payload question - hauling tile?

[Davexxxx]

I've had my truck over payload twice (once knowingly, other time didn't realize it until after the fact) and it wasn't on the bump stops. There wasn't a lot of room left for rest suspension travel, but there was some.

OP, if it's a short trip, I don't see any issues for you.

The 2 loads of rock that broke my springs, weren't on the bump stops either.

Eyeballing it, it had squat, for sure but didn't look that bad.

The first one broke and I didn't know. Just by chance, I saw half of the second one, flip out in the side mirror.

Both identical breaks. The short springs on both sides, cracked in the middle and worked themselves out.

Sponsored

 

[Davexxxx]

Just guessing here but I think some people still have a mindset of the before times, when things really were, way overbuilt, because manufacturing tolerances either weren't as precise as they are now, or it was cheaper to overbuild, than deal with failures.

Modern manufacturing isn't like that anymore.

They computer model every aspect, of every part and yes, on some things, build in some toughness but also design with the warranty period in mind, not necessarily on a generational time frame anymore.

How many times have you heard of, or experienced something breaking, just barely beyond the warranty period?

Design and manufacturing tolerances can be so close, my 90 F150 had 2 tanks. I drove a bunch back then and religiously switched them as they emptied. At something over 300K miles, the in tank, electric fuel pumps, went out, within a week of each other.

The tightness, of the design and manufacturing processes for that to happen is pretty remarkable, when you think of it.

 

[fordtruckman2003]

A lot of lighter weight weaker materials in the interest of pursuing better MPG on paper while also cutting costs. I had the bed overflowing with concrete on my old Ranger and it was squatting like crazy but no long term issues. I knew going into it that my 2021 truck has significantly less payload capacity than my old 2011. More features, but lighter materials making it less capable of "truck things." It's an acceptable tradeoff to me. If I wanted to haul heavy things all the time I would get an F250.

 

[Oxford_Powerboost]

I’d air up close to the max, but allow room for expansion when it gets hot. Say 45ish? The maximum says 51 because at 51 that’s the PSI required to handle the maximum load for that tire. Unless I’m wrong lol

not wrong about the psi being required for max tire load. Just a small point - the pressure in the tire can exceed 51 when hot. 51 is max cold pressure - I.e. before driving.

OP - I would probably raise the pressure in the rear tires some. 45 is a good suggestion.

 

[mxwrk]

not wrong about the psi being required for max tire load. Just a small point - the pressure in the tire can exceed 51 when hot. 51 is max cold pressure - I.e. before driving.

Ah that’s right. Good point

 

[cheesedogf150]

Just to close the thread on this one, me being the king of scope creep added to my order which caused it to hit ~2200lbs.

Used the utility trailer for this one. Will have to wait for another opportunity to haul something somewhat ‘big’ in the bed.

Thanks for the input all, much appreciated.

 

[Calson]

My 2022 F-150 has tires rated at 2679@80 PSI. Adding more air does not increase their load capacity at all. At freeway speeds with a heavy payload the heat from the tires flexiing is going to raise the PSI by 10 lbs so fit is foolish to start out at 45 PSI in your situation.

The problem mentioned about hauling rocks is that so very often people are clueless about the weight of the load. Put 2.5 tons of rock in a 1/2 ton pickup and one will have problems. Crushed rock can weigh between 1.5 and 2.2 tons per cubic meter and a 6.5 bed filled to a height of 2 feet can hold 5 cubic yards of rock or a payload of more than 7500 lbs. Smart move is to buy rock where it pre-weighed or where the yard has a weigh scale so you do not overload the rear axle and wheels.

My 2500 truck had to be modified with overload springs, adjustable shocks, and tires rated at 3750@80 PSI to carry the 3500 to 4000 lb loads. When it had 3700 lbs in the bed the truck was completely level with no sag at the rear.

Your stopping distance is going to be greater so a good idea to drive slower and leave more distance between your truck and any vehicles ahead.

Sponsored