Add Heating Steering Wheel to 24' XLT

[adyaro77]

Okay so I have read through many other posts regarding this topic. The 23' Lariat I traded in would have only needed the clock spring, HVAC control, and programming.

The reason I am posting this thread is because I have a 24' XLT and I currently have the Lariat leather heated steering wheel. I purchased this because I wanted the same steering wheel that was on my 23'...It being heated was just a bonus. This made me think, could I add a heated steering wheel.

When I purchased the steering wheel the dealership said "hey we have the clock spring that you would need"

Now here's the question. Because there is so much in common with the XLT and Lariat is there any way that a 24' XLT 302A truck would already have the wiring?

I know in previous versions they were programmed through forescan and had an on-screen button. As it being an XLT it does not have cooled seats. I have not seen an HVAC control with just heated seats and a heated steering wheel button.

This made me wonder if it's even possible. I know there are wiring harnesses for the 18' to 20' to add the heated steering wheel.

Is there anybody that maybe has a wiring schematic? Any information related to this. When I swap out the steering wheel and clock spring I know at that time I'll be able to see the wiring better.

Any specific wiring information would be fantastic. I understand it being a 24' complicates things. So far there's a lot of similarities between 21'-23' and 24's

Thanks in advance.

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[2.7tugger]

The only thing that might be a concern is if forscan will work with a 2024. Might be worth plugging in and checking it out. I have successfully added a heated wheel to my 2022 XLT 302a. I used the software button and did not replace my hvac controls.

 

[2.7tugger]

O and you can take a picture from under the wheel to see if you have the wiring harness without doing any plastic removal. If the harness is not present it's not hard to make a harness or buy 1 off a guy on ebay.

 

[adyaro77]

Well unfortunately after 2 weeks of research and what I thought would end up a success has led to a dead end. I was extremely fortunate for someone I know to ask a friend of his to come to my house that knows forscan extremely well. Not only is he proficient in forscan/ fdr, but diagrams and wiring as well. He spent years at a dealership and was a buddy of mine's co-worker at Ford. Needless to say when he showed up with his two laptops with two separate programs and started working right away I felt extremely confident that this gentleman knew what he was doing...lmao.

We used two different part numbers for the SCCM because again it's a 24' and cross referencing for the heated steering wheel is next to impossible (the feature is not offered). He could not get the as build data to upload. We were on Ford's website and cross-referenced all the values. There was really no reason for it not to work. We noticed as soon as we would upload the as built it would stop the procedure, and the next time would go to 50% and stop the procedure. We were slowly getting more options to work for example....buttons on the steering wheel or the windshield wipers. The issue really seemed to be the steering wheel controls which he knew how to program and that didn't work either. The SCCM modules we used are compatible with the lariat heated steering wheel. Therefore there had to be another issue...

As we would get closer to programming the SCCM we started to get DTC's. The big one that started was a charging system problem. He looked into that and couldn't figure out where it was coming from and why it was doing it. He cleared it and it went away but then another DTC would pop up.

He spent well over two hours sitting inside my truck with a laptop going through every module trying to figure out why it would not accept the as build data. I mean he said there was obvious reasons, but looking at the values and the similar part numbers it should have worked. Exactly why I continued on with this as a Guinea pig.

We came to the conclusion that at this time it's not possible. I was fortunate for Fairway Ford to sell me these 2 SCCM modules for under $100 each and @JScaro harness that needed to be modified because the heating steering wheel does not come out of the BCM in the 24' Shout out to Kevin at Fairway Ford that help cross referencing a lot of connectors along with @JScaro.

As soon as we installed the factory OEM SCCM everything is operating as it should and all DTC's have cleared. I did an extremely professional job installing all the wiring with the cloth harness tape and so on so....maybe a couple years from now this will get figured out and it will be extremely easy to do.

Edit: I wanted to add we think the only way this is possible is by getting the clock wheel/SCCM with the rain wiping sensors and then adding that feature. There's a possibility that a couple other modules would need to be added. On the 21 to 23s the BCM was combined with the fuse box, but now it's not. He has some theories, but without spending hundreds of dollars more at this point it's just hearsay.

 

[BMCGC]

Sounds like I am buying a pair of heated gloves...

 

[adyaro77]

Sounds like I am buying a pair of heated gloves...

?Yeah.... I guess it bothers me the most because my 2019 XLT had a heated steering wheel. But then again my 19' didn't have half the technology that my 24' XLT 302A has so.....

 

[nvabill]

Okay so I have read through many other posts regarding this topic. The 23' Lariat I traded in would have only needed the clock spring, HVAC control, and programming.

The reason I am posting this thread is because I have a 24' XLT and I currently have the Lariat leather heated steering wheel. I purchased this because I wanted the same steering wheel that was on my 23'...It being heated was just a bonus. This made me think, could I add a heated steering wheel.

When I purchased the steering wheel the dealership said "hey we have the clock spring that you would need"

Now here's the question. Because there is so much in common with the XLT and Lariat is there any way that a 24' XLT 302A truck would already have the wiring?

I know in previous versions they were programmed through forescan and had an on-screen button. As it being an XLT it does not have cooled seats. I have not seen an HVAC control with just heated seats and a heated steering wheel button.

This made me wonder if it's even possible. I know there are wiring harnesses for the 18' to 20' to add the heated steering wheel.

Is there anybody that maybe has a wiring schematic? Any information related to this. When I swap out the steering wheel and clock spring I know at that time I'll be able to see the wiring better.

Any specific wiring information would be fantastic. I understand it being a 24' complicates things. So far there's a lot of similarities between 21'-23' and 24's

Thanks in advance.

Do you have the part number for the leather heated steering wheel, thanks?

 

[adyaro77]

Do you have the part number for the leather heated steering wheel, thanks?

 

[nvabill]

Thank you!

 

[CarbonMark]

I also have a 2024 truck I’d like to get the heated steering wheel working on.

@adyaro77 Do you know the part number for the two SCCM components you tried to get working?

Can you also elaborate how you supplied +12V to the SCCM? I know you mentioned using @JScaro harness. Did you get switched power from the BCM like the ‘21-23 trucks do? If so, what pin?
I’m aware that the Body Control Module is different on the 2024 trucks we have…

Any additional details you can provide about your attempt would be appreciated! With enough of the 2024 trucks in circulation, and winter temps coming, Im hopeful we can get this figured out.

 

[adyaro77]

I also have a 2024 truck I’d like to get the heated steering wheel working on.

@adyaro77 Do you know the part number for the two SCCM components you tried to get working?

Can you also elaborate how you supplied +12V to the SCCM? I know you mentioned using @JScaro harness. Did you get switched power from the BCM like the ‘21-23 trucks do? If so, what pin?
I’m aware that the Body Control Module is different on the 2024 trucks we have…

Any additional details you can provide about your attempt would be appreciated! With enough of the 2024 trucks in circulation, and winter temps coming, Im hopeful we can get this figured out.

Unfortunately it was a waste of time and money. We installed the lariat SCCM and heated steering wheel. I still have the steering wheel in the truck. With professional help we were unable to upload my as-builts to the new SCCM. I hired an individual that knows fdsr and forscan. What is interesting is the fuse is installed for the heated steering wheel. We ran a wire from the fuse box. Furthermore a wire is already running from the fuse box to a splice under the center console. There it dead ends. I had so much time and money invested in this because I was convinced I could get it to work with professional help. I ended up installing the OEM SCCM. The dealership let me return the lariat sccm. Furthermore, I installed 24 tow mirrors on my truck and we never could get the cameras to work right. Again, using both fdsr and forscan. I ended up installing the standard mirrors and they rebooted my IPMA.. I believe that is the module.

I was going between the purchasing dealership and then another dealership that does a lot of modifications. I'll just add they feel ford doesn't want us modifying these vehicles anymore. Ford would not give the dealership any support with the tow mirrors. Telling the service manager that I need to wait for for accessories to make special mirrors. You take this information as you will.

 

[Curly]

Maybe a 2024 f150 Raptor or King Ranch as built to compare to yours.
LivnItUp has posted forscan lists for 21-23 F150's, maybe he will help us.

 

[Livnitup]

@adyaro77 how were you addressing the HSW button? did you also install a different hvac or were you trying to activate the hsw through sync with the soft button on climate bar?

 

[adyaro77]

@adyaro77 how were you addressing the HSW button? did you also install a different hvac or were you trying to activate the hsw through sync with the soft button on climate bar?

We were going to use the soft button. But like I said we never got that far because we couldn't find an SCCM that the truck wouldn't reject. We had a hell of an issue with the modules.

Hell I can't even get the dealership to figure out how to fix the stitching on my 360 overview. I know some other guys are trying to figure out power mirrors on the XLT. The dealership claims it's impossible. When I tried I had all the parts that you would need for it to work. I was just fortunate I was able to return some of it and sell other parts of it.

 

[Livnitup]

Also, when you tried to enable hsw in your factory sccm here did FORScan refuse to write it?
724-01-01 xxxx 8xxx -- and if so, were you using the newest version of FORScan? - older versions would have issues with 24 sccm

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