid flows through separate section of radiator and cycles through to heat cool transmission. So the cooler thermostat keeps all temps down. Living in Hawaii I run the 170 thermostat and usually truck is around 180-190 then cools to 170 then gets back up to 180-190 and does it all over again.

Question: Has anybody ever traced that coolant line? is it just hearing to the rad, going to the water pump, or??
 
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Summer update,,,

So the current temperature in Kuwait now is 115 F and it's still not official summer :) Just to keep you guys updated, highway trans temp is around 180-190F and I never seen it reaches more than 205F while city driving. Currently I'm always having my AC on at max so of course fans are helping lowering the temperature.

Yet I didn't try any trailing or off road, but very happy with the outcome ?
 

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I'll have to see what my transmission gets up too this summer. Las Vegas is one of the hottest cities in the USA and it isn't far from the hottest place on earth. I do have my transmission temp displayed on my dash at all times with the legit reading showing, not the stupid slide scale. Hottest I've seen it get so far is only 211F which is in normal operating temps.
 

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Summer update,,,

So the current temperature in Kuwait now is 115 F and it's still not official summer :) Just to keep you guys updated, highway trans temp is around 180-190F and I never seen it reaches more than 205F while city driving. Currently I'm always having my AC on at max so of course fans are helping lowering the temperature.

Yet I didn't try any trailing or off road, but very happy with the outcome ?
Well, that’s wonderful that you’ve gotten your transmission temperatures down. How is the engine doing? I would suspect with that low of a thermostat maybe running a little on the cool side but you’re in quite harsh environment.
What are you seeing for engine temp?
 

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Do you have the part number for the Raptor cooler kit?
I wish it was a kit. I spent a few days on some test vehicles to even see how feasible it would be which of course was easier said than done but I ended up going through the supply stock and getting what I needed. This is the majority of what would be needed if you were to order from Ford. I invoiced the EcoBoost supply/return tubes which are fine with the 5.0 it just has a hanger that doesn't bolt up in the original location for the coolant supply lines they replace. Also I stuck with the 5.2 Carnivore front air to oil cooler because it is larger.

Ford Part NumberNotes
ML3Z7869B"Oil Cooler" - Manifold that takes engine coolant to warm the transmission fluid with a thermostat that opens and sends transmission fluid to the air to oil cooler
NL3Z7A095AThe air to oil cooler that goes behind the grille
ML3Z7B028AHose from cooler manifold to air to oil cooler - Drivers side
ML3Z7B028BHose from cooler manifold to air to oil cooler - Passenger Side
ML3Z7B142BAir to oil cooler mounting bracket
NL3Z7R081BTransmission fluid supply/return tubes between manifold and transmission - V8 version
ML3Z7R081CTransmission fluid supply/return tubes between manifold and transmission - V6 version
W712146S437Bolts to retain supply/return tubes to cooler manifold (pack of 4)
8C3Z7Z465ACollet latch for transmission cooler hoses to manifold (2 required)
W720995S439Bolt to mount oil cooler manifold (4 bolts in a package, only 3 bolts needed)
W520833S439Spring nut for mounting oil cooler manifold to crossmember (4 in a package, only 3 needed)
W715798S439Stud used to secure supply/return tubes to ports on transmission housing and secures parking pawl release cable
W720157S450Clip-in retained bolt for securing drivers side cooler supply hose
W712741S450BHex nut for securing the drivers side cooler supply hose
W520822S439/W705134S442Speed clip and bolt to secure drivers side of the air to oil cooler to radiator
 
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I wish it was a kit. I spent a few days on some test vehicles to even see how feasible it would be which of course was easier said than done but I ended up going through the supply stock and getting what I needed. This is the majority of what would be needed if you were to order from Ford. I invoiced the EcoBoost supply/return tubes which are fine with the 5.0 it just has a hanger that doesn't bolt up in the original location for the coolant supply lines they replace

Ford Part NumberNotes
ML3Z7869B"Oil Cooler" - Manifold that takes engine coolant to warm the transmission fluid with a thermostat that opens and sends transmission fluid to the air to oil cooler
NL3Z7A095AThe air to oil cooler that goes behind the grille
ML3Z7B028AHose from cooler manifold to air to oil cooler - Drivers side
ML3Z7B028BHose from cooler manifold to air to oil cooler - Passenger Side
ML3Z7B142BAir to oil cooler mounting bracket
NL3Z7R081BTransmission fluid supply/return tubes between manifold and transmission - V8 version
ML3Z7R081CTransmission fluid supply/return tubes between manifold and transmission - V6 version
W712146S437Bolts to retain supply/return tubes to cooler manifold (pack of 4)
8C3Z7Z465ACollet latch for transmission cooler hoses to manifold (2 required)
W720995S439Bolt to mount oil cooler manifold (4 bolts in a package, only 3 bolts needed)
W520833S439Spring nut for mounting oil cooler manifold to crossmember (4 in a package, only 3 needed)
W715798S439Stud used to secure supply/return tubes to ports on transmission housing and secures parking pawl release cable
W720157S450Clip-in retained bolt for securing drivers side cooler supply hose
W712741S450BHex nut for securing the drivers side cooler supply hose
W520822S439/W705134S442Speed clip and bolt to secure drivers side of the air to oil cooler to radiator
Thank you very much! I greatly appreciate the information you sent! :handshake:
 

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I wish it was a kit. I spent a few days on some test vehicles to even see how feasible it would be which of course was easier said than done but I ended up going through the supply stock and getting what I needed. This is the majority of what would be needed if you were to order from Ford. I invoiced the EcoBoost supply/return tubes which are fine with the 5.0 it just has a hanger that doesn't bolt up in the original location for the coolant supply lines they replace. Also I stuck with the 5.2 Carnivore front air to oil cooler because it is larger.
Thank you for all the work put into this project and posting it.

If I'm understanding correctly you used the ML3Z7R081C transmission fluid V6 supply/return lines that worked OK with a bracket that did not bolt up, but the NL3Z7R081B transmission fluid supply/return will work fine on the 5.0?

Thanks again, I'm planning on copying your transmission cooling project on my 2024 STX 5.0.
 

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Thank you for all the work put into this project and posting it.

If I'm understanding correctly you used the ML3Z7R081C transmission fluid V6 supply/return lines that worked OK with a bracket that did not bolt up, but the NL3Z7R081B transmission fluid supply/return will work fine on the 5.0?

Thanks again, I'm planning on copying your transmission cooling project on my 2024 STX 5.0.
I’m not for certain, looking at them comparatively I would think since the block architecture is very similar to the 5.0. Also I believe the 5.2 version might have an extra bend in it that could make the already challenging install harder. It’s just a tight space to get the tubes through. I might end up removing it eventually just for peace of mind. It’s not hitting anything but just in case. Also since I have a Whipple, my heat exchanger meant I couldn’t use the tubing brackets that go to the radiator for the air to oil cooler so I ended up ditching those before the install. I say this because while I’m pretty sure the plastic end tanks are the same and only the core is thicker for Raptors, I can’t for sure say, the mounting points might be different on a non-Raptor. There’s a bunch of nuts and bolts and clips that I didn’t list but all associated parts and the diagram are easily findable through the Ford Parts website under “related parts” tab when you lookup the trans cooler, the air to oil unit might put you on the correct section faster since the cooler manifold itself also pops up for some radiator specific parts.
 
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I can’t for sure say that so mounting points might be different. There’s a bunch of nuts and bolts and clips that I didn’t list but all associated parts and the diagram are easily findable through the Ford Parts website under “related parts” tab when you lookup the trans cooler, the air to oil unit might put you on the correct section faster since the cooler manifold itself also pops up for some radiator specific parts.
OK, thanks for the information! I don't have a Whipple, but tow a lot on steep mountain grades. Thanks!
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