Recall: REPROGRAM INTEGRATED TRAILER RELAY MODULE (Campaign/NHTSA# 22S17/22v193)

[JEB]

So the correct version didn’t get released to the dealer on 4/18, as was projected?
I was in last Friday and again tomorrow morning.
Sounds like maybe don’t waste a trip back to the dealer until further notice?

No to your first question. Yes to your second.

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[cghall77]

Had the truck in for oil change and sagging insulator (22S56) yesterday. The also did the trailer module (22S17).

I did a fair amount of towing last year and never had an issue, hopefully with the reprogramming it stays that way. Happy Trailering!

Edit: if they pushed the wrong update, then guess I will be back to them.

 

[FordConvert]

It’s like people don’t even read a few posts back…

 

[Revz]

Some additional info… but I think it adds to the confusion. Have a 10/21 KC build (think that makes it a job 2?) that I drove off the lot in November. I had some service done in February - before the recall, which shows up in FordPass and the widget. But the widget shows that I have the latest software version? Am I missing something?

 

[JEB]

Some additional info… but I think it adds to the confusion. Have a 10/21 KC build (think that makes it a job 2?) that I drove off the lot in November. I had some service done in February - before the recall, which shows up in FordPass and the widget. But the widget shows that I have the latest software version? Am I missing something?

No, you’re not. Unfortunately, the report Ford filed with NHTSA is not entirely accurate. Ford’s report states that it didn’t start including the recall software until mid-February 2022 and later builds. However, the software is showing up in units, like yours, built in late 2021. The report and units like yours can’t be reconciled. Either Ford got the dates wrong or they got the version of the fix wrong.

 

[JEB]

Had the truck in for oil change and sagging insulator (22S56) yesterday. The also did the trailer module (22S17).

I did a fair amount of towing last year and never had an issue, hopefully with the reprogramming it stays that way. Happy Trailering!

I agree with @FordConvert . Did you read anything before posting? This is getting frustrating. The recall software is not out yet!

 

[Revz]

No, you’re not. Unfortunately, the report Ford filed with NHTSA is not entirely accurate. Ford’s report states that it didn’t start including the recall software until mid-February 2022 and later builds. However, the software is showing up in units, like yours, built in late 2021. The report and units like yours can’t be reconciled. Either Ford got the dates wrong or they got the version of the fix wrong.

Awesome
As I mentioned, the recall is flagged in the app and FordPass based on VIN. Haven’t received a letter yet, and have been waiting to reach out to the dealer until there were consistent reports that they had a fix and/or time for the first oil change (within a few weeks). Will report back anything of interest.

 

[JEB]

Awesome
As I mentioned, the recall is flagged in the app and FordPass based on VIN. Haven’t received a letter yet, and have been waiting to reach out to the dealer until there were consistent reports that they had a fix and/or time for the first oil change (within a few weeks). Will report back anything of interest.

Several of the computer jockeys over on the ECU programming thread maintain active FDRS licenses. You might want to monitor that thread. They’ll know about new software releases before your dealer does. Might save you an unnecessary trip.

 

[SouthParkCo2]

It’s like people don’t even read a few posts back…

What are the odds that you've read/remembered all 173 posts??
It should go without saying, this whole thing is a Ford
mind f**k ... ?

 

[BlackSheep]

Several of the computer jockeys over on the ECU programming thread maintain active FDRS licenses. You might want to monitor that thread. They’ll know about new software releases before your dealer does. Might save you an unnecessary trip.

I've been checking FDRS a couple of times a week, looking for the release for my job two truck.

 

[JEB]

I've been checking FDRS a couple of times a week, looking for the release for my job two truck.

You’re just one of many practically holding a vigil for both Job 1 and Job 2 trucks. Unfortunately, a couple of the luminaries on the ECU thread are now saying that something seems to be wrong on Ford’s end and that there’s now no firm ETA for the fix.

Just rank speculation here, but there could be several reasons for this. NHTSA hasn’t signed off on the fix and that’s what’s delaying the rollout. It’s also possible that the fix doesn’t actually work or that it works for some hardware revisions but not all of them and Ford is scrambling for a universal remedy. Who knows? But the current wisdom is that a fix fit for release to FDRS is not imminent.

Dealers are only making the problem worse. Despite the mountain of evidence (e.g., BlueCruise, OTA 1.7.1 snag, February TRM release) that dealers are ill-informed and unequipped to handle the programming responsibilities of these new Ford vehicles, people are continuing to rely on their advice to their detriment.

 

[Technoskeptic]

I agree with @FordConvert . Did you read anything before posting? This is getting frustrating. The recall software is not out yet!

He was merely relating his experience with his vehicle, so what's with your snarky ad hominem reply to him?

You claim that "the recall software is not out yet" but here we are almost a month after the 22V193 "Safety Recall Report" was issued and many Ford dealers are already performing (or believe that they're performing) these recall software updates. (I contacted three different dealer service departments who told me that they've already done quite a few updates).

In light of everything that's happened so far, it seems to me that the narrative conveyed by the Ford/NHTSA documentation on the subject is grossly incorrect/incomplete and misleading and whatever is actually going on here is more complicated than a well-defined set of vehicles requiring a specific software update.

 

[JEB]

He was merely relating his experience with his vehicle, so what's with your snarky ad hominem reply to him?

You claim that "the recall software is not out yet" but here we are almost a month after the 22V193 "Safety Recall Report" was issued and many Ford dealers are already performing (or believe that they're performing) these recall software updates. (I contacted three different dealer service departments who told me that they've already done quite a few updates).

In light of everything that's happened so far, it seems to me that the narrative conveyed by the Ford/NHTSA documentation on the subject is grossly incorrect/incomplete and misleading and whatever is actually going on here is more complicated than a well-defined set of vehicles requiring a specific software update.

Thank you for proving my point. Read one (1) post up.

As for the remainder of your post, the only people I know of who use the Latin term “ad hominem” are lawyers attempting to convey intelligence. Before casting stones, perhaps you should examine your own intellectual snobbery.

 

[Technoskeptic]

Thank you for proving my point. Read one (1) post up.

I agree in part with your comment #176 (which doesn't actually "prove" anything).

Anyway, in comment #140 in reply to "sbreech" you said: "The software isn’t out yet."

Then in comment #152 you agreed with SmokedHybridFX4 that he's "good." You said "Yep. That’s the new software. New trucks that were still in production or produced after mid-February received it."

Then in comment #164 in reply to "someday" you said: "It [the software] is not available yet and there’s no ETA."

Then in comment #170 in reply to "revz" you said: "Either Ford got the dates wrong or they got the version of the fix wrong."

Then in comment 171 in reply to cghall77 you said: "Did you read anything before posting? This is getting frustrating. The recall software is not out yet!"

So up to and including your comment #171, your express and/or implied "point" was that the subject problem was simple and remediable (sorry for the big word) by a software update. Then sometime today between comment 171 @ 7:08 am and comment 176 @ 10:45 am you apparently changed your mind about the nature/complexity of the problem and associated fix.

In light of this I don't see how you have standing to criticize anyone, especially just for relating his experience.

As for the remainder of your post, the only people I know of who use the Latin term “ad hominem” are lawyers attempting to convey intelligence.

Well "ad hominem" is a commonly used term, I'm not a lawyer and I used the term simply because it describes a statement you made in reply to cghall77; that's all.

Before casting stones, perhaps you should examine your own intellectual snobbery.

The only apparent "intellectual snobbery" I see here is on your end.

 

[JEB]

I agree in part with your comment #176 (which doesn't actually "prove" anything).

Anyway, in comment #140 in reply to "sbreech" you said: "The software isn’t out yet."

Then in comment #152 you agreed with SmokedHybridFX4 that he's "good." You said "Yep. That’s the new software. New trucks that were still in production or produced after mid-February received it."

Then in comment #164 in reply to "someday" you said: "It [the software] is not available yet and there’s no ETA."

Then in comment #170 in reply to "revz" you said: "Either Ford got the dates wrong or they got the version of the fix wrong."

Then in comment 171 in reply to cghall77 you said: "Did you read anything before posting? This is getting frustrating. The recall software is not out yet!"

So up to and including your comment #171, your express and/or implied "point" was that the subject problem was simple and remediable (sorry for the big word) by a software update. Then sometime today between comment 171 @ 7:08 am and comment 176 @ 10:45 am you apparently changed your mind about the nature/complexity of the problem and associated fix.

In light of this I don't see how you have standing to criticize anyone, especially just for relating his experience.



Well "ad hominem" is a commonly used term, I'm not a lawyer and I used the term simply because it describes a statement you made in reply to cghall77; that's all.



The only apparent "intellectual snobbery" I see here is on your end.

All that work! I’m flattered. An intellectual snob and a high degree of personal insecurity. You, sir, are going to be fun.

Rather than follow you down the rabbit hole of rhetorical misdirection, I’ll simply go where you seem to be unable to—with facts.

Ford has stated in their report to NHTSA that the recall software is version MU5T-19J297-DH.

Every customer who has reported their dealer experience in receiving the so-called recall software post-purchase has reported receiving version ML3T-19J297-BA or BB, which was the TRM software released in February 2022 in connection with SSM 50226. The only people who have reported receiving the DH software are those whose trucks came that way from the factory. They weren’t recalled in the sense that they were programmed post-purchase by a dealer. Go ahead and look it up.

I’m happy to get into this with you, but at least show up with something that actually amounts to fact and not simply empty rhetoric. As for standing, I’ve actually been programming my truck and helping others do the same since January and know exactly what’s been released to FDRS. What do you bring to the table? From what I can tell, your entire body of work consists of telephone calls to dealers. Are you even capable of more than parroting?

And now is a good time for my favorite line from Tombstone (1993). “It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.”

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