Gen IV 5.0 Wet-belt driven oil pump and it's consequences?

[Shane150]

And the video ended by what it looks like to be the least liked or reliable F150!

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[boo radley]

With Ford’s track record, especially with the EcoBoost, statistically the 5.0 will last longer than the alternative. No one can deny it, it’s in the writing.

We’ll see who has an issue first:
1. My wet belt
2. Your cam phasers / Turbos

Ok, since I keep my trucks past 200,000 and have never had to change a timing chain in 40 years.

When its time to replace my turbos, I will post a video of me doing the job myself.

When you get to 200,000 you can post a video of you taking the cab off your truck to access the oil pump.

Basically, Turbos wear out like water pumps, etc. So, there is a problem to be fixed. Timing chains rarely if ever need to be replaced. Therefore, no problem existed until now by changing to a belt.

 

[nvabill]

And the video ended by what it looks like to be the least liked or reliable F150!

Yep, sure did.

 

[PatchManager]

Wouldn't the turbo life span be primarily based on how much and how hard the turbos used? During my normal driving, the turbos are seldom used based on the turbo PSI gauge. I don't know much about turbos except when I was 10, I thought any car that had a turbo must be a super car and should have a huge hood scoop.

 

[Davidwnuc]

When you get to 200,000 you can post a video of you taking the cab off your truck to access the oil pump.

why would the cab need to be removed?

 

[JExpedition07]

why would the cab need to be removed?

It doesn’t need to be, he just spews nonsense over and over. It’s like those people who lie to themselves so much they fabricate their own reality and believe it to be true.

 

[Davidwnuc]

It doesn’t need to be, he just spews nonsense over and over. It’s like those people who lie to themselves so much they fabricate their own reality and believe it to be true.

lol
I know the cab doesnt need to come off. I wanted him to do 3 seconds of research before posting garbage.

 

[boo radley]

why would the cab need to be removed?

True

Just pull the engine out.

 

[roadPilot]

Which motor would all the folks who work there buy? Simple: 5.0

 

[Blown F-150]

The 2.7 Eco has had a wet belt for basically a decade. I haven't heard it come up once as an issue.

 

[wayfarer556]

Wet belts are a horrible idea. They wear out 2-3 times faster than their dry counterparts despite being made of kevlar and oil resistant materials. When they do start to break apart where do all those chunks of belt end up? The oil pickup screen. Ford has has nothing but problems with them since they started using them. Faced class action lawsuits and forced to repeatedly recall hundreds of thousands of vehicles world wide to repair them. Yet, they continue to use them. Why? Because they are cheaper than chains.

If you buy any vehicle with a wet belt be prepared to not only change the it twice as often as is recommended but also have the oil pan removed to inspect and clean the oil pump pickup screen.

Look I know this is an emotional topic for you but I’ve been on these forums since this first truck rolled out. And you know the least amount of issues I see posted is the 2.7 and 5.0, they are solid. Both have wet belts. Those who buy them love them. Ford isn’t perfect but they build great modern truck engines.

 

[Aonarch]

The 2.7 Eco has had a wet belt for basically a decade. I haven't heard it come up once as an issue.

The baby Duramax uses a belt too and with the engine refresh they increased its rated lifespan, I think theirs is 250k now. Don't quote me.

 

[BUCKETCOWBOY]

why would the cab need to be removed?

It doesn't

 

[Buyer2021]

Look I know this is an emotional topic for you but I’ve been on these forums since this first truck rolled out. And you know the least amount of issues I see posted is the 2.7 and 5.0, they are solid. Both have wet belts.

^This^

If the wet belt were actually a failure-prone weak-point the F150 forums would be rife with actual first-hand tales of woe. Heaven knows there's no shortage of high-mileage examples of these engines and F150 forums would be a magnet for first-hand anecdotes of wet-belt failure, if they existed.

In reality those posts documenting actual F150 wet belt failure are extremely rare (I can't recall reading of any first-hand experience) so what we're left with is speculative threads like this one.

Remember, there are literally millions of these things on the road with literally millions of accumulated miles. Sure, stuff happens, one can find an example, or a very few examples, of every kind of possible component failure for every component of every engine made. Those rare outliers are no basis for worries about those components, they're just a reminder that no human endeavor is 100% perfect.

 

[PNWTremor]

^This^

If the wet belt were actually a failure-prone weak-point the F150 forums would be rife with actual first-hand tales of woe. Heaven knows there's no shortage of high-mileage examples of these engines and F150 forums would be a magnet for first-hand anecdotes of wet-belt failure, if they existed.

In reality those posts documenting actual F150 wet belt failure are extremely rare (I can't recall reading of any first-hand experience) so what we're left with is speculative threads like this one.

Remember, there are literally millions of these things on the road with literally millions of accumulated miles. Sure, stuff happens, one can find an example, or a very few examples, of every kind of possible component failure for every component of every engine made. Those rare outliers are no basis for worries about those components, they're just a reminder that no human endeavor is 100% perfect.

Well said. Time will tell.

I know Ford in recent years hasn't held the best track record for reliability, but I trust them. My family and I have owned 6 Fords over the course of 25 years from a Hybrid-4 to a V8. I haven't had any issues with them, not a single one.

Maintenance is key. Preventative maintenance is also important, upgrading/replacing things before they become a failure point. My last F150 got over 310K miles before I sold it (still running from what I gather).

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