Ford Performance tune for 3.5's coming (It's here!)

[FirstOnRaceDay]

For those of you that want more HP like up to 100 … Get a JB4 , its a piggyback tune and doesn’t do anything the Ford dealership can find left over in the computer like a regular tune would leave … All it does is give you more boost /and better throttle response when running higher octane fuel like 91/93 .. But I run 87 and it still rips compared to stock .. Way Cheaper than a tuner , you can pull it off in seconds if you need to … Won’t void your warranty…

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[Timtoolman]

For those of you that want more HP like up to 100 … Get a JB4 , its a piggyback tune and doesn’t do anything the Ford dealership can find left over in the computer like a regular tune would leave … All it does is give you more boost /and better throttle response when running higher octane fuel like 91/93 .. But I run 87 and it still rips compared to stock .. Way Cheaper than a tuner , you can pull it off in seconds if you need to … Won’t void your warranty…

Sure Ford can see even a piggyback tune all they have to look for is increased fuel trims and higher than stock boost in a ECM snap shot , it’s that easy

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

Could be , but the company that makes it says there’s absolutely no way they can tell because it does nothing to flash the computer meaning no trace . Now that’s what they say and if you’re right which I don’t question cus it’s common sense that it would leave some kind of trace … but IMO I dont really care it’s far better than an actual tune cus they leave all kinds of computer trace even when returning to stock prior to taking to dealship … What sucks in Ka , is when you get a smog check nowadays and forget the tune is in , the computer will send the info straight to dmv and they’ll send you a fat ticket in the mail , the smog guy has no control over it like they used to so if your in communist Ca and need a smog don’t forget to remove your tune cus they give you no break .. I hate this state run by the dumb that believes they can stop or change global warming by screwing the people … I’ll never comply to any of their crap unless I can’t sidestep it .. even then I will find a way … and do my will .. cus I’m far from most Americans that are cowards afraid of idiots in government . Side note Ca has lots of far right wingers , It’s just the big city’s rule the state , LA ,SF and Sac screw the people cus they’re dumb ..

 

[Calson]

There is no free lunch. An alteration of the factory tune may provide more power but that means burning more gas with every mile you drive. My 2022 provides 20+ mpg at 70+ mph and I go with the thinking that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[isthatahemi]

There is no free lunch. An alteration of the factory tune may provide more power but that means burning more gas with every mile you drive. My 2022 provides 20+ mpg at 70+ mph and I go with the thinking that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Incorrect, it only “burns more fuel” when you want it.

You clearly don’t understand how any of this works, stop posting falsehoods,

 

[Chili]

50hp and 106tq for the Ranger Raptor 3.0 tune.

I can't wait to see what the f150 gets. 70/70? More??

 

[DBL R]

Sure Ford can see even a piggyback tune all they have to look for is increased fuel trims and higher than stock boost in a ECM snap shot , it’s that easy

That could easily be a boost leak throwing those exact codes.

 

[HammaMan]

50hp and 106tq for the Ranger Raptor 3.0 tune.

I can't wait to see what the f150 gets. 70/70? More??

Given the issues with the 10r80, I don't expect to see any tunes for F150s outside of maybe a 5.0 or 2.7.

 

[Samson16]

So the only EcoBoost vehicle they don't have a performance tune for, is their best selling F-150. Ha.

Hoping for 50hp/50tq. And more aggressive shifting and throttle in the normal mode, but not as aggressive as sport.

I wanted 47hp/200tq so I bought it straight from Ford. Warranty even.

 

[Polo08816]

I wanted 47hp/200tq so I bought it straight from Ford. Warranty even.

Here's an interesting tidbit about that:

https://fordauthority.com/2024/08/ford-raptor-performance-tune-may-impact-powertrain-warranty/

As Ford Truck Enthusiasts has discovered, those that purchase this Ford Raptor performance calibration could essentially be reducing the duration of their factory powertrain warranty, which starts out at five years and 60,000 miles. This is because if the automaker determines that damage to the engine has occurred as a result of the calibration – and the vehicle has already passed the three-year, 36,000-mile mark – it won’t be covered under that warranty.

Of course, if damage does occur within the five-year, 60k-mile period that isn’t related to the calibration, then it will be covered under warranty, but we must also consider one other tiny detail – the start date of the Ford Performance powertrain warranty is the vehicle’s original “in-service” date, or the day the vehicle was purchased – not the day the tune is installed, which means that the proverbial clock is already ticking. As is usually the case, the calibration must also be installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician for warranty coverage to apply as well.

Who would have thought.... tunes generally decrease reliability/durability - OEM or not. If it was so easy to increase power output with no ill-effects while maintain the same warranty, the OEM would have already done so.

In fact, what you'll often see is an OEM actually de-rate an engine for a Medium Duty truck compared to a Light Duty truck because the expectation is that the powertrain will be under greater load for a longer duration.

 

[Chili]

I wanted 47hp/200tq so I bought it straight from Ford. Warranty even.

It's too bad it only added 30hp and 70tq and took 500lbs to do it though.

This should be more power than that, with no addition weight.

 

[Timtoolman]

That could easily be a boost leak throwing those exact codes.

It would also throw a under boost trouble code then if that was the case

 

[themcmercslr]

Is Mike Levine blowing smoke about an F150 Raptor tune? The gen 3 Raptor seems to make more power than gen 2 so I'd be surprised to see them ask even more power out of the 3.5. But competing with the RHO is a motivating factor.

If they leave the standard output 3.5 behind with this tune I wouldn't be surprised. A 440HP tune from the expedition stealth is something I might pay for. I'm not even sure of the mechanical differences between gen 3 Raptor and standard output. IIRC the gen 2 had different pistons with lower CR and different exhaust manifolds. The gen 3 has the same CR as the standard output now, and I could never find a breakdown of the differences last time I searched.

 

[Chili]

I can't imagine it would be Raptor only. If they can go to 455 /536 on a 10r60 I want to see more on a 10r80. F150 (non raptor) doesn't weigh more than a Ranger Raptor.

Oddly the FP Raptor tunes are hotter than the Explorer STs

Ford doesn't like to be outdone and I think some of this is due to the 3.0 Stellantis engine. They won't get all of the HP but will shoot way past even the HO on torque. 470/570 shouldn't be an issue.

 

[DBL R]

It would also throw a under boost trouble code then if that was the case

I imagine these systems work by telling the ecu it’s seeing less boost than it actually is, causing the actuator to stay closed rather than bleeding off additional psi. Without touching the stock timing or fuel tables the ecu responds to the difference of afr by adding fuel back in. The ford system very well may store a soft code for underboost but it doesn’t appear to throw a cel. Looking into the logs techs will most likely be able to see higher fueling tables, and potentially that underboost code, but once again, a boost leak can also produce all the above data. Either way it’s all pay to play. People using these systems or tuning know the risks.

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