Stuck between 1/2 and 3/4

[Eighthtry]

I don't like pushing limits on towing. There is no predicting when I might need additional load. F250 diesel, your choice of trim level. Include the supoerCab at least. The only thing it won't tow is your house. Otherwise it will be in comfort.

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[JExpedition07]

If you do an F-250 get the 7.3 Godzilla and retain the payload, if you want the diesel get the F-350. Can confirm the F-350 turns tighter than the F-150, the F-250+ has a solid front axle and get way more turn out if the front wheels lock to lock.

An F-250 diesel is a weird combo, it’s sort of like getting a Max chip in a 14” MacBook Pro (inadequate cooling to use the chip). Or in the case of the F-250 inadequate payload to truly see the benefit of the diesel.

 

[bgalakazam]

Towed a 31’ airstream with a 3.31 5.0 at CO elevation, no issues. I do have over 1,900 payload on my SuperCrew though.

 

[powerboatr]

If you do an F-250 get the 7.3 Godzilla and retain the payload, if you want the diesel get the F-350. Can confirm the F-350 turns tighter than the F-150, the F-250+ has a solid front axle and get way more turn out if the front wheels lock to lock.

An F-250 diesel is a weird combo, it’s sort of like getting a Max chip in a 14” MacBook Pro (inadequate cooling to use the chip). Or in the case of the F-250 inadequate payload to truly see the benefit of the diesel.

Sort of ???
My 250 is 11,100k gvwr
Hctp...basically a f350 but with a tax break
Yes 6.7 500 HP 1200 tq is over kill
But we never can have enough ahhhahhhahh

 

[Bowlerguy92]

Thanks guys. Test drove both the F150 and F250 today and enjoyed each equally but can absolutely see how the F250 would be more confidence inspiring. Didn’t find the ride to be that bad in the F250, neither did my wife or daughter. The bench seats are less comfortable than the more bolstered seats in the F150, we agreed though. It’s overall a massive beautiful sledgehammer of a truck and man does that 7.3 get down.

I’m continuing to keep an eye on configs and it seems like 2000 is about as much payload as I’m going to find on the F150 which probably isn’t enough for my family, gear and nearly 1000 pounds of tongue @ 12.5% estimated. The truck I’m sure would be fine, but I’d rather not be over gross. However, the practicality of the F150 keeps me attempting to crunch numbers and think about what kind of smart packing I likely can do to make it work.

I think I will likely end up with the F250 so none of this will ever be a concern again. My wife agreed that the anxiety of counting bottles of water and snacks against my payload probably isn’t worth it when we have a chance to just buy an F250 and be done with it.

I’d like to find a reasonably priced spec with the larger screen in it….the poverty XLT spec leaves just a bit to be desired for me.

 

[FaaWrenchBndr]

Hi all,

Trying to figure out whether I'm good with a 1/2 ton of really should consider a 3/4 for my load

Max Load Scenario:

1. Hellcat Widebody (~4600 pounds) on ~3000 pound car hauler trailer (they have a 2k pound trailer as well, just using the uhaul TH as worst case example) = combined weight 7600lb
2. Tongue weight on that load should be around 760 pounds at 10%?
3. Myself, wife and 3 year old daughter weigh around 515 lb
4. I'd have a set of tires and wheels with me, a jack, some tools, case of water, clothes etc - estimated additional payload of 300 pounds?
5. WD hitch (although uhaul won't let you tow with one) 100 pounds?
6. Taking a look at local inventory and using Ford's towing calculator to run the vin, it looks like payload for the 3.5 ecos/PB in XLT trim is between 1700-1880lb
7. Remaining payload for worst case scenario of 1700 lb payload = 25 lb / between 125 or 225 if I choose a 3.5 eco vs the powerboost.

It's close, very close and I could not add a 3rd adult without being over GVWR

Towing Profile and Scenario

1. 2-3 events a year between 5 and 8 hours each way - Family likely would be with for these
2. Once a month or so local (~20 miles) - Family likely would not be with, so I would gain back a significant amount of payload

My question to you: Is this a concerning scenario for a half ton truck or would you hook it and go? I'm trying to avoid over analyzing this but I know there are potential ramifications of being overweight, etc. I also know there are things I can shift to the trailer to ease up on some of that cargo and likely unlock some more payload. I certainly see many people hauling their race cars behind F150's, so I know it can be done. However, I don't know that most people pay attention to tow ratings, payload, etc.

Couple other things worth mentioning: I intend this truck to be the family road trip rig whether towing or empty. I also work from home and do not drive into an office daily, so the daily driver aspect isn't quite as important here, although it will be MY primary mode of transportation, wife has her own vehicle.

Thanks for your help. I know the livability of the F250 is not anywhere close to an F150 so trying to see if we can make the F150 work safely.

If I was going to tow that often and that far, I would not consider a half ton truck.

A half ton truck will get it done. However, a three-quarter ton truck will be much more enjoyable towing experience.

 

[FaaWrenchBndr]

Thanks guys. Test drove both the F150 and F250 today and enjoyed each equally but can absolutely see how the F250 would be more confidence inspiring. Didn’t find the ride to be that bad in the F250, neither did my wife or daughter. The bench seats are less comfortable than the more bolstered seats in the F150, we agreed though. It’s overall a massive beautiful sledgehammer of a truck and man does that 7.3 get down.

I’m continuing to keep an eye on configs and it seems like 2000 is about as much payload as I’m going to find on the F150 which probably isn’t enough for my family, gear and nearly 1000 pounds of tongue @ 12.5% estimated. The truck I’m sure would be fine, but I’d rather not be over gross. However, the practicality of the F150 keeps me attempting to crunch numbers and think about what kind of smart packing I likely can do to make it work.

I think I will likely end up with the F250 so none of this will ever be a concern again. My wife agreed that the anxiety of counting bottles of water and snacks against my payload probably isn’t worth it when we have a chance to just buy an F250 and be done with it.

I’d like to find a reasonably priced spec with the larger screen in it….the poverty XLT spec leaves just a bit to be desired for me.

damn an XLT is a poverty spec?

 

[JExpedition07]

Buy yourself a nice boat and a nice muscle car and you won’t care about the truck being poverty spec anymore, it works for me

My uncle drives a white custom trim 2500 Chevy (cloth manual seats and tiny screen) but has a Bentley Mulsanne in his garage. Trucks are just a tool, sometimes good to remember that…

 

[Samson16]

Thanks guys. Test drove both the F150 and F250 today and enjoyed each equally but can absolutely see how the F250 would be more confidence inspiring. Didn’t find the ride to be that bad in the F250, neither did my wife or daughter. The bench seats are less comfortable than the more bolstered seats in the F150, we agreed though. It’s overall a massive beautiful sledgehammer of a truck and man does that 7.3 get down.

I’m continuing to keep an eye on configs and it seems like 2000 is about as much payload as I’m going to find on the F150 which probably isn’t enough for my family, gear and nearly 1000 pounds of tongue @ 12.5% estimated. The truck I’m sure would be fine, but I’d rather not be over gross. However, the practicality of the F150 keeps me attempting to crunch numbers and think about what kind of smart packing I likely can do to make it work.

I think I will likely end up with the F250 so none of this will ever be a concern again. My wife agreed that the anxiety of counting bottles of water and snacks against my payload probably isn’t worth it when we have a chance to just buy an F250 and be done with it.

I’d like to find a reasonably priced spec with the larger screen in it….the poverty XLT spec leaves just a bit to be desired for me.

Is it going to be your daily driver?

If so it’s a no brainer. The 7.3 super Duty is an absolute POS as a daily! The PowerBoost is superior in every way by a laughable margin.

If you have a daily driver and are looking for a second vehicle to haul your trailer then the 7.3 SD is a wonderful choice.

 

[honda250xtitan]

get the superduty. carli coils, shocks front and rear, kryptonite sway bar drop bracket, tremor sway bar, carli rear add a pack, 35's on the stock wheels land aired down accordingly for daily driving with zero weight hooked to it.

it'll ride 10x better than stock, tow with ease, and you wont stress when you hook the 150 up.

I enjoy my 150 for daily driving way more than my 250 but towing with it is a joke. my 17 250 on 37's had a better turning radius than my 23 stock f150 lol, and my 2011 f350 turns like a go cart, its insane.

 

[Kanuck]

Stop worring.... take a lump out of your pillow and get both...plus you will sleep better...

 

[Snakebitten]

Stop worring.... take a lump out of your pillow and get both...plus you will sleep better...

I've kept my mouth shut on this thread, but you aren't wrong! ?

 

[powerboatr]

Dont mis understand me
I absolutely loved, enjoyed, etc my 22 f150
Only complaint was 18 mpg for my normal driving
But it was not used to tow heavy loads
5k was probably most
My 250. 20 mpg my normal driving
We also use the explorer ST as 2nd vehicle
It gets 20 ?
The Powerboost would have been up next
But the superduty called me back home
I have had many of them
Comes down to what makes you happy
Granted my 24 f250 got brand new transmission...at less thsn 1k miles.
Bottom line...ifvreal towed loads are near the top mark
Go one step above

 

[Snakebitten]

If they passed some law that stated a man can only own ONE truck at a time and it has to be kept for 5 years or longer, it would be a no-brainer that I would have only one choice.

A KingRanch F350 Diesel and a Honda/Yamaha inverter bolted down in the bed.

With my lifestyle, I'd have to cover all the bases, if you know what I mean. ?

Honestly, that law would probably save me money. ???

But even without such a law, the average fella self-imposes such a rule on himself. (or his wife does? ??)

Thus these kinds of threads. Which are pretty much repeats, since the dilemma is pretty common.

Ford could solve this issue for a fair percentage of folks if they simply chose to build what they once did. The HDPP F150 in all trims up to Lariat. And if they really wanted to, they could build an HDPP Powerboost XLT 302A with ~2400# Payload?

This thread wouldn't exist. ?

 

[Bowlerguy92]

damn an XLT is a poverty spec?

Lol no I think the ones I’m looking at are just the XL with the better wheels and a couple of trim bits. None of the other niceties.

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