Will New tariffs effect my order ??

[Larrymoe]

Sure thing.

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[VRFlyer]

Sure thing.

 

[Buyer2021]

For many years Ford has provided dealer price protection upon confirmation of a customer (special) order. That dealer price protection is only valid if the vehicle is delivered to the original customer placing the order.

But it's important to recognize that the dealer is not required to pass-through that price protection to the customer (for the same reasons that a dealer is not required to sell a vehicle at no more than MSRP).

Some dealers do pass-through the price protection they get (e.g. Granger Ford), some less-than-honorable dealers don't (and keep any windfall), that's a function of the agreement between the customer and the dealer. Sadly, there are numerous posts on this forum about folks getting jacked-up by a dealer that did not 'price-protect' their original agreed sales price.

Important to recognize, too, that the Monroney (window) sticker will always reflect the pricing in effect on the vehicle's build date. That because IF the vehicle is not delivered to the original ordering customer, all price-protection to the dealer is void.

As an example, between the date my order was confirmed (same day I placed the order) and the date my truck was built (~5 months later), Ford had increased prices 3 times (!). As a result, my window sticker shows a bottom line MSRP $3635 higher than the MSRP in effect when I placed my order (with a commensurately higher underlying dealer invoice price)!

No worries, Granger was price-protected by Ford and passed that through to me, so I paid the originally agreed (below invoice) sales price. When I placed the order that was $5306 below MSRP, which ended up being $8941 below the MSRP shown on my window sticker (a feel-good number).

The point of the long-winded post is, caveat emptor: 'Price protection' is a matter between you and your dealer, not between you and Ford. You need to ensure that you know what a dealer's policy and practices are in this regard before you place your order with that dealer.

 

[HammaMan]

Some dealers do pass-through the price protection they get (e.g. Granger Ford), some less-than-honorable dealers don't (and keep any windfall), that's a function of the agreement between the customer and the dealer.

Woah, didn't think I'd see those sets of words lumped together post them ghosting one of their customers after shipping them a wholly unsatisfactory vehicle.

 

[Buyer2021]

Woah, didn't think I'd see those sets of words lumped together post them ghosting one of their customers after shipping them a wholly unsatisfactory vehicle.

Fair enuf, you're entitled to your opinion regarding that complicated saga which is totally unrelated to the subject of this thread, the context of my words, and the point of my post.

 

[JohnMcClane]

Inb4 closed.

Things will get extra spicy around here when fuel prices shoot back up in a few weeks.

 

[HammaMan]

Inb4 closed.

Things will get extra spicy around here when fuel prices shoot back up in a few weeks.

Economy has been poo for over a year, and while things are shaken up right now, the same factors that have been bankrupting dozens of large corporations are still present plus consumer sentiment is dropping. The global economy as a whole is pretty bad too which also drives less fuel consumption, less vehicles, ships moving, etc... causes prices to plummet. Plus russian oil may soon be on the public market again.

There's no indicators for any type of inflationary strain on oil currently. Refineries going into maint here in a couple months will have no bearing on supply as demand is faltering. Speculators are all too keen on driving up oil prices on even a hint of bad news. The big bump leading up to Inauguration under the promise of tariffs was a nothing burger, as was tariff announcement 1 and announcement #2. We're roughly 10% lower than the 2nd tariff announcements little bump due to speculators exiting positions with the market not responding as they hoped due to waning demand.

At least 75% of CAs oil exports comes to the US (now subject to 10% tariff) primarily to the PNW and Cali. That will be supplemented with Alaskan oil while retaining some of its supply. 2/3 of MX's oil comes to the US and is replaceable via heavy M/E oils for much less than the 25% tariff costs just about washing its impact. Of course if MX wants to compete, they're going to have to take below market rates to offset tariff impact. There's also the Venezuelan wind down currently underway fully effective April 1st which has already put into motion the M/E sourcing. Given the restoration of political standing with SA, they'll likely be more than happy to profit off all of this while buying political favor, particularly with Turkey's push into Syria. I suspect on the backend weapons and crude deals are underway. Speculators certainly don't see any $$ opportunities being present.

 

[chava0191]

most likely it will affect you.


i ordered my rcsb in May of 2024 and agreed to msrp of $46270 including delivery. when it was delievered in December, the msrp had gone up to $47065; do the math how much it went up.

i couldnt blame my dealership but Ford. Luckily, my dealership wasnt too greedy and applied a $1750 cash rebate

 

[Shane150]

 

[NH-RCSB]

Your dealer did the right thing in my opinion. An agreed upon sale price should not go up for any reason.
Hopefully my dealer will do the same if need be.

 

[Kodiak]

Woah, didn't think I'd see those sets of words lumped together post them ghosting one of their customers after shipping them a wholly unsatisfactory vehicle.

Just a correction. They did not ship anyone anything. They do not ship vehicles to customers. It is the buyers responsibility to get the vehicle from the dealership. This is where some of the breakdown occurred. Not all but some and it cannot be ignored in fairness.

 

[v8440]

Just a correction. They did not ship anyone anything. They do not ship vehicles to customers. It is the buyers responsibility to get the vehicle from the dealership. This is where some of the breakdown occurred. Not all but some and it cannot be ignored in fairness.

I'm not sure I follow; the fact that the customer arranged the shipping instead of Granger arranging it changes what in regards to the fact that they released a truck that was in such bad shape that the factory shouldn't have even released it? Granger should never have allowed the truck to be taken off the lot; it's not like they saw the damage, told the buyer, and he absolutely insisted on them releasing the damaged truck to the shipper he hired.

 

[Kodiak]

I'm not sure I follow; the fact that the customer arranged the shipping instead of Granger arranging it changes what in regards to the fact that they released a truck that was in such bad shape that the factory shouldn't have even released it? Granger should never have allowed the truck to be taken off the lot; it's not like they saw the damage, told the buyer, and he absolutely insisted on them releasing the damaged truck to the shipper he hired.

The change is that this customer showed up at the dealership and accepted that vehicle. Maybe it was him in person, maybe it was his friend, maybe it was some agent acting on his behalf, it does not matter. From any dealership perspective someone came and took possession of the truck and left. Just like I did too.

Now I know if I have some issue once I take possession, it will most likely be a warranty issue. I am 1100 miles from the dealership so it will be on me to find somewhere to have it done close to home. My option to refuse the vehicle and not take possession was lost when I, or someone on my behalf, picked it up. I could have said I am not accepting this vehicle and gone back home and we could have sorted it out. I could have said just cancel the whole thing never taking possession, and that would have been a very different scenario.

This doesn't absolve Granger from some responsibility, and they should have done better prepping but if you read that thread there was conversation about the issues before the post. It sounds like the OP was not happy about the reply or options and then came here.

 

[PGPowerboost]

Here is a Wall Street Journal article discussing aluminum tariffs and the impact on automobiles and the F-150 in particular.

 

[v8440]

The change is that this customer showed up at the dealership and accepted that vehicle. Maybe it was him in person, maybe it was his friend, maybe it was some agent acting on his behalf, it does not matter. From any dealership perspective someone came and took possession of the truck and left. Just like I did too.

Now I know if I have some issue once I take possession, it will most likely be a warranty issue. I am 1100 miles from the dealership so it will be on me to find somewhere to have it done close to home. My option to refuse the vehicle and not take possession was lost when I, or someone on my behalf, picked it up. I could have said I am not accepting this vehicle and gone back home and we could have sorted it out. I could have said just cancel the whole thing never taking possession, and that would have been a very different scenario.

This doesn't absolve Granger from some responsibility, and they should have done better prepping but if you read that thread there was conversation about the issues before the post. It sounds like the OP was not happy about the reply or options and then came here.

I see your point there about someone taking the vehicle.

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