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Luckily traded my 23 Tundra in for an F-150 literally a week before the recall, terrible pedal lag and "false" engine warnings.
 

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Hybrids are not affected according to Toyota, and if I recall correctly you can only get those with the hybrid. I would wager those engines have the same underlying defect though. Not sure if the hybrid powertrain truly means it’s a non issue or if this will come up again for them in the future.
The hybrids are not being recalled because they are safely able to pull over under the hybrid power. They are the same I force engine just like how the f150 3.5 is in standard and PB applications.
 

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The hybrid might blow up right outside of warranty with less idling so Toyota likely isn’t worried about it. Idk about the pull over theory. 30 HP isn’t doing jack squat to maintain your speed on a 6,400 LB truck when the engine dies. That’s the same as no power to me. The tundra can barely move on the electric motor, it needs the ICE to maintain anything above 10 MPH.
 

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The hybrids are not being recalled because they are safely able to pull over under the hybrid power. They are the same I force engine just like how the f150 3.5 is in standard and PB applications.
Yeah I understand how the engines work.

When you say “safely pull over” do you mean that when the engines fail you can still use hybrid power to pull over? Because that is not really what I would call a work around and would greatly concern me if I was in the market.
 

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The hybrid might blow up right outside of warranty with less idling so Toyota likely isn’t worried about it. Idk about the pull over theory. 30 HP isn’t doing jack squat to maintain your speed on a 6,400 LB truck when the engine dies. That’s the same as no power to me. The tundra can barely move on the electric motor, it needs the ICE to maintain anything above 10 MPH.
No doubt- that ain’t the reason the Hybrids haven’t been recalled.
 

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Yeah I understand how the engines work.

When you say “safely pull over” do you mean that when the engines fail you can still use hybrid power to pull over? Because that is not really what I would call a work around and would greatly concern me if I was in the market.
I wouldnt call it a work around, but its why they didn't put the hybrids under the immediate recall. the blocks are all suffering from the same apparent build process or as some speculate design flaw.
 

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The hybrid might blow up right outside of warranty with less idling so Toyota likely isn’t worried about it. Idk about the pull over theory. 30 HP isn’t doing jack squat to maintain your speed on a 6,400 LB truck when the engine dies. That’s the same as no power to me. The tundra can barely move on the electric motor, it needs the ICE to maintain anything above 10 MPH.
Being able to pull over and locking up a engine are quite different results.
 

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Straight from the Recall advisory:

"(2) This recall covers vehicles equipped with V35A engines of a particular configuration that were manufactured during a certain period at particular engine plants. V35A engines of this configuration, manufactured after this production period, were manufactured with new or improved processes that better clear machining debris. Other Toyota or Lexus vehicles sold in the U.S. are not equipped with this engine or have a different V35A engine configuration with different pressure on the main bearings. Some of these vehicles equipped with a different engine configuration have a Hybrid powertrain system. If engine failure occurs on a Hybrid vehicle, the vehicle continues to have some motive power for limited distances and the driver receives a continuous audible warning, warning lamps, and visual warning messages."


Section 5 ends with: "In the subject vehicles, an engine stall while driving leads to a loss of motive power. A vehicle loss of motive power while driving at higher speeds can increase the risk of a crash."

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V381-8150.pdf
 

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I was at the Knoxville Nationals Sprint Car races Friday night and one of the pace trucks was a new Tundra. Right before the A main they were pacing the cars and the Tundra engine failed and created a big oil slick in turns 3 and 4. One of the Sprint car drivers noticed it and stopped his car near it to alert track officials. The Tundra coasted to a stop and was towed off the track. Talk about bad optics...
 

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I would not wish this on anyone. I just heard about this, hopefully this is not redundant news in this forum:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60992514/toyota-tundra-lexus-lx-engine-recall/

Apparently there was "debris" left in the engine on assembly and it's eating the main bearings, among other issues.

I was 100% ready to order a new gen Tundra in late 2021, because of them being the safe choice of "quality." It might take them years to recover from this.
"Quality" is a bad word. It is not to be uttered in the parlance of automobiles, electronics, housing, air, food, or service. Please use the term "affordability" or even "availability" these carry more weight in the associated industries. To sound really in the know, weave "design-to-cost" into your posts and conversations, just no longer say "quality" especially if you are a CEO addressing The Board.
 

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I got Rid of my 24 Tundra because of poor quality. Trans ticking, rear diff grinding, low quality plastics, seals, AC whistling, poor MPG, lack of storage, paint peaking in dash, door trim flexing on handles, and others.
Luckily traded my 23 Tundra in for an F-150 literally a week before the recall, terrible pedal lag and "false" engine warnings.
What engine on the f150 did you guys end up getting?
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