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Seems like the F150's engine lineup did pretty well in this comparison of half-ton truck engines.



And an earlier video covering the top three (5.0 Coyote, 2.7 Nano, 3.0 Duramax)

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But no mention of the 5.0..... :facepalm:
 

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I agree with most of it actually, except the hemi is a boat anchor, I'd take the 3.5 hybrid or non hybrid all day over that thing.
 

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No mention of the 5.0? The 5.0 was his #1 engine pick. I'm guessing that maybe you didn't watch it to the end. ?‍♂
Yes sir, you are correct, sir ! My bad :facepalm:
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I thought this was very informative and broadened my understanding of the multiple engine choices in the 1/2-ton segment. A dozen or more choices depending on how you count the hybrids.
 
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Eh, a bit of a shite comparison. Compares some motors w/ issues they're having now while simultaneously doc'n others that previous generations had and no longer have.
Typical low-effort YTer content. GM in trouble though w/ their engines on multiple fronts. AFM + its current iteration I believe they renamed, and then of course the random throwing a rod through the block issue. Lack of PB was dumb too. 600ftlbs of torque in a half ton will spoil ya.
 

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I agree, I think he probably should have had the PB in the segment somewhere. I've had all 3 configurations except for the PB, and I prefer the 3.5 (sorry v8 guys). The 2.7 is very stout, and as far as gas mileage goes (without towing), I would prefer it. If I had a smaller travel trailer or a small snowmobile trailer, probably the way I would go.

When I stepped up to the v8, despite it having more payload and capacity for towing, I absolutely hated it for the gas mileage (non towing) and frankly, the sound. Couple that with building the torque while towing at higher rpm bands (then the 2.7 or 3.5), I was happy to be rid of it. Maybe I had a lemon, who knows?

Once I got to the 3.5, it was the best of all worlds. Payload, capacity, torque while towing....smooth smooth smooth. I am currently on my second 3.5. I considered the PB but a number of factors (cost and availability being the main ones) brought me back to the 3.5.

Fwiw my gas mileage comparison is as follows:

Non towing:
2.7 - 19-20mpg
3.5 - 18-19 mpg (both models)
5.0 - 14.5 -15.5 mpg

Towing:
all 3 - 9-11 mpg depending on factors.

In a couple years, if we continue to do the camping thing, I'll consider the PB next, but cost will be a major consideration.
 

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I originally had a 2024 3.5EB Lariat on order. I had not considered the PB because of the extra cost. When my son pointed out how much he liked his 2023 PB, I went back and looked at the cost to build the PB. Due to the $1900 discount to cover the cost of the PB drive train and that I didn't have to order the max tow/haul package, it was actually cheaper than my non-hybrid truck that hadn't begun production yet. I check the extended warranty, and Ford did not increase the cost to cover the PB. Thus, it was not more expensive to get the PB, in fact, I saved enough to cover the 7.2kW generation capability. I modified my order and the truck went into production the next day.
 

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PB has all max tow features sans the axle. Springs / larger rad / and the strongest F150 frame.
 

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I agree, I think he probably should have had the PB in the segment somewhere. I've had all 3 configurations except for the PB, and I prefer the 3.5 (sorry v8 guys). The 2.7 is very stout, and as far as gas mileage goes (without towing), I would prefer it. If I had a smaller travel trailer or a small snowmobile trailer, probably the way I would go.

When I stepped up to the v8, despite it having more payload and capacity for towing, I absolutely hated it for the gas mileage (non towing) and frankly, the sound. Couple that with building the torque while towing at higher rpm bands (then the 2.7 or 3.5), I was happy to be rid of it. Maybe I had a lemon, who knows?

Once I got to the 3.5, it was the best of all worlds. Payload, capacity, torque while towing....smooth smooth smooth. I am currently on my second 3.5. I considered the PB but a number of factors (cost and availability being the main ones) brought me back to the 3.5.

Fwiw my gas mileage comparison is as follows:

Non towing:
2.7 - 19-20mpg
3.5 - 18-19 mpg (both models)
5.0 - 14.5 -15.5 mpg

Towing:
all 3 - 9-11 mpg depending on factors.

In a couple years, if we continue to do the camping thing, I'll consider the PB next, but cost will be a major consideration.
My 2023 5.0 has averaged 19.2 MPG mixed since new. The 5.0 is rated 16 City/24 HWY, unless you are on a 12” lift I don’t see 14 MPG as a possibility.
 
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My 2023 5.0 has averaged 19.2 MPG mixed since new. The 5.0 is rated 16 City/24 HWY, unless you are on a 12” lift I don’t see 14 MPG as a possibility.
Mine was a 2020. So maybe there have been upgrades. But it isn’t a possibility, for me it’s fact. Not saying it isnt possible to have better, just stating my experience. :)
 

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I am also in the ~14 MPG camp, but I see it as basically the worse case scenario - nearly 100% city driving, sort trips (usually under 10 miles between heat cycles) and winter fuel.

I have the 2.7 in my Fusion and get 16.5-17.5 (in a 4100lb vehicle) so it could be a me problem :crackup:

I really like both engines. The 2.7 is tuned so it makes about the same overall power as the 5.0 but the power delivery is very different. I really like the low end torque in the ecoboost which IMO has the better characteristics for general around town driving. I like the V8 since it reminds me a lot of the old f-bodies, but better in every way. Doubly so when you wind it out, oh boy. I am 100% confident it will be the ultimate engine once supercharged; its hard to beat forced induction plus displacement :)
 

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Eh, a bit of a shite comparison. Compares some motors w/ issues they're having now while simultaneously doc'n others that previous generations had and no longer have.
Typical low-effort YTer content. GM in trouble though w/ their engines on multiple fronts. AFM + its current iteration I believe they renamed, and then of course the random throwing a rod through the block issue. Lack of PB was dumb too. 600ftlbs of torque in a half ton will spoil ya.
I think that this comment isn't honest. As you have amply demonstrated elsewhere with real world data, the PB can output 740+ lb-ft, and is limited by the computer to protect a transmission which was designed for lower torque options such as the rest of the engines listed. I think that is an important point.
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