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Either way, you’ve gotten the most out of those tires. Aside from the uneven shoulder tread wear, it looks like you’re pretty close to the wear bars in the center of the tire. That will really impact performance in the rain, especially standing water.

I can’t tell for sure by just looking but it also looks like those tires have gotten hard too and that’s what I would worry most about.

Other than damage, during regular use, there’s really three things that will make you need new tires:

Regular wear, just the normal shedding of rubber from cornering, braking, accelerating and rolling down the road. If I have irregular shoulder wear on tires that I like and whether the alignment is correct or not; I sometimes will dismount and remount them inside out before it gets too noticeable in addition to normal tire rotation.

Heat cycles, especially if you enjoy spirited driving. Taking turns hard, braking hard and seeing the traction control light come on during acceleration as well as going really fast on the highway is going to get that rubber pretty hot. Every time you heat the tires up to a certain temperature and then park it, that’s a heat cycle and it causes deterioration of the rubber’s chemical properties beyond normal wear. The resulting change is usually reduced traction over time.

Plain old age, just sitting in the driveway tires will go bad. Especially if you live somewhere where it’s pretty hot but just sitting outside and getting UV damage, or even in a garage; the off gassing of chemicals over the years will show up on your sidewalls in what people call ‘dry-rot’ where the rubber starts cracking, sometimes even delaminating from the tire carcass. Though when I lived in the Northeast, I had problems with some tires getting moldy and even turning to weird goo or powder. Either way, that’s also why when getting new tires, you want to check the code on the sidewall to see how old they are.

Tires and trucks are so expensive now that it’s a cheap investment to purchase a tire durometer that checks the hardness of your tires, though once you become familiar with it; you can also just use the corner of your thumbnail. Then a decent tread gauge as well as a laser thermometer can all help with keeping your tires happy and your truck performing its best.

In the dry, tires that still have good grip will usually have better performance than brand new ones because there’s more contact and less tread block deformation. Some water won’t even hurt, just puddles and heavy rain. The problem is that when tires have gotten harder over time, the performance loss is gradual and it can mean a car length or more in stopping distance from even moderate speeds and hitting a deer/moose or other vehicle will cost a lot more in repairs or even insurance costs than just getting new tires.

These days, I like to go with Michelin and have had the best longevity out of them both in use and also disuse because I don’t drive a lot of miles. But Continental and Yokohama are good brands too. Though where I live, there’s tons of debris and I had a lot of problems with punctures in my Yokohama Geolandar tires that I had gone through two sets of. They were comfortable though and had good traction.

Good luck with your new tires and enjoy your truck!
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If you are doing a lease return you going to get charged for those tires , might as well bite the built and put new ones on
I’ll probably take the hankooks off the new truck and put them on the lease return. Defenders going on the new truck and will run those all year for the new 3 year lease. The Blizzak DMV’s are going on the Yukon (also running 22” Defenders on those lol).
 

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I’ll probably take the hankooks off the new truck and put them on the lease return. Defenders going on the new truck and will run those all year for the new 3 year lease. The Blizzak DMV’s are going on the Yukon (also running 22” Defenders on those lol).
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I know it is probably too late but did you ever rotate the tires? Those tires are crap and I took damage to one within 1,000 miles and they were the same as Michelins ($304). I replaced the remaining 3 and Discount Tire gave me $100/tire. My guess is you didn't rotate them but if you did, they are still cr@p tires!
 

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Garbage OEM hankook dynapro’s that everyone complains about with outer tread wear. Been fighting it since new. My Blizzaks don’t wear like this in the winter. I’ve run it 38-40 PSI fairly consistently and not much left. I’ve had alignments. I’d say the main tread is at least double the wear bar height, maybe even 3mm above. Are the outer treads too worn? I have a 200mi highway trip tomorrow with a jet ski to tow. Might just take my Yukon ffs.

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Looks like the front end need alignment. Its causing it to plow. Toe in maybe out of adjustment.
 

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Getting close to 42k miles on what I can assume are original tires on 2021 I bought used. They don't look as bad as yours do. ?‍♂
 

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I just replaced the OEM pirelli last week, with the same wear issue, 30k kilometer, in winter i install studed hakapalita nokian, and they have the same distance, no sign of wear, and I do make a tire rotation at each oil change, and I dont drive aggressivly, Now I installed Michelin LTX defender on my 20'' rim 1800.00$ at Cosco, the feeling on the road is extremly better, and the load capacity is higher with the Michelin,
 

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My Hankooks have been very good to me. Very smooth, quiet, good mpg, and better traction than any other 1/2 tire I've used previously. I'm surprised since I've tried the venerable Michelin XLT series tires twice on Toyota T-100's and had them OEM on my 2018 F-150 STX. The Toyota ones were back in the 1990-2000's and they were terrible. Couldn't balance them and extremely hard wearing - thus almost NO grip in the wet. The ones on my 2018 STX were much better in all areas except for wet traction left me puckered up many times. I expected to have to replace these Hankooks fairly soon after getting my truck but I was extremely surprised at their performance so I kept using them.
I rotate at every oil change (aprox 5k miles). At 24680 miles in Nov 2022, I freshened them up by siping solid block areas and re-opening channels where the stabilization blocks had begun to fill in the tread gaps. I did this because I was taking a cross country trip to N. Dakota and wanted as much grip and hydroplane resistance as possible. I know few will believe me but this practice has enabled me to run my tires longer than usual and offer up more wet and light snow grip than without my modifications. I'm no tire scientist but my 'real world' experimantations have proven themselves over my 57 years on cars, trucks and motorcycles. I believe the siping works to help grip in slippery conditions and also helps cool the rubber ever so slightly. The re-opening of channels allows water to exit and reduces hydroplaning. I've never cared much for closed shoulder tread patterns because, while they work well new, by mid life (or so), the stabilization bars that usually sit around half depth close the gaps and blocks water escape. By this time, the tread is shallow enough to allow removal of the tread blocks without creating tread squirm and increased tread heat. Again - I'm no scientist...
Below is my current left front. I'm at 51217.9 miles. These were last rotated 4751.8 miles (oil change) and are due for a rotation in 250 miles. The channels are almost gone on the edges and all the siping is completely gone. That's from 26537.9 miles of driving AFTER doing the siping and channelling. Hydroplaning potential has really gone up in the past couple thousand miles. Summer in Texas is hot & dry for the most part, so I'm going to sneak these out a few more months and replace them in the fall when the rainy season comes.
Ford F-150 Garbage Hankook Tires Outer Tread Wear - Need to Replace? Left Front

The left rear pretty much looks like what the left front did when I last rotated. Believe it or not, I feel like the fronts wear quicker on this truck. But then again, I don't burn rubber or accelarate hard. I like high mpg and you will see my current avg below.
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The right front pretty much looks like the LF.
Ford F-150 Garbage Hankook Tires Outer Tread Wear - Need to Replace? Right Front

And... the righ rear maybe a bit more worn than the left rear. I think this is the main drive wheel.
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Lastly, my odometer validates my mileage and Trip 2 is always reset every oil change to monitor performance changes and not rely on the truck's oil condition computer. Also, I calibrated my AFE Fuel Bias so I'm always within .2-.4 mpg of calculated value. I use Feully as well which validates my calibration. My 23.5 average is legit over the past 47k miles of every-day driving on the stock OEM Hankook Dynapro AT2's. TP's were at 35 for the first 25k miles or so, then I pumped them up a couple more psi due to the shoulder wear starting to be evident. Hoping the center would bulge a little and absorb some of that wear. Perhaps I didn't increase enough but I like them at about 37psi. Any more and it starts getting unsettled over bumps in the rear.
Looking at many other 21-23 F-150's with 20" wheels, I find most of them look like mine. This truck, even when properly aligned, will wear those edges out quicker.
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It is expensive to rely on ones tires to slow the trucck in a turn. I prefer to use my brakes which also pre-loads the suspension and reduces play. Uneven tire wear is not a tire issue but a driver issue.
 

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OEM truck tires a picked for fuel mileages boosts. Meaning they are lighter and not made for trucks. I had a 2013 that had Goodyear SRAs on it that had the same issues. I knew going in to this truck that I would be buying 10 ply tires around 15K miles regardless of the condition. Not surprised when they were similar to your with the windy roads we live on in Western NC. Be sure to get 10-ply/LT/E-load tires when you get them. The ride isn’t much different. I feel like mine improved honestly! I went with Cooper Discover XLTs cause we pull a camper long distances and I pull an enclosed trailer for work.

Garbage OEM hankook dynapro’s that everyone complains about with outer tread wear. Been fighting it since new. My Blizzaks don’t wear like this in the winter. I’ve run it 38-40 PSI fairly consistently and not much left. I’ve had alignments. I’d say the main tread is at least double the wear bar height, maybe even 3mm above. Are the outer treads too worn? I have a 200mi highway trip tomorrow with a jet ski to tow. Might just take my Yukon ffs.

First 2 pics are driver front. 3rd pic is passenger front.

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Say what you may, you have an alignment problem, an inflation problem, or both. Assuming those are the factory wheels.
 
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Say what you may, you have an alignment problem, an inflation problem, or both. Assuming those are the factory wheels.
From what I’ve read, a lot of F150s have had this issue. The problem is 2 different ford dealerships said it was in spec and I have had 3 alignments done in under 3 years. I’ve always had the tires inflated above 35 PSI. I literally drive with my PSI gauges on my instrument cluster most of the time. The tires are definitely crap for tread wear and outer tread wear on the front tires of these F150’s with these specific tires seems to be a common theme (Google it). Some have suggested it’s a factory issue but I’m not sure on that.

Wouldn’t it seem odd that my Blizzak DMV-2’s I ran for the past 3 winters (from November to April) on the exact same truck don’t have an outer tread wear problem but my Hankooks do? The Blizzaks also have tons of tread left on them too.
 

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One of the things with factory alignment specs is that they don’t account for aggressive cornering and most vehicles can benefit from extra camber. Also, I doubt the suspension is that good to maintain the correct camber angle through its full range of motion.

Also, many alignment techs really don’t care much as long as everything falls within the factory recommended specifications.
 

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By the way, it is hard to argue that Hankook tires are quality tires.
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