Multi-Contour Removal

[Callaway5280]

Looking for any insight here. I have 21 Platinum Power Boost with the massaging seats, I have a 22 V8 Platinum on order, ordered Jan 6th that just got the multi contour seats removed, any chance the seats from my 21 will work in the 22?? I'm sure it will come down to the wiring harness and software that controls them but just a thought. I'm sure it will effect the trade value of my 21, by swapping them, but will show the dealer its only a $300 difference!

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[Snakebitten]

I would swap the seat modules with the seats. The AsBuilt data in the fully dolled up seats imply that there is a substantial amount of code supporting those seats.

The question is if you did upgrade the truck with those seats, and then the truck updates Ford's cloud with the additional AsBuilt data, will the cloud adjust for features that the VIN originally didn't include? The reason that might matter is that both OTA updates and FDRS updates regarding those seat modules might not automatically be made available. Worst case scenario you could stay in touch with the forum and if the full featured seats get an update for other people's trucks, you might be able to get the files from someone like @Jesse-Infotainment?

He's such a great asset for those of us that are confronted with OTA obstacles. But I can't be sure that the seat modules can be "sideloaded". But I bet AsBuilt data could be compared and maybe Forscan could be used manually. It all depends on what future updates might contain.

Interesting proposition. Most wouldn't go through the efforts. I hope you do though.
(easy for me to say, of course)

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

The seats can be swapped. The wiring harness is in the seats. The modules are in the seats as well. The modules are controlled through the canbus and the question would be the passenger seat. It may not have the wiring there. Most likely will I don’t think ford is changing the harness. It’s hard to say 100% what the total amount of changes required would be.

The good thing is once the modules are in the truck and a network scan is ran with the modules installed they become apart of your truck in fords eyes. You will be able to PMI and configure as they were factory. You would need to make changes in the programming of the truck you are installing them into as well as the one you are taking them out of.

It’s going to be interesting if the dealer is ok with it. I’ve added a ton of stuff to my truck and it all works fine. You’ll just have to go into knowing that there is a chance for the unexpected.

The other issue could be the occupancy sensor on the passenger seat. They are calibrated ti the truck so not sure what if any issues could be caused by that. There is a bladder that determines if the passenger meets the weight requirement for the passenger air bags to be active or not. It’s sandwiched between the foam and seat frame.

End of day anything can be done it’s a matter of talking and having the ability to tackle the challenges that arise .

 

[AgieF150]

I bought limited just for that reason and having a quilted leather. Limited I believe still has these features, if they remove these features from limited then my next purchase will be lariat, platinum does not offer much on top of lariat.

 

[Antimatter22]

I bought limited just for that reason and having a quilted leather. Limited I believe still has these features, if they remove these features from limited then my next purchase will be lariat, platinum does not offer much on top of lariat.

I have a Limited on order that shows removal of multicontour and active motion.

 

[‘22Powerboost]

I bought limited just for that reason and having a quilted leather. Limited I believe still has these features, if they remove these features from limited then my next purchase will be lariat, platinum does not offer much on top of lariat.

Platinum offers quite a bit/much more standard equipment than a standard lariat does…go look at the difference in price between the two.

Many people dress up there lariats with 10-12 grand worth of accessories and tech, and then there’s not a huge difference, cuz you just spent 12,000 dollars to dress it up. But if you just take the standard lariat, there’s a big difference in what you get with that, and what you get with a standard platinum.

 

[BCM]

Nobody has paid $xx, xxx.xx for a vehicle that hasn't been delivered.
You might have ordered steak and they brought you hamburger. But you still get to make the call.
So once the truck arrives and you look it over and decide the seats that Ford shipped it with are not tempting enough to sign on the dotted line.... Then don't.

And I wouldn't blame you either way.
(nor do I blame anyone for the need to rant)

I wouldn't buy anything that is going to irritate me enough to ruin the ownership experience.

Still, Ford isn't alone in the struggle to deliver what the consumer desires.

Easy for you to say when you’ve been truckless for a year and the cost of a replacement, if you can even find one, is overpriced. Best bet is to take it and flip it for more money.

 

[AgieF150]

I have a Limited on order that shows removal of multicontour and active motion.

Wow, 80+k truck and they are removing features people wants

when I was configurations a limited, option was available but if I did lariat or platinum, option was removed

 

[AgieF150]

Platinum offers quite a bit/much more standard equipment than a standard lariat does…go look at the difference in price between the two.

Many people dress up there lariats with 10-12 grand worth of accessories and tech, and then there’s not a huge difference, cuz you just spent 12,000 dollars to dress it up. But if you just take the standard lariat, there’s a big difference in what you get with that, and what you get with a standard platinum.

I know platinum has lots of other std feature, but I will prefer a lariat and dress it up the way I want. So far motion seats were not offered in lariat and below and i really wanted the option.

so I will be skipping 2023 for upgrade

 

[‘22Powerboost]

I know platinum has lots of other std feature, but I will prefer a lariat and dress it up the way I want. So far motion seats were not offered in lariat and below and i really wanted the option.

so I will be skipping 2023 for upgrade

I don’t blame you for wanting that option at all. It should be there. But you said there isn’t much difference between the lariat and a platinum, and that’s not even close to being true. There’s a huge difference, and the price level between the two is proof positive of that.

To dress it up to platinum levels youll have to spend a heap of money…might as well just get a Platinum at that point. Unless of course you don’t like the platinum trim level for whatever reason?? And if that’s the case then go for it…you’ll pay almost the same price after all is said and done though.

 

[AgieF150]

I don’t blame you for wanting that option at all. It should be there. But you said there isn’t much difference between the lariat and a platinum, and that’s not even close to being true. There’s a huge difference, and the price level between the two is proof positive of that.

To dress it up to platinum levels youll have to spend a heap of money…might as well just get a Platinum at that point. Unless of course you don’t like the platinum trim level for whatever reason?? And if that’s the case then go for it…you’ll pay almost the same price after all is said and done though.

my biggest dislike for platinum and limited is, no choice for 18” rims. Most of the platinum option I will not choose so lariat is better option for me.

 

[omegafiler]

I ordered a fully loaded F-150 Platinum PB in early Jan '22 and intentionally left it as configured since I was OK waiting to get exactly what I wanted, with all of the features included. I just got a window sticker today, and a blend date of 8/2, which has all of the stuff noted in this thread removed. No multi-contour, no park assist, no adaptive steering, etc. This is of course, on top of the other minor scavenging Ford did for 2022, such as the various LED lighting removal. As of now, no communication from Ford or the dealer.

So I'll completely agree with those who are reconsidering their options. These things absolutely add up. In particular, when my build is still over $81k MSRP despite these ommissions.

This truck has already been delayed many times, including over 5 rescheduled build dates. And due to a summer road trip, I needed a truck. So I ended up buying a "temporary" brand new '22 RAM 1500 Limited off the dealer lot for just under MSRP last month. What few F-150s were available had lots of add-ons and ADM and/or were not the build I wanted. And I've had my fill of GM issues over the past few years.

I still intended to trade the RAM for the F-150 whenever it eventually showed up. It has a lot of cool tech/features, and the PB + onboard generator is unmatched. But as noted, these "little things," combined with the still high cost, have me seriously reconsidering taking delivery or not. If I do pass, which is very likely, I'm not sure I'll even bother placing another order. After all, who knows when Ford will get their supply chain in order.

And I will admit, the RAM has kind of grown on me. That interior, ride quality... I know, this is a Ford forum, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[texski]

I ordered a fully loaded F-150 Platinum PB in early Jan '22 and intentionally left it as configured since I was OK waiting to get exactly what I wanted, with all of the features included. I just got a window sticker today, and a blend date of 8/2, which has all of the stuff noted in this thread removed. No multi-contour, no park assist, no adaptive steering, etc. This is of course, on top of the other minor scavenging Ford did for 2022, such as the various LED lighting removal. As of now, no communication from Ford or the dealer.

So I'll completely agree with those who are reconsidering their options. These things absolutely add up. In particular, when my build is still over $81k MSRP despite these ommissions.

This truck has already been delayed many times, including over 5 rescheduled build dates. And due to a summer road trip, I needed a truck. So I ended up buying a "temporary" brand new '22 RAM 1500 Limited off the dealer lot for just under MSRP last month. What few F-150s were available had lots of add-ons and ADM and/or were not the build I wanted. And I've had my fill of GM issues over the past few years.

I still intended to trade the RAM for the F-150 whenever it eventually showed up. It has a lot of cool tech/features, and the PB + onboard generator is unmatched. But as noted, these "little things," combined with the still high cost, have me seriously reconsidering taking delivery or not. If I do pass, which is very likely, I'm not sure I'll even bother placing another order. After all, who knows when Ford will get their supply chain in order.

And I will admit, the RAM has kind of grown on me. That interior, ride quality... I know, this is a Ford forum, so I'll just leave it at that.

February 01, I bought a "temporary" 22 King Ranch with a 5.5' bed while I wait for the 6.5' bed to be built. Like you, I let my order stand because we need the massaging seats for longer trips. The first communication from Ford was 5 months later, it was scheduled for Aug 15 with Active Motion Removal. I called the dealer to ask if the Priority Code could be lowered since I have seen "Late Availability" for these seats. I have talked to Ford, Chatted with Ford, exchanged messages with a Ford Media Specialist on the site ... blah blah blah. The short of it is that Ford Corporate is being run by a bunch of Morans and they don't give a rat's a$$ about their customers. The use the Marketing Reps as Gatekeepers and keep customers at arms length.

The options that have been presented to me are 1) Refuse this order (and let the dealer have it for their inventory) and order a 2023, or 2) Take this on "as-is." And here is where we have the problem. Just like you said, Ford removed features from 21 - 22 models ... and raised the prices! Even though my 22 was built in 21, it did not include the Trailer Yaw harness, which Parts quoted at $750. If I reorder a 23, I have doubt that it will be built in a reasonable amount of time, or that it will be built as ordered. I am confident that it will be more expensive and it will be a stripped down version of the 22.

In my preview of Packages, Navigation Discount is listed 3 times, my Extended Tow Mirrors and Max Recline Seats are no where to be found. When I ask Ford what does the Navigation Discount mean, or if my built will include the Tow Mirrors, I can't get an answer. Will I still have access to a Satellite Based navigation system native to the truck, or will I be forced to rely on Android Auto and cell service for navigation?

All this to say, at this point, I do not trust Ford. The new philosophy/corporate culture is to isolate customers and force really crappy decisions on them. And to top it off, JD Powers is reporting a 20 year low in initial quality. I have had more recall and service calls in 3 months with this 22 than I have had in all 26 year of my 1997 F150 ... and it was a first year model. And as I hear all the new decisions coming forward, like maintaining limited stock at dealerships to force retail custom orders, I doubt Farley's leadership and the future of Ford. This will be my last Ford. #FireFarley

If you are happy with the Ram, I wouldn't blame you for keeping it. Consumer Reports ranks them higher than F150s. People seem to still prefer the Ram's ride quality and interior over the redesigned F150.

 

[AgieF150]

February 01, I bought a "temporary" 22 King Ranch with a 5.5' bed while I wait for the 6.5' bed to be built. Like you, I let my order stand because we need the massaging seats for longer trips. The first communication from Ford was 5 months later, it was scheduled for Aug 15 with Active Motion Removal. I called the dealer to ask if the Priority Code could be lowered since I have seen "Late Availability" for these seats. I have talked to Ford, Chatted with Ford, exchanged messages with a Ford Media Specialist on the site ... blah blah blah. The short of it is that Ford Corporate is being run by a bunch of Morans and they don't give a rat's a$$ about their customers. The use the Marketing Reps as Gatekeepers and keep customers at arms length.

The options that have been presented to me are 1) Refuse this order (and let the dealer have it for their inventory) and order a 2023, or 2) Take this on "as-is." And here is where we have the problem. Just like you said, Ford removed features from 21 - 22 models ... and raised the prices! Even though my 22 was built in 21, it did not include the Trailer Yaw harness, which Parts quoted at $750. If I reorder a 23, I have doubt that it will be built in a reasonable amount of time, or that it will be built as ordered. I am confident that it will be more expensive and it will be a stripped down version of the 22.

In my preview of Packages, Navigation Discount is listed 3 times, my Extended Tow Mirrors and Max Recline Seats are no where to be found. When I ask Ford what does the Navigation Discount mean, or if my built will include the Tow Mirrors, I can't get an answer. Will I still have access to a Satellite Based navigation system native to the truck, or will I be forced to rely on Android Auto and cell service for navigation?

All this to say, at this point, I do not trust Ford. The new philosophy/corporate culture is to isolate customers and force really crappy decisions on them. And to top it off, JD Powers is reporting a 20 year low in initial quality. I have had more recall and service calls in 3 months with this 22 than I have had in all 26 year of my 1997 F150 ... and it was a first year model. And as I hear all the new decisions coming forward, like maintaining limited stock at dealerships to force retail custom orders, I doubt Farley's leadership and the future of Ford. This will be my last Ford. #FireFarley

If you are happy with the Ram, I wouldn't blame you for keeping it. Consumer Reports ranks them higher than F150s. People seem to still prefer the Ram's ride quality and interior over the redesigned F150.

2023 still does not have many features, I have cancelled my 2023 limited.
if no multivountour seats, Ram is a better choice with diesel then F150 in my opinion.

 

[Antimatter22]

Looked at my window sticker today with a 8/10 blend date with the seats removed. No communication from the dealer or Ford either. Still think the $300 credit is a joke. Glad I found a '22 on a lot with the seats and other options. The dealer can keep the truck.

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