Need help, Considering Used ‘22 Lariat Powerboost

[Niko_Suav3]

Hello, looking for a truck and came across a used truck a couple hours away form me that caught my interest. Wasn’t explicitly looking for a powerboost but this one caught my eye with how it’s equipped. I was pretty set on doing it but saw a couple things on the Carfax that made me pause. Called the dealer that did the service with the vin and they gave me vague answers just said nothing major. Vehicle was sold/traded not to long after the last service in May. Am I over thinking this or are these legitimate cause for concern. Appreciate and expertise and insight.

11/22/23 27,300mi

• Battery replaced
• Battery/charging system checked

4/08/24 29,800mi

• Body Electrical System checked
• Engine/Powertrain computer/module checked

5/8/24 30,900mi

• “Vehicle Serviced”

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[rtf150]

My humble opinion…possibly overthinking. Depends on previous use obviously but you will find multiple threads on here referencing battery concerns and misunderstandings with the importance etc. it obviously was not the hybrid battery. But if the previous owner failed to keep maintenance and or completed mods requiring electrical connections and failed to follow proper processes then it could easily throw those codes. Run down the battery. MINE INCLUDED! ?? Also if the truck sits unattended except for long runs…think vacation machine/camper but sat 30 Days between starts there could be concerns with battery and failing to keep solid charge.

and the list of possibilities goes on. Good luck! and I’m sure some much smarter guys than me will jump in on here soon! If you do buy it (and I hope you do and love it) you will find a plethora of very helpful threads and people willing to assist you on this forum!

 

[MLH]

If I were looking at that truck I’d be happy. Nothing really wrong with it. Battery replacement no problem. I’d go look at it.

 

[Ricksc]

If the battery is the only issue nothing wrong with that truck. Batteries have been known to cause all sorts of issues. I changed mine and went up a size no more issues. Well worth it.

 

[wessermgm]

I wouldn't be concerned at all. The OEM H6 batteries are woefully weak for the massive use Ford puts them through. All of us need to upgrade to H7 batteries (or better if you have a non PB). Just part of owning one of these things IMO. If the new battery is already H7 you are better off than it was coming off the lot.

 

[GrandpaD]

I had a '22 and had no issues after the battery was changed. Depending on the build date the '22s had a few options deletes due to chip shortages. If your dealer is showing the original sticker, I'd verify that options such as massaging seats, etc. are still in the truck.

 

[Gros Ventre]

The Battery is a non-issue as I see it. The Ford OEM batteries seem, in my observation, to have some kind of a built in weakness. I believe the manufacturer of them has used an incorrect alloy mix. I replaced my OEM battery at the 4 month point from delivery (jun21) with a NAPA, off the shelf, catalog battery for my 21 PowerBoost and haven't had a single peep out of the truck's electrical system since. That includes two Wyoming winters where temps get down to as low as -30ºF commonly with -20ºF routine. If there's nothing else an issue, go for it. When the Ford battery speaks up, replace it with a non-Ford battery. Lotsa miles on mine and still quite pleased with it.

 

[MLH]

Most or almost all batteries are from about four manufacturers. They are private labeled so if you get another battery make sure it’s not the exact same battery with a different name on it. You can look on line to see what company makes the battery you are looking at.

 

[HammaMan]

Ford OEM batts are poo, especially with the old BMS logic that didn't prioritize charging. The latest software is much better at aggressively charging.

As for buying a used PB, not a chance in hell I'd suggest anyone do such without having someone do a deep dive on the vin in FDRS first to be sure it's not a hidden lemon. This is not a quick process going over all the of the records on the truck. You want to do this privately as there are forum lurkers that will buy the truck out from under you if it's a deal, it's happened more than once here.

 

[Gros Ventre]

Most or almost all batteries are from about four manufacturers. They are private labeled so if you get another battery make sure it’s not the exact same battery with a different name on it. You can look on line to see what company makes the battery you are looking at.

Got it... However, there's something about Ford batteries that has made them be unique in the problem world. So, I infer that there's something about the actual construction, assembly or alloying of Ford batteries leading to the problems strewn throughout these posts.

 

[powerboatr]

Got it... However, there's something about Ford batteries that has made them be unique in the problem world. So, I infer that there's something about the actual construction, assembly or alloying of Ford batteries leading to the problems strewn throughout these posts.

Ford contracts batteries to be built
Just like tye HD axles in max tow and f350 that had issues
I do not have a pb...but am on ford battery #3.
For a 22 kr.
Tons of threads here about the battery charge logic or lack thereof
But last battery replacement for me netted the apim update, bcm etc
I gained many new features 24s have
There are more than a few pb afficionados here.
I am sure one or two will jump in
Give you item list to eyeball


Those records are vague...as are all of mine
If it was me....take a drive and plug in forscan to see history of dtcs, etc and check systems
Putting eyes and ears on the truck

 

[Gros Ventre]

Ford contracts batteries to be built
Just like tye HD axles in max tow and f350 that had issues
I do not have a pb...but am on ford battery #3.
For a 22 kr.
Tons of threads here about the battery charge logic or lack thereof
But last battery replacement for me netted the apim update, bcm etc
I gained many new features 24s have
There are more than a few pb afficionados here.
I am sure one or two will jump in
Give you item list to eyeball


Those records are vague...as are all of mine
If it was me....take a drive and plug in forscan to see history of dtcs, etc and check systems
Putting eyes and ears on the truck

At the end of the day, problems disappear when the Ford battery is replaced with a battery from some other source than Ford. Rationalize things as you will, even you are on battery #3... My replacement battery (at 4 months after delivery) , a NAPA, off the shelf and catalog battery (ie same size as OEM), has been trouble free for three years now including two Wyoming winters of -20ºF. Say it any way you want, the only common thread amongst all of the complaints about batteries & electrical systems is that the truck has a Ford Battery and replacing it with a non-Ford battery fixes things.

 

[Snakebitten]

Ford OEM batts are poo, especially with the old BMS logic that didn't prioritize charging. The latest software is much better at aggressively charging.

As for buying a used PB, not a chance in hell I'd suggest anyone do such without having someone do a deep dive on the vin in FDRS first to be sure it's not a hidden lemon. This is not a quick process going over all the of the records on the truck. You want to do this privately as there are forum lurkers that will buy the truck out from under you if it's a deal, it's happened more than once here.

This.
In fact, for even non-Powerboost trucks too.
You don't even need the Mongoose to do a good VIN service history. If the truck has many dealership visits, or lots of attempts to address something, or long stints at the dealership........ It doesn't necessarily mean the vehicle is a lemon, but it could mean the previous owner called it quits on the truck.

Note that even that kind of flagged service history doesn't mean the truck is unreliable. Could just mean the owner wasn't a member here and was at the mercy of a dealership to solve a problem that they just weren't savvy enough to.

Tons of examples of this kind of thing here.

 

[HammaMan]

This.
In fact, for even non-Powerboost trucks too.
You don't even need the Mongoose to do a good VIN service history. If the truck has many dealership visits, or lots of attempts to address something, or long stints at the dealership........ It doesn't necessarily mean the vehicle is a lemon, but it could mean the previous owner called it quits on the truck.

Note that even that kind of flagged service history doesn't mean the truck is unreliable. Could just mean the owner wasn't a member here and was at the mercy of a dealership to solve a problem that they just weren't savvy enough to.

Tons of examples of this kind of thing here.

Yeah, the big flag is days of diagnostics with recurring codes and just handing it back over as well as recent code resets after the dealer has taken possession of the vehicle. One truck was out of DT warranty and had a failed aux pump that the owner continued to drive which resulted in the burning out of most of the truck's clutches including the hybrid-to-ICE clutch requiring a full replacement of both units at around $9k on a truck that was clearly broken when it was sold and the selling dealer knew this because they first sent it to their ford branch to have it diagnosed and codes cleared.

 

[powerboatr]

At the end of the day, problems disappear when the Ford battery is replaced with a battery from some other source than Ford. Rationalize things as you will, even you are on battery #3... My replacement battery (at 4 months after delivery) , a NAPA, off the shelf and catalog battery (ie same size as OEM), has been trouble free for three years now including two Wyoming winters of -20ºF. Say it any way you want, the only common thread amongst all of the complaints about batteries & electrical systems is that the truck has a Ford Battery and replacing it with a non-Ford battery fixes things.

I think I didnt say this correctly
Ford contracts to have batteries built...the contract or percent of reliability must be different from other contractors
Like Napa, and other brands.

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