2025 PowerBoost Easter Eggs

[tsigwing]

Question on your PB. I had a 3.5 eco-boost on order and the dealer messed the order up , so now my choices are to take a nearly identical truck with a power boost or submit a new order and wait three months. I had never driven a power boost and hadn’t paid much attention to them. I did just go drive one at the dealer, around the block a couple of times, and surprisingly the power felt very similar to my eco-boost. The one thing that I didn’t like was constantly hearing the gas engine start. It’s kinda like a nonstop version of the auto start/stop in the regular trucks, but one that continues all the time. At various times when I would accelerate or let off the gas, I could hear it cranking to start the engine. Has not been an issue that you’ve noticed or has bothered you with any of yours? I was surprised that the mileage is not significantly better than the 3.5. I did like the fact that when you are stopped at a light and the engine shuts off that you still have full air-conditioning functionality and power steering functionality. That’s the problem with the auto start stop in the 3.5 or other vehicles is that the fan will continue to blow, but you lose the compressor and I never had power steering functionality until the engine started again. I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

What year PB did you drive? I believe that at least the 25's do not have a traditional starter, that it uses the electric motor to start the ICE.

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[Goldeneye36]

The 2024 and newer PBs still have the flywheel starter. It was the BISG that was deleted.

 

[cjm83]

Question on your PB. I had a 3.5 eco-boost on order and the dealer messed the order up , so now my choices are to take a nearly identical truck with a power boost or submit a new order and wait three months. I had never driven a power boost and hadn’t paid much attention to them. I did just go drive one at the dealer, around the block a couple of times, and surprisingly the power felt very similar to my eco-boost. The one thing that I didn’t like was constantly hearing the gas engine start. It’s kinda like a nonstop version of the auto start/stop in the regular trucks, but one that continues all the time. At various times when I would accelerate or let off the gas, I could hear it cranking to start the engine. Has not been an issue that you’ve noticed or has bothered you with any of yours? I was surprised that the mileage is not significantly better than the 3.5. I did like the fact that when you are stopped at a light and the engine shuts off that you still have full air-conditioning functionality and power steering functionality. That’s the problem with the auto start stop in the 3.5 or other vehicles is that the fan will continue to blow, but you lose the compressor and I never had power steering functionality until the engine started again. I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

Assuming everything goes as planned on Saturday, I will be flying into my purchasing dealer and picking up my 2025 Plat PB order. Order confirmed 12/12/24 --> Delivered 4/16/25.

In response to your question, I obviously do not have extensive first hand knowledge.. but.. I believe from all of my prior research and learning, the Pro Power Onboard feature is enough of a reason to grab that PB that is available for you. Everything that it can do for you from just at your house to camping is a game changer. Good luck making a pretty large decision, sir.

 

[Samson16]

I’m reading that it averages 17 to 18 around the city and I’m getting 14 to 15 in my current 3.5 which is a 2022 model year

I can’t speak for the ‘25, but my ‘22 302A gets 20 to 30 plus in the city depending on avg speed and duration of the trip.
Here’s a random pic I found:

 

[CowboyUP2022]

No wind, my 5.0 does those numbers at that speed too.

2022 3.5L EB - I am retired so drive just a handful of times each week for 15-20 mins each way (average 17-18 mpg locally). Do take 1-2 long roadtrips each year anywhere between 1200 to 3000 miles roundtrip. I get 23-25 mpg on the roadtrips (usually 5-10 miles over speed limit). And, according to my OBDLink, my Total fuel economy has been 20.3 mpg. . Very happy with the MPG on my ICE.

 

[SN-OR]

I totally understand that but I was just surprised that the mileage wasn’t better. I’m reading that it averages 17 to 18 around the city and I’m getting 14 to 15 in my current 3.5 which is a 2022 model year. I had a Toyota HEV rental from Hertz one time and I was pretty dang impressed because the mileage was over 30 and the fact you didn’t need to plug anything in. I definitely agree that that’s the future but as I learned more about Ford’s offering, I was just surprised it wasn’t a little bit better. I’m just curious the general opinion of them what people like and don’t like now that they’ve been out in the wild for four years. You are also correct, the current pricing on Ford basically gives you a free hybrid engine option.

Driving a 2022 PB for three years now, rarely notice anymore when the engine starts or stops. 42k miles and have had a few issues that Ford has taken care of at no cost. Filled up yesterday, nearly a full tank, first fill since March 31, 22MPG mostly around town. I would get another, as said in this post ICE generator powering electric drivetrain is a great plan.

 

[Asphaltman]

What year PB did you drive? I believe that at least the 25's do not have a traditional starter, that it uses the electric motor to start the ICE.

It was a 25. Like a previous poster had said I could only hear it with the windows down but slower speeds, but it was more obvious than I ever recall the Toyota that I rented.

 

[Asphaltman]

Assuming everything goes as planned on Saturday, I will be flying into my purchasing dealer and picking up my 2025 Plat PB order. Order confirmed 12/12/24 --> Delivered 4/16/25.

In response to your question, I obviously do not have extensive first hand knowledge.. but.. I believe from all of my prior research and learning, the Pro Power Onboard feature is enough of a reason to grab that PB that is available for you. Everything that it can do for you from just at your house to camping is a game changer. Good luck making a pretty large decision, sir.

Let us know what you think of your truck, I’m curious to see your opinion. This truck that the dealer has coming also includes a 7.2 generator. Well, I think it is cool, previously I had only needed the single plug in my regular truck to inflate, air mattresses, etc.. I am in the construction industry, however, Asphalt, so I’m not sure that I’d have much use myself like my guys might. I could totally see that if you had a regular consistent use for that generator that that loan would make it well worth it. It might be cool to have something new but I just gotta make sure I’m sold on it so I don’t regret it especially the way things happen with my order getting screwed up.

 

[Ziggy73]

Question on your PB. I had a 3.5 eco-boost on order and the dealer messed the order up , so now my choices are to take a nearly identical truck with a power boost or submit a new order and wait three months. I had never driven a power boost and hadn’t paid much attention to them. I did just go drive one at the dealer, around the block a couple of times, and surprisingly the power felt very similar to my eco-boost. The one thing that I didn’t like was constantly hearing the gas engine start. It’s kinda like a nonstop version of the auto start/stop in the regular trucks, but one that continues all the time. At various times when I would accelerate or let off the gas, I could hear it cranking to start the engine. Has not been an issue that you’ve noticed or has bothered you with any of yours? I was surprised that the mileage is not significantly better than the 3.5. I did like the fact that when you are stopped at a light and the engine shuts off that you still have full air-conditioning functionality and power steering functionality. That’s the problem with the auto start stop in the 3.5 or other vehicles is that the fan will continue to blow, but you lose the compressor and I never had power steering functionality until the engine started again. I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

The city MPG is significantly better than a regular eco 3.5, however, on a brand new truck you're not going to see those gains until later into break in, mine didn't start ramping up the MPGs until around 9500. That is my favorite feature, when I'm waiting while my wife is shopping in a store, waiting on the kids from school, stop and go traffic, I still have full heat, full AC, or simply waiting in a drive-thru for food that is taking forever, not burning hardly any gas. Yes, there's no free lunch, because the complexity is a little higher, but they have got most of the kinks worked out, seems like the fuses being loose or causing quite a few issues. I love my 21 PB, and obviously while camping, tailgating, working remotely, the generator is amazing.

 

[CedarEden]

Question on your PB. I had a 3.5 eco-boost on order and the dealer messed the order up , so now my choices are to take a nearly identical truck with a power boost or submit a new order and wait three months. I had never driven a power boost and hadn’t paid much attention to them. I did just go drive one at the dealer, around the block a couple of times, and surprisingly the power felt very similar to my eco-boost. The one thing that I didn’t like was constantly hearing the gas engine start. It’s kinda like a nonstop version of the auto start/stop in the regular trucks, but one that continues all the time. At various times when I would accelerate or let off the gas, I could hear it cranking to start the engine. Has not been an issue that you’ve noticed or has bothered you with any of yours? I was surprised that the mileage is not significantly better than the 3.5. I did like the fact that when you are stopped at a light and the engine shuts off that you still have full air-conditioning functionality and power steering functionality. That’s the problem with the auto start stop in the 3.5 or other vehicles is that the fan will continue to blow, but you lose the compressor and I never had power steering functionality until the engine started again. I’m torn as to what to do because maybe the power boost is not a bad option. Seems like it gets decent reviews, but it’s always good to hear from owners that have had several.

With the PowerBoost, the engine stop and start is quiet and seamless, at intersections and while driving. I am amazed at how smooth it is, because I previously drove a work Ford truck that would cut out at stops and then clunk back on when taking off. I think with the PB, the electric helps ease the transition from stop to rolling.

 

[Asphaltman]

This is all great info, thank you! Question on range. The fuel tank is 30 gals compared to the 36. What are you guys seeing as range on a full tank?

 

[CedarEden]

I find the full tank range varies depending on how I have been driving before I fill it, but the "advertised" range is generally over 600 miles. It will drop quickly if I head out on the highway . Actually range, ?‍. I never let the tank get below a quarter so I don't pass out from the cost of refilling it.

edit: I have now seen 700 miles projected range after a fill! In general, I am happy with how far I can go on 30 gallons, and I don't think I have ever let it drop below a quarter tank. I refill whenever I travel somewhere with lower gas prices compared to my high mountain prices.

 

[turbopilot]

I have been driving a PowerBoost for 4 years. The majority of the time I use the PowerBoost for long trips, not city driving.

Some observations.

1. Highway MPG with vary between 22 to 24 MPG, flat, no wind, sea level and interstate highway speeds.
2. MPG significantly improves with altitude as you would expect with a turbocharged ICE.
3. The lowest MPG I have seen was driving on flat terrain with a 40 MPH headwind, with gusts to 60 MPH for a long distance. The mileage in that situation was around 17.5 MPG
4. MPG will be lower in the mountains.
5. MPG is much better than expected in the combination of slow, stop and go mixed with full speed motion on urban interstates. I often see mileage in that situation just as good or better than constant full speed driving on interstate highways.
6. Towing a 7,300 Airstream trailer is the worst case. At sea level, no wind I nominally see around 11.5 to 12 MPG. At high elevations (above 5,000') I will see between 12.5 to 13.5 MPG, no wind. Worst case I have seen towing into a strong wind at sea level was 9 MPG.
7. Turning off Tow/Haul pulling the Airstream in stop and go conditions increases MPG.

 

[PatchManager]

I think the Powerboost is great with seamless start/stop, improved fuel economy, increased torque, and ProPower. I've powered a chop saw, portable table saw, circular saw, etc. Our other car is a hybrid, and at this point, I don't anticipate ever owning a pure ICE vehicle again.

 

[amschind]

I unfortunately think Stellantis is too far down the tubes to successfully launch a truck so radically different as the extended range HEV Ramcharger. I paid a $100 to have a front row seat and so far not piece of communication from RAM. The program has been constantly slipping. Now they are trying to repatriate the heavy duty RAM trucks from Mexico and run them down the same lines at the Warren truck plant. This is not going to work for a company whose stock is crashing.

I hope I am wrong. The Chinese are cleaning our clock producing extended range HEV's for sale in every country but the US. Ford says they are working on one for 2027. We will see.

I completely agree: I don't think that Stellantis is the solution. In fact, the awful 3.6l they're using as a prime mover is so bad that is obscures many of the inherent advantages. In fact, most of the real advantages of a series hybrid show up with 2 stroke engines (which were chased out of the automotive space and exiled to massive ultra-high-efficiency engines and weedeaters not by pollution or inefficiency, but by an extremely narrow power band). Once an engine is "on or off", then a 400 RPM power band is irrelevant, because all of the variation in wheel speed is handled by traction motors which have no direct relationship to prime mover ICE RPM. NONE of the large automakers have an engine which really takes advantage of that, the runner up being a small 4-banger like the one that Nissan has used to great effect in their E-Power lineup. I'll reiterate that the Aramco sponsored Achates F150 demonstrator with an opposed piston ICE bolted to a 10R80 got 37 MPG despite that worst case scenario, and that design benefits more than nearly anything else from engine/wheel RPM decoupling.

I've been banging this drum for years, mostly because 1) I think that the solution is obvious and relatively very simple and 2) I want a 45 MPG Superduty with 1000 lb-ft of torque and enough battery electric range to get to lunch but not so much that the battery totals the truck when it reaches end of life.

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