Toyo Open Country AT3 - P vs LT?

[mdn14]

IMO the recon grappler in SL 275/65/20 is the clear winner if you live in the south. There’s just not a lot of similar options. It would be the first thing I’d do if I moved.

Up north there’s really nothing available atm that is similar with softer compound and preferably three peak

Does the Pirelli Scorpion All terrain plus not work for those of us up north? Other than the $$$

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[TheGoatman]

Does the Pirelli Scorpion All terrain plus not work for those of us up north? Other than the $$$

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Yes I like that tire but the cost is keeping me away.
I went with the 33.43 Goodyear for $800 installed instead. I can’t rationalize that $ difference for the extra height.

im kinda sour the way they priced them but I’ll live. I’m thinking they did it to gouge Rivian owners.

im hoping more options will be available the next time I need tires

 

[Yotafan!]

Out of 100 responses on people liking the toyos, there is inevitably 1-2 who dislike them. I’ll go with the odds

Owned multiple sets of Toyo AT3, and MT tires in both load range C and E on multiple trucks. They are the worst tire I've ever used on wet roads. I kept buying them because everyone swears they're great, so I assumed maybe I got a bad batch/compound. After years, I've given up and refuse to buy them. I think most of those "98" reviews you reference are from people who love the way they look in pictures and how long they last. I liked both of those characteristics! But if a storm cloud even showed up on the horizon, those crappy tires would start slipping (obviously I'm exaggerating, don't ban me). I wasted so much money with that company, never again. Now I'm trying new tires and seeing what I can find. I might end up with equally bad wet traction (that's part of trying new tires) but at least I'm not pumping more money towards overpriced toyo's just because they're trendy.

I'm running Kenda's M/T right now and loving them so far with one exception, they are louder than I want. But their wet traction is hands down better than any toyo I've owned. I think it's the compound that's hooking up better, but the tread design that's making them loud. I think I'll try their AT tire next because I really have liked the compound and I'm hoping they'll be quieter.

No attitude towards you for wanting to try them, but I have all sorts of attitude for Toyo ?

FYI my truck details are:
2021 f150 king ranch 4WD, 157" wheelbase. BDS 4" coilover lift with fox DSC coilovers and a leer shell. 48,000 miles

 

[flynnstone]

Owned multiple sets of Toyo AT3, and MT tires in both load range C and E on multiple trucks. They are the worst tire I've ever used on wet roads. I kept buying them because everyone swears they're great, so I assumed maybe I got a bad batch/compound. After years, I've given up and refuse to buy them. I think most of those "98" reviews you reference are from people who love the way they look in pictures and how long they last. I liked both of those characteristics! But if a storm cloud even showed up on the horizon, those crappy tires would start slipping (obviously I'm exaggerating, don't ban me). I wasted so much money with that company, never again. Now I'm trying new tires and seeing what I can find. I might end up with equally bad wet traction (that's part of trying new tires) but at least I'm not pumping more money towards overpriced toyo's just because they're trendy.

I'm running Kenda's M/T right now and loving them so far with one exception, they are louder than I want. But their wet traction is hands down better than any toyo I've owned. I think it's the compound that's hooking up better, but the tread design that's making them loud. I think I'll try their AT tire next because I really have liked the compound and I'm hoping they'll be quieter.

No attitude towards you for wanting to try them, but I have all sorts of attitude for Toyo ?

FYI my truck details are:
2021 f150 king ranch 4WD, 157" wheelbase. BDS 4" coilover lift with fox DSC coilovers and a leer shell. 48,000 miles

All good! Appreciate the input!

Ended up ordering the new Falken Wildpeak AT4W’s in LT/E rated ?

 

[doolin64]

We run their P rated tire on our Gladiator EcoD. It has 50k miles almost exclusively over-landing with heavy trail use. We've never had so much as a minor puncture. I was worried enough to get a full-sized spare and haven't needed it since. In rocky areas I'd air down to 20psi and still no issues. They are a fantastic tire. That said we'd avoid pure rock crawling so if that's something you're into for sure get something with a 10-ply or better sidewall.

Fantastic Gladiator. I had a Rubicon when it first came out but switched back to an F150. What size are the tires on your Gladiator?

 

[staying_tuned]

Fantastic Gladiator. I had a Rubicon when it first came out but switched back to an F150. What size are the tires on your Gladiator?

Thanks, my brother has a granite rubi and loves it. They are 35x11.5 on 17” wheels.

 

[SpaceWhiteF150]

I have good results in the rain with my Toyo AT3. Over the holidays I drove an hour plus in pouring rain, I had a great experience. I have almost 15k on my tires. The only time I’ve experienced bad grip was once at a very uneven/rocky wet boat ramp, and once from a stop in sport mode. But I think this is because I always run my tires with a touch more air, for mpg and ride feel. Usually run 42-43 in the front and 38-40 in the rear. This changes when I tow though.

 

[nrmedic]

Have Falken Wildpeaks and theyre coming off Friday and being replaced with AT3's. The wear has been good, but theyre heavy. Even an SL that I run is 51 lbs. Going to another SL, but AT3 only 44lbs, granted there is a small width difference, but same height. I ran the Falkens in some slick country roads this weekend and it was spin city, hoping the AT3's will be better.

 

[JBoost90]

I live in Atlantic Canada so needed a better winter tire than stock hancooks, I could barely get out of my subdivision with them. I decided to put on SL 275/60R20 Toyo at3 to save some weight and help with maintaining power boost MPG. As 90% of my driving was highway or city and I don’t do much towing and when I do it’s just a boat or utility trailers.
I was worried about punctures when off roading on logging roads with sharp to get to hunting and but after 2 years I’ve had no issues and continue to push through deep snow and fields when hunting and fishing.

I have put about 40,000km on them and they have worn down to 9/32. And I can tell they aren’t as grippy as when I first got them and will likely run them the rest of this winter and summer and get new tires next fall.

I previously had Goodyear duratracs on my ‘19 f150 and the snow/wet grip is not as good as those but I couldn’t stand the noise that developed after 15000-20000km on the duratracs. So far the toyos have worn very evenly and are still as quiet as the stock tires rotating them every oil change.

picture was taken 40km back unplowed logging roads the day after a storm and we were first tracks in. Was 2H the whole way no need for 4wd.

Do you have more pictures of this setup?

 

[DMuiser]

Do you have more pictures of this setup?

Do you have more pictures of this setup?

 

[Heavishot]

Have Falken Wildpeaks and theyre coming off Friday and being replaced with AT3's. The wear has been good, but theyre heavy. Even an SL that I run is 51 lbs. Going to another SL, but AT3 only 44lbs, granted there is a small width difference, but same height. I ran the Falkens in some slick country roads this weekend and it was spin city, hoping the AT3's will be better.

Did you end up getting the Toyos? If so, how do you like them? Pics?

 

[nrmedic]

Did you end up getting the Toyos? If so, how do you like them? Pics?

I like then just fine.

 

[Chili]

I like then just fine.

What's your wheel and tire combo? I like the proportions.

 

[nrmedic]

What's your wheel and tire combo? I like the proportions.

Method 316 Matte Black: 18x9 +18
Toyo ATIII 265/70R18

 

[coaster57]

This is awesome feedback! Thank you for sharing. I’ve also read amazing things about the Falken Wildpeak AT3’s. 8 months out of the year I’m driving in dry/desert conditions, however 3-4 months we travel up north into the mountains and have to deal with plowed/mountain -r-oads and some ice. I just want something better than the Ridge Grapplers, which have been really bad in just rain… i can’t imagine snow/ice.

Both the Toyo and Falkens are 3 peaks certified. I think id rather just stick to one set rather than having to store a winter set for 3-4 months of sketchy highway driving.

i almost died last year rolling down a mountain in Colorado, in the winter, due to improper tires on our rental SUV. Will do whatever is needed to prevent that from happening again

I went with the Toyo AT3's LT 295-65-20 with 2.5" level and no rub. These are 35.1"H x
11.6" W and so far so good . We'll see how winter goes.

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